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1  Sports / VTTW Message Board / Re: The UNC womens coach resigned after 33 years. I guess she made some on: April 19, 2019, 08:35:18 EDT
Like I said, the players today are soft. Back when I played basketball we just took it on ourselves to play through certain injuries.

Certain injuries, sure.  But some injuries are serious and the medical staff should decide, not the coach.  A player could get really messed up physically playing hurt.

Also, she won the NCAA Championship.  In 1994. She had been there 33 years. I ssupect the university just wanted some new blood is a part of it.
2  Sports / VTTW Message Board / Re: The UNC womens coach resigned after 33 years. I guess she made some on: April 19, 2019, 05:03:11 EDT
I have read exactly elsewhere what the remarks were, and they were relatively mild, assuming I got the whole truth.  She apparently said that if the team did not get it's act together they were going to 'get hung' by the opposition, and that was interpreted as reference to lynching.

If that's all there was to it, I'd be rolling my eyes also.  But the IMO more serious allegations that she encouraged players to play through injuries are probably what got her.  That's a pretty bad thing to do.
3  Sports / VTTW Message Board / Re: Rick Barnes quote... on: April 18, 2019, 12:26:59 EDT
  That was the most anticlimactic 31-6 record possible. If you told me the Vols would end up 31-6 and not have anything significant to show for I would have thought you were crazy.

Nah.  Going out in the first round would literally have been "the most anticlimatic possible". 

And while it's disappointing we didn't go farther, making it to the Sweet 16 is an accomplishment.
4  Sports / VTTW Message Board / Re: Rick Barnes quote... on: April 17, 2019, 07:36:17 EDT
People forget it's a business. Rick Barnes isn't a Vol, he is a coach brought in to coach the basketball team, and he has proven to do a really good job, so others are interested. It's no different that any other profession, and fans shouldn't get hurt feelings.



Exactly.  And as someone has posted somewhere below, when is the last time Tennessee had a coach anyone wanted?  It's pretty refreshing actually.  Yes he could have been more diplomatic, but it really doesn't bother me, I think he's just being honest.
5  Sports / VTTW Message Board / Re: Rick Barnes quote... on: April 16, 2019, 08:03:42 EDT
Hee hee, I guess he's being a bit too honest.  At the same time, it's interesting to know how it really went down.  Sports figures keep everything close to the vest these days.   For instance, neither the AD nor the coach at LSU has publically answered any questions about the mess they are in. I think a bit of transparency is refreshing, and at the end of the day, it doesn't matter because Barnes is at UT.
6  Sports / VTTW Message Board / Re: In the aftermath of Tiger's win, minutes before the GoT premiere... on: April 15, 2019, 07:14:12 EDT
Also, two of his hot recruits are going pro including the player mentioned in the taped conversation (how could he not?).  I suspect that will hurt them next year. 
7  Sports / VTTW Message Board / Re: Did they really have over 50,000 for the spring game?.... on: April 15, 2019, 07:12:27 EDT
We did beat a pretty good Auburn team.   I am hoping that what happened is like what happened with Saban in his first year at bammer.  They started 6-0 but finished 0-6.  Bammer fans claimed it was rotten players from the Shula era and at the time, I thought they were just in denial.  But Saban cleaned house and sent a lot of upperclassmen packing and bammer was undefeated in the regular season the next year. I don't expect a turnaround like that, but I hope the poor showing against vandy and mizzou at the end of the season was a hangover from Jones.  We will not of course go undefeated in the regular season - Saban had a lot more talent to work with in 2008 - but maybe we beat mizzou and vandy.
8  Sports / VTTW Message Board / Re: In the aftermath of Tiger's win, minutes before the GoT premiere... on: April 15, 2019, 07:07:35 EDT
Holy shizzle.  L$U sinks to a new low.
9  Sports / VTTW Message Board / Re: Did they really have over 50,000 for the spring game?.... on: April 15, 2019, 03:12:39 EDT
I thought it looked like  a decent crowd on TV
10  Sports / VTTW Message Board / Re: Heeeeere comes Tiger.* on: April 15, 2019, 01:34:10 EDT
It was a great tournament, and I'm not that keen on watching golf but I enjoyed it.  And yes, it's big news that Tiger finally won another major.  But my gosh, Jim Nance virtually wet himself several times over.   I mean, it wasn't THAT big of a deal.  To hear him talk we had just witnessed the second coming of Christ.   
11  Sports / VTTW Message Board / Re: Did they really have over 50,000 for the spring game?.... on: April 15, 2019, 01:23:07 EDT
I think he tried to emulate Saban last year.   Saban always gets on the fans about attendance, and has done so about the spring game.   I think Pruitt has gotten over that and as much as he may have learned from Saban, he will have to be his own man.
12  Sports / VTTW Message Board / Re: BaseVols beat #2 Georgia tonight.*** on: April 12, 2019, 07:13:37 EDT
 
13  Sports / VTTW Message Board / Re: Just looked at the football schedule on: April 12, 2019, 12:16:03 EDT
FWIW, a couple weeks ago the Finebaum show did an over/under on wins for all the SEC teams. Ours was 7, which sounds reasonable to me.
14  Sports / VTTW Message Board / Re: It's official, Holly-Jolly on: April 10, 2019, 12:19:28 EDT
I don't see how she could do worse than Holly the last couple of seasons.  I do expect immediate improvement.  I don't expect a Final Four in her first season, but we Sweet 16 should be the minimum expectation.
15  Sports / VTTW Message Board / Re: It's official, Holly-Jolly on: April 10, 2019, 12:17:14 EDT
Salary is relatively low compared to other top programs, but I'll count that as a positive. 
16  Sports / VTTW Message Board / Re: Barnes is a good coach. Is he good enough a coach to have the Vols consistently on: April 09, 2019, 10:36:05 EDT
With the recent salary increase, we should make the tourney every year with a decent chance to advance and also challenge for the SECC, both regular season and tourney.  Some years will be better than others.
17  Sports / VTTW Message Board / Re: First of all, I didn't care who won. on: April 09, 2019, 07:32:56 EDT
I was rooting for Texas Tech, but not in a big way.  Virginia knocked out my second team Purdue, plays an ugly ass game, is from the ACC and Kyle Guy looks like he's 12.  All good reasons to root against them.  Texas Tech, not much reason to root for them other than the coach credits Bobby Knight with his success.  But yeah, I didn't really care.

