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« on: January 17, 2017, 05:06:35 EST » |
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They are saying that Fulmer is almost a done deal for AD
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2017, 05:37:47 EST » |
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Unbelievable if true.....
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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2017, 05:47:55 EST » |
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Wow.
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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2017, 01:10:40 EST » |
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I'll keep an open mind. Maybe PF will surprise me and do a great job. But I don't like this. Not one bit.  |
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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2017, 02:10:17 EST » |
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You have to be joking.
This has to be joke, right?
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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2017, 02:36:30 EST » |
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I'll keep an open mind. Maybe PF will surprise me and do a great job. But I don't like this. Not one bit. I have absolutely ZERO faith that Fulmer will do an adequate job. This is an awful move. Unbelievable. |
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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2017, 02:46:03 EST » |
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I have absolutely ZERO faith that Fulmer will do an adequate job. This is an awful move. Unbelievable.
I think that the problems up on the hill are getting exposed. There are far too many decisions being made that are for the betterment of person making the decision, not the University. This is just unfathomable. |
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2017, 03:26:51 EST » |
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The powers that be have lost their fizzleing minds. |
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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2017, 04:58:30 EST » |
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Well, DB was my first choice... But honestly it could be worse, imo.  |
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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2017, 05:01:31 EST » |
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Well, DB was my first choice... But honestly it could be worse, imo. I'm not sure, to be honest. I mean, it's true that Fulmer is a great ambassador for the program and he loves and is loyal to Tennessee...but the same could be said for a lot of us, and we certainly don't have the qualifications to be AD. My biggest hangup is this: Go back to the end of the Fulmer regime, and what (besides discipline) did we all decide was his biggest weakness, the one thing that led to his downfall? Hiring and firing coaches. I think it's going to be a disaster. I will be happy if I'm wrong, but I'm not hopeful. |
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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2017, 05:09:15 EST » |
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I think it's going to be a disaster. I will be happy if I'm wrong, but I'm not hopeful.
Alls I can say is, I hope you're wrong, too.  |
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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2017, 05:17:14 EST » |
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What I hear is that Fulmer is a viable candidate and not the leading candidate. I think the Alumni groups and big money are behind all the press because that provides cover for Davenport to chose the Cincinnati AD. Fulmer failed as a coach because he hired horrible assistants and would not fire them. Being loyal to your school is admirable. Being qualified and competent to do the job is better. Let Fulmer be the good will and fund-raising ambassador if need be, but UT does not owe him another penny.
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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2017, 05:23:23 EST » |
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What drives me nuts are the folks even mentioning him for the AD position in the first place. I like Fulmer, but he is NOT AD material....which I think few can argue he is. My question is: Why? What good does it do the University to put him in a position where he will surely blunder? It's just stupid homerism.
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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2017, 05:42:25 EST » |
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I might be wrong but he was fired because he had lost control over the one program he was in charge of.....UT paid him 6 million to go away. I'm not sure that even as dysfunctional as UT is they'd hire Fulmer to be in charge of the whole UT athletic department. Best I remember when we were in the hiring process before hiring Hart this same Fulmer stuff was out there too.
You fire someone then hire them back? Talk about being a laughing stock.
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« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2017, 06:05:00 EST » |
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Make Fulmer the Senior Special Liaison to the President, or whatever, but don't pay him a nickel, and don't let him make decisions.
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"The more the words, the less the meaning, and how does that profit anyone?" - Ecclesiastes 6:11
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« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2017, 11:03:55 EST » |
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Other than RS, who actually was fired eventually, we ho did Fulmer hold on to that long?
Although not perfect, Chiefs D was usu ally pretty dam good. Dan Brooks was a hell of a DL coach, and so forth.
Having said that, I would question Fulmer being AD, but who knows, it might wotlrk out. He at least knows football. The last former D1 coach we had was Dickey and he was one of our best ADs ever, at least for football.
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« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2017, 11:14:47 EST » |
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Good question about holding on to hires too long Bandit. My take is Sanders was obviously a disaster, but one not mitigated by the Clawfense. I also question Fulmer's OL hires outside of Mike Barry, who did a great job from 1998-01, but then was apparently shown the door.
Fulmer did make many quality hires on defense with Caldwell, Chavis, and Brooks.
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« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2017, 11:21:05 EST » |
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Good question about holding on to hires too long Bandit. My take is Sanders was obviously a disaster, but one not mitigated by the Clawfense. I also question Fulmer's OL hires outside of Mike Barry, who did a great job from 1998-01, but then was apparently shown the door.
Fulmer did make many quality hires on defense with Caldwell, Chavis, and Brooks.
Funny that Clawson has been very successful everywhere he has been, with the exception of the one year he worked with Fulmer. Clawson was never given the go aheady to implement his offense. Fulmer had a big thumb on top of him. We never saw what Clawson's offense actually looked like. To blame him for any of Fulmer's issues is just not reasonable. |
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« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2017, 11:24:44 EST » |
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The Dickey comparison is apples to oranges. Dickey only coached at Tennessee 6 years, was not viewed as being one of Tennessee's most successful coaches, had not been fired by Tennessee, and had not coached at Tennessee in 16 years.
I think one of the best comparisons to the projected situation is Alvarez at Wisconsin, and even then Alvarez wasn't fired by Wisconsin. See the Wisky Athletics Department under Alvarez's tutelage. It has been a cluster.
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« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2017, 03:49:27 EST » |
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Hyams: Multiple sources: Reports that UT hiring Phillip Fulmer as AD `almost done' are incorrect. Timeline for hiring is April or May, maybe March Tennessee athletic director search committee: Charlie Anderson, Jimmy Haslam, Raja Jubran, Peyton Manning, Donna Thomas, Don Bruce |
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