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Author Topic: Vols land Mississippi receiver. He is a 3*. Just how much of a difference in  (Read 2911 times)
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« on: July 22, 2016, 11:42:08 EDT »

talent is there between a 3* and a 5*. And if we offer a 3* and later a 5* wants to join the Vols do we rescind the offer to the 3*. Seems like the 5* athletes the Vols land are few and far between lately.
[urlhttp://www.teamspeedkills.com/2016/7/21/12254206/tennessee-volunteers-football-recruiting-2017-wide-receiver-jordan-murphy-commits][/url]
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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2016, 11:51:35 EDT »

talent is there between a 3* and a 5*. And if we offer a 3* and later a 5* wants to join the Vols do we rescind the offer to the 3*. Seems like the 5* athletes the Vols land are few and far between lately.
[urlhttp://www.teamspeedkills.com/2016/7/21/12254206/tennessee-volunteers-football-recruiting-2017-wide-receiver-jordan-murphy-commits][/url]
First, he is a 4* on Rivals (see my post last night). 
As to your question, in reality who really knows.  I would note the VOLS currently have a former 5* receiver on the team.  I do not star gaze.  The relative value of any recruit, no matter the service star ratings, is in his ability to learn, to fit in and develop within the program.  I have no empirical data but I suspect that the number of 3* that perform as a 5* and the number of 5* that perform as a 3* are not that much different
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2016, 12:12:30 EDT »

The problem with rating services is: rating services.  Witness how many prospects suddenly jump by one or even two stars once they are offered by major players in power conferences.  Guess what, the prospect didn't suddenly get better, the rating services just happened to recognize that the college coaches and evaluators just may know a thing or two.  Butch has done OK recruiting, I trust him.  Wow, long time since I have been able to say that about a UT coach.


 
First, he is a 4* on Rivals (see my post last night). 
As to your question, in reality who really knows.  I would note the VOLS currently have a former 5* receiver on the team.  I do not star gaze.  The relative value of any recruit, no matter the service star ratings, is in his ability to learn, to fit in and develop within the program.  I have no empirical data but I suspect that the number of 3* that perform as a 5* and the number of 5* that perform as a 3* are not that much different
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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2016, 01:04:54 EDT »

Correct.....you can bet your backside that some of our high end 3 stars would be ranked 4 stars within 24 hours if they had committed to Bama, OSU etc...Most of these so called rankers would use a jockstrap as a dust mask if you gave them one and told them to put it on.

WRs are a hard group to rank because so many are just better athletes than what defensive backs they go against in high school.
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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2016, 11:27:28 EDT »

The reality in this day and time is that every player is "recruited over" no matter if he is a no star or a 50 star.  There are just way too many variables in play.  The negative implications of pulling an offer are pretty much gone now because every school does it just about every year.  

Football recruiting has become every bit as dirty as has been college basketball recruiting since the World Wide Weses and AAU/shoe money hit the scene about 25 years ago.  They are all dirty.  Every one of them.  

But of course, most kids today don't know what the word commitment means.  The WR from, I think, Florida who recruited to us this past week said in his "announcement" that his recruitment would remain open to every school.  That's why you continue to recruit over kids.  Nobody is committed until they sign. 
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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2016, 01:24:35 EDT »

And to show how rankings are so subjected look at offensive lineman Trey Smith who is at the top instate in the state of Tennessee. I found this today on a recruiting site. Talk about all over the map.

"Trey Smith #20 on scout, #1 on ESPN, #52 on 247, its a crap shoot."
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« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2016, 03:47:02 EDT »

I went star gazing and got mooned!
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