The announcers were saying it was the greatest turnaround in NCAA history.  I don't really agree.  Virginia was embarrassed by UMBC last year, but they were a no. 1 seed two years running.   I'd be more impressed by a team that had a losing record the previous season winning it all, that would be a bigger turnaround.

Vols made it twice on "one shining moment", which was pretty cool.  Of course, Zion Williamson was featured 6 times.  That must be some kind of record for a team going out in the Elite 8.   
18  Sports / VTTW Message Board / Re: Barnes is staying. All over Twitter now.* on: April 09, 2019, 04:38:28 EDT
Statement from Phillip Fulmer


Im grateful to Rick and Candy, and Im also grateful to our university leadership, which stepped up to show Rick how much he is valued and appreciated. Our commitment to basketball has never been stronger, and were all excited for the future as we move forward.

That would seem to imply a raise for Barnes and/or considerations for his staff. I guess we will find out before too long.
19  Sports / VTTW Message Board / Re: Barnes is staying. All over Twitter now.* on: April 09, 2019, 04:24:54 EDT
Not sure how I feel. 

He better win, now.

I'm okay with it.  To be offered $5 million + by UCLA is I am sure very flattering, and he might have been using it for leverage also. 

At the end of the day, Barnes strikes me as one of the more honest types in men's college basketball, which is saying a lot.
20  Sports / VTTW Message Board / Re: Looks like Kellie Jolly-Harper is the new LVs coach? on: April 09, 2019, 04:22:27 EDT
UT wasn't going to hire the big dog coaches in the business. IMO. They have their own empires....own rabid fan bases.....and their own million dollar contracts. Maybe 10 years ago they could have hired those types but there are several programs out there right now that are what the LV program use to be.

I wish KJH the best of luck if in fact she is the hire and so far the reception hasn't been very positive on her hiring. Holly was fired with a .720 winning % and hiring a coach with a .578%.

That's an impressive winning percentage for Holly.  But we all know she was headed in the wrong direction.  She is the Bill Battle of the Lady Vols.  Battle started out 10-1 with a Sugar Bowl win, but it was all down hill from there.  Same with Holly.

As for hiring a big name, it seems we could have tried a bit harder.  Some ladies coaches make an amazing amount these days, and with us paying a lot for football and likely paying more for men's basketball, maybe the finances have tightened up a bit. I am still disappointed not to make more of an attempt to get an outsider with a proven record though.

It's not official.  If it is Kellie, I will welcome her and give her a chance.  She did do well in two of three coaching jobs, and with this being her fourth job, that's a ton of coaching experience.
21  Sports / VTTW Message Board / Our next Lady's coach? on: April 09, 2019, 12:22:46 EDT
https://www.knoxnews.com/story/sports/college/university-of-tennessee/womens-basketball/2019/04/08/tyler-summitt-coaching-again-wife-named-high-school-coach-ohio/3398763002/?utm_source=TN-TopStories

Just kidding....
22  Sports / VTTW Message Board / Per ESPN, Barnes will decide in the next 24 hours on: April 09, 2019, 12:20:33 EDT


http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26472062/barnes-deciding-ucla-vols

23  Sports / VTTW Message Board / Re: Barnes to UCLA? on: April 08, 2019, 11:52:03 EDT
Remember that Barnes was essentially paying money out of his own pocket to supplement his assistants' pay prior to the start of this season. I don't think it's a stretch to think that he's unhappy with the support for basketball...

Not much of a stretch, but hardly proven.  I doubt Barnes is complaining about his own salary, which is more than adequate even given his success IMO. 

But if he can leverage UCLA to get more for his assistants, I am all for it.
24  Sports / VTTW Message Board / Re: Barnes to UCLA? on: April 08, 2019, 11:50:43 EDT
Clay Travis tweeting that UCLA may have gotten two SEC basketball coaches lifetime contracts. 

Nah.  It's not a bad attempt at humor, but I can't see us going there.
25  Sports / VTTW Message Board / Re: Barnes to UCLA? on: April 08, 2019, 11:50:13 EDT
I don't either, when you factor in cost of living out in Cali... What they are supposedly offering him isn't really much of a raise.

This whole thing is just so odd.

It's all relative though.  The cost of living might be double in the LA area  (108% more, close to a double per this website:  https://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/knoxville-tn/los-angeles-ca/3000000), but against a multi-million dollar contract that's noise if the coach has reasonable tastes in housing.  If Barnes is currently living in a 500K house in the Knoxville area (just a WAG) he doesn't have to get as big a house in LA.  His cost may double, even for a smaller house, but I don't think it's one to one.  Cost of living has a fixed upper limit.  I mean, food and gas and utilities, no matter how much they increase, will be a small proportion of a multi-million dollar contract.  The only gotcha is the house, but Barnes and wife could always settle for a smaller house.
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