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« on: January 18, 2021, 10:52:24 EST » |
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Vote for two.
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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2021, 03:04:57 EST » |
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I think that Freeze or Briles could maybe win, but I don’t think UT can hire them because of their past indiscretions.
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2021, 03:20:29 EST » |
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Pretty sure (99.99999%) the powers that be won't touch Freeze or Briles (although Briles is meh for me). Has to be one of the Tennessee Boys. Napier or Chadwell. 10 year project.
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BanditVol
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2021, 04:18:44 EST » |
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i voted for Briles, because the instructions said "not will but should".
My number two was Kiffin, believe it or not. Never thought I would get to that point. But Kiffin is even less likely than Briles.
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BanditVol
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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2021, 04:23:11 EST » |
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I'm having to look up some of the guys. O'Brien is a hard no. No more Alabama assitants! Sal Sunseri and Pruitt were disasters, and even part of the (alleged) attraction of Dooley was his ties to Saban. fizzle that!
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BanditVol
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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2021, 04:24:37 EST » |
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Mike Houston's record at East Carolina this year is only one game better than Pruitt's. NO THANKS!
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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2021, 04:25:47 EST » |
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I'm having to look up some of the guys. O'Brien is a hard no. No more Alabama assitants! Sal Sunseri and Pruitt were disasters, and even part of the (alleged) attraction of Dooley was his ties to Saban. fizzle that!
O’Brien was just hired at bammer and hasn’t coached a game there yet. I think he’d be a solid choice, given how he navigated PSU out of a mess 100x worse than ours. |
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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2021, 04:26:36 EST » |
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Healy turned Austin Peay around (are they still NIAA???), but has been very mediocre at Charlotte, rebuilding project or no. Doesn't seem to be an upgrade from Pruitt and has only been at small venues. Why? Is he even listed.
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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2021, 04:38:25 EST » |
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Factoring in likelyhood, in no particular order I would accept Chadwell, Napier and Clark.
To provide order, flip a coin on Chadwell and Napier and Clark is third.
But where are the cincy and Inidana coaches? They are right in there, for me at least.
My top choice is the IU coach, Tom Allen. The Cincinatti coach maybe just a notch behind Caldwell/Napier.
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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2021, 05:38:19 EST » |
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I have to laugh at all of you. Get the checkbook out and pay a proven coach. It's easier than paying all these "he might be a good head coach" tools that we end up hiring. But what proven head coach would want to take on this dumpster fire? Thank all you Dooley, Kiffin, Jones, and Pruitt apologists. Also you Fulmer apologists. You created this shizzle. When you see bad coaching call it out and quit making excuses. Now we are really screwed. Stoops anyone? Who else is left?
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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2021, 05:42:28 EST » |
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I have to laugh at all of you. Get the checkbook out and pay a proven coach. It's easier than paying all these "he might be a good head coach" tools that we end up hiring. But what proven head coach would want to take on this dumpster fire? Thank all you Dooley, Kiffin, Jones, and Pruitt apologists. Also you Fulmer apologists. You created this shizzle. When you see bad coaching call it out and quit making excuses. Now we are really screwed. Stoops anyone? Who else is left?
You love to throw stones but have no answers of your own. Stoops? Heavily criticized for not winning the MNC since 1999. Only slightly better than Richt, who averaged 9-10 wins a season and won a couple SECCs but was constantly berated as an underachiever. Only Dabo and Saban can meet your lofty standards. Good luck getting one of those. Stoops hasn't won a game that mattered since 1999. Why even consider him? |
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« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2021, 06:05:58 EST » |
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You love to throw stones but have no answers of your own.
Stoops? Heavily criticized for not winning the MNC since 1999. Only slightly better than Richt, who averaged 9-10 wins a season and won a couple SECCs but was constantly berated as an underachiever.
Only Dabo and Saban can meet your lofty standards. Good luck getting one of those.
Stoops hasn't won a game that mattered since 1999. Why even consider him?
I have to laugh at you because only 9-10 wins is something you would frown upon, yet you would be all for us hiring an unproven coach like Chadwell. Who would be more of an SEC type hire, Stoops or Chadwell. Chadwell is not SEC worthy. Trust me. I think Stoops would average 10+ wins once he got acclimated to the SEC. Why keep hiring these "might be" good coaches. Why not pay a proven coach? We paid Barnes. |
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« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2021, 06:12:02 EST » |
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I have to laugh at you because only 9-10 wins is something you would frown upon, yet you would be all for us hiring an unproven coach like Chadwell. Who would be more of an SEC type hire, Stoops or Chadwell. Chadwell is not SEC worthy. Trust me. I think Stoops would average 10+ wins once he got acclimated to the SEC. Why keep hiring these "might be" good coaches. Why not pay a proven coach? We paid Barnes.
We got lucky with Barnes, Texas wanted to move on and we needed someone. Just perfect timing. Show us a realistic equivalent in CFB and I'll listen. Stoops is not realistic, no matter how much money we throw at him. |
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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2021, 06:20:35 EST » |
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I have to laugh at you because only 9-10 wins is something you would frown upon, yet you would be all for us hiring an unproven coach like Chadwell. Who would be more of an SEC type hire, Stoops or Chadwell. Chadwell is not SEC worthy. Trust me. I think Stoops would average 10+ wins once he got acclimated to the SEC. Why keep hiring these "might be" good coaches. Why not pay a proven coach? We paid Barnes.
