That was some terrible basketball  - where was the ball movement? working for a good shot? Defense?

We went out there and just started jacking 3s - and if we are going to do then we'd better make a good %, or we will not be very good this year.

Not following #6.  I doubt UGA drops out of top 4 with a loss in SECCG.  ICBW.

well, we dropped out of top 4 after losing to UGA...

1 - UT wins out, USC loses, Michigan loses, TCU loses

UGA
Ohio state
Tennessee
Michigan

2 - UT wins out, USC loses, Ohio state loses, TCU loses

UGA
Michigan
Tennessee
Ohio state

3 - UT wins out, USC wins, Michigan wins, TCU loses

UGA
Michigan
Tennessee
USC

4 - UT wins out, USC wins, Ohio state wins, TCU loses

UGA
Ohio state
Tennessee
USC

5 - UT wins out, USC wins, Ohio State wins, TCU wins

UGA
Ohio state
TCU
Tennessee

6 - UT wins out, LSU wins out, Ohio State wins, TCU wins,, USC loses

Ohio State
TCU
Tennessee
LSU

7 - UT wins out, TCU wins, USC wins, Michigan wins

UGA
Michigan
TCU
Tenn or USC?

To me there is very little chance UT doesn't make the playoff, with the only chance being if USC, TCU, and Michigan  win. That last space would go to USC or UT then, and it would be dicey. We also do not want LSU taking a spot.

So we need to root for UGA to win out, TCU to lose to someone, and Ohio state to beat Michigan IMO.

 

Milton's arm strength adds another dimension if he is accurate!

He can be a first rounder if he shows accuracy and the general feel for the game Hooker has

108 yards against Vandy

He is not good, highly overrated. He will be picked high in the NFL draft though, because of his size and arm strength

Going to be a really good team

Badass

They really don't want to get in a shootout, but we can force them to. They are not as good as last year and do not have the weapons to do it.

UK best scenario- take the opening kickoff and go on an 8 min drive. Score. Then hope we go 3 and out.

 

agree. We should have won 45-28

Because they knew they were not going to stop us all day. 6 fourth downs, five of them converted. We stop even one more, the game isn't as close.

Fant had a really bad game overall, but he did block well.

...most of us looked at the schedule and spotted 5 likely wins, 2 likely losses, and 5 tossup games.

We've now won the first two of those tossups. Another (USC) doesn't really look like a tossup anymore, and can probably be moved into the "likely win" column.

So is 8-4 now our worst case scenario?

Yeah I think 8-4 is worst case. I think we are going 10-2. We will beat UK at home

That was as you say beautiful to see...we only stopped ourselves on offense today, they never did

Having said that, the gaytor D is really bad.  Not sure LSU is that bad, I'll have to dig into them a bit. 

Probably not that bad, but LSU starting QB may be hurt

If so, that'll tie our highest ranking in 2016. If we can get higher than that, it'll be our highest ranking since 2006, when we were as high as No. 7 going into the Alabama game.

I think we will jump Ok state and UK to # 7. UK looked pretty meh today

Good:

Herndon Hooker. Reminds me of Tony Robinson everytime he plays - so many huge throws. His best game as a Vol
O Line: Overall good, especially Darnell Wright.
Receivers: Bru, Keyton, Hyatt pretty much did what they wanted. Keyton's spectacular laying out for the catch was an all time top 5 Vol catch
Run game: Vols ran for around 200 yards.
DL. Especially Thomas, who is turning into a beast.
Kick return: Holiday had 2 really nice KO returns

Bad:
Linebackers. Decent against the run, but terrible vs the pass.
Penalties
Fant. Bad game for him, especially early with the false start and the fumble
Late game play calling. Got conservative up 38-21 and let UF back in the game.

Ugly:
Entire secondary. possibly one of the worst games I have seen our secondary play. Not sure what the solution is
Onsides kick coverage on the second kick. What was that?

LSU is terrible - bad QB play. We all know what that does to a team first hand

Bama defense is excellent, but they don't have that go to receiver yet. They also took a step back in the run game. I think the offense will be little easier to defend, but Bama's defense keeps them in all their games

UK is better - tougher defense, but they're banged up on offense. That will be a game.

UGA I think is our only certain loss.

I think 9-3 to 10-2 is realistic

To get to where we want to go we have got to get a running game....right now it's just not good. IMO, with our types of back that aren't good creating their own lanes we have to create them up front with wider splits....We are in there toe to toe and trying to run between the tackles/ends and it's not working...We don't have a Derrick Henry back there that's going to punish folks...

Also Hooker might need to get back further....He stands very close to the LOS and it has to be harder to see the field. He needs to create more time a lot. He's not great at throwing on the run....more time would help. Our offense surprised and even shocked a lot of folks last season....not going to be the case this year against good defenses. It's why our running game has to be a lot better....JMO

Agree on run game. Small seems to me to be slow, but he runs with power. Wright has explosion but fumbles. I think we need to see more of Sampson and JW

Auburn almost lost to San Jose State also. Isn't it fun that it isn't us for a change?   

I am going to quibble on one though...I don't agree AT ALL that UF "should" have beaten UK.  They were favored but the Kats are no. 20 in the country and a lot better than they used to be.  I wouldn't call that a huge upset at all. I am doing this to take a shot at Florida, which I am always happy to do, but actually it's true.   

Fair point on UK. But as an UT fan FL is always more of a threat

Looks like Vegas knew what's up

ND, FL, aTm, Nebraska, Wisconsin -  all lost at home to teams they should have beaten.

Hyatt had like 14 catches???

Hyatt did well with the outs, would like to see him more on slants too

Bru needs more touches.

The Vols need to start putting teams away when they have the chance. Second half, numerous times we had that shot but blew it with stupid penalties and dropping passes . That killer instinct..... getting that 4th down play.....etc

Some things I liked
- DL is getting better, they really knocked around the PITT OL and QB in first half
- Hadden keeps playing well, need more of him
- FG kicking

Some things that need to be corrected
- Punting, special teams - ugly
- Run game was weak. Wright has more explosion but you can't fumble. Would have liked to see Sampson
- Hooker needs to look for more guys than Tilman. Need to see more thrown to Bru

That's your prerogative, but you are just assuming obviously. This I'll take what you say with a huge grain of salt.

Take it with salt, sugar, or any other seasoning of your choice.

He is out again this week. Not injured. Read the tea leaves.

well we won't score 59.

They will slow us down some....pretty good D.

I think Vols 41-31