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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2021, 06:45:09 EST » |
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I have to laugh at you because only 9-10 wins is something you would frown upon, yet you would be all for us hiring an unproven coach like Chadwell. Who would be more of an SEC type hire, Stoops or Chadwell. Chadwell is not SEC worthy. Trust me. I think Stoops would average 10+ wins once he got acclimated to the SEC. Why keep hiring these "might be" good coaches. Why not pay a proven coach? We paid Barnes.
You literally said recently that we should only hire a coach who consistently wins conference titles in Power 5 leagues. So among active coaches, that narrows it down to Saban, Dabo, and Riley. Three guys. Four if you count Stoops. Do you really think there’s any amount of money that could persuade those guys to leave their current jobs (or comfy retirement, in Stoops’ case) to come and preside over the dumpster fire in Knoxville? |
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« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2021, 06:52:58 EST » |
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I have to laugh at you because only 9-10 wins is something you would frown upon, yet you would be all for us hiring an unproven coach like Chadwell. Who would be more of an SEC type hire, Stoops or Chadwell. Chadwell is not SEC worthy. Trust me. I think Stoops would average 10+ wins once he got acclimated to the SEC. Why keep hiring these "might be" good coaches. Why not pay a proven coach? We paid Barnes.
9-10 wins? Freeze achieved that for a few years at Ole Miss, but you have been all over the board saying he is overated. And I agree with Pirate. You bringing Barnes into this discussion is laughable. He doesn't meet your standard volsboy! |
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murfvol
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« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2021, 08:56:08 EST » |
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Factoring in likeliehood, in no particular order I would accept Chadwell, Napier and Clark.
To provide order, flip a coin on Chadwell and Napier and Clark is third.
But where are the cincy and Inidana coaches? They are right in their, for me at least.
My top choice is the IU coach, Tom Allen. The Cincinatti coach maybe just a notch behind Caldwell/Napier.
Good point Bandit. Allen and Fickel should have been included. As an aside, Malzahn (sorry Creek) and Herman were deliberately excluded. |
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BanditVol
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« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2021, 09:20:36 EST » |
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O’Brien was just hired at bammer and hasn’t coached a game there yet. I think he’d be a solid choice, given how he navigated PSU out of a mess 100x worse than ours.
Maybe so, but had a very mediocre record in the process. I could see him as an interim coach, and hope he works out long term, but we already have Steele as a fallback. I guess we could do worse, but I would put him after the other four I list. |
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« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2021, 09:32:14 EST » |
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Smugly snickering is no way to open a post to UT fans if you want them to reply with anything but their middle digit. Stop dreaming about something that if it could happen it would have already happened. No one is proven until the opportunity to shine presents itself. We have to find a happy medium between proven and potential. I remember when Saban left LSU and I heard a lot of folks say now you will see him crash. He was just lucky at LSU. So, Malzahn is out there... I don't know if he would shine or stumble... but maybe... let's find out?
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« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2021, 10:19:20 EST » |
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9-10 wins? Freeze achieved that for a few years at Ole Miss, but you have been all over the board saying he is overated. And I agree with Pirate. You bringing Barnes into this discussion is laughable. He doesn't meet your standard volsboy! You better check his record again. He beat Bama twice. Then lost to teams he should've beat. He never won a West title. According to this his SEC record was 6-21. We can do that with what we've got. His overall coaching record was padded greatly by all the non-SEC teams he coached earlier. But he is a Christian..that would never cheat with escorts or do any unethical recruiting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Freeze#Coaching_career |
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« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2021, 10:21:43 EST » |
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My point about Barnes is if you can pay him you better be able to pay a football coach. What is unreasonable about that?
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« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2021, 10:36:57 EST » |
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You love to throw stones but have no answers of your own.
Stoops? Heavily criticized for not winning the MNC since 1999. Only slightly better than Richt, who averaged 9-10 wins a season and won a couple SECCs but was constantly berated as an underachiever.
Only Dabo and Saban can meet your lofty standards. Good luck getting one of those.
Stoops hasn't won a game that mattered since 1999. Why even consider him?
You are correct. I have no answers as to who they should hire. But I have a lot of people in mind they shouldn't hire. How many of these coaches coaching G5 teams do you think will be the answer? SEC is a difficult gig. Ask some of the previous next big things. |
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« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2021, 08:49:56 EST » |
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You better check his record again. He beat Bama twice. Then lost to teams he should've beat. He never won a West title. According to this his SEC record was 6-21. We can do that with what we've got. His overall coaching record was padded greatly by all the non-SEC teams he coached earlier. But he is a Christian..that would never cheat with escorts or do any unethical recruiting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Freeze#Coaching_careerAs I have explained at least twice before, the 6-21 record includes several vacated wins due to NCAA sanctions. The actual record is 19-21. Still not great, but a lot better than 6-21. I think you are just afraid that if he comes to UT, he will beat bammer.  |
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