Just got back from seeing The Last Jedi

[Black Diamond Vol]

Very good.  I'll need some time to process it, but right now I'd say it's better than Force Awakens and any of Eps 1-3.  No spoilers, but I will say that it really does a good job of leading you on, and then at the last second, completely subverting your expectations.

And if you're worried about the Porgs- don't.  They're just a cute little diversion, and in no way crucial to the plot like the Ewoks and Jar Jar were.

[Tnphil]

My wife is SW nut.....She's been telling me the last umpteen movies that this will be the last of them....Yeah right! Like Harry Potter it never ends and this Last Jedi won't be the last either. Guess I'll have to take her to see this one....Is this the first before the first or the last of the first which was 4-5-6 which was really before 1-2-3?

Rant over

[Black Diamond Vol]

My wife is SW nut.....She's been telling me the last umpteen movies that this will be the last of them....Yeah right! Like Harry Potter it never ends and this Last Jedi won't be the last either. Guess I'll have to take her to see this one....Is this the first before the first or the last of the first which was 4-5-6 which was really before 1-2-3?

Rant over

This is the second film of a third trilogy, so it was never going to be the last.  And with the Han Solo Origin film coming in May, and a recently announced fourth trilogy coming...sometime, there are at least five more SW films to go.

Star Wars is a Disney property now, so they'll keep making films until it makes financial sense not to, and then they'll make them all into musical stage shows.  It's the Disney way.

[BanditVol]

Good no spoiler review.  Definitely the best of the rest, and may even give Jedi a run for it's money.  Nice plot twists...particularly the one with the remote light saber activation...I can say that without giving anything away.   

Also very nice performance by Mark Hamill...by far his best and the role of Luke in the plot movie was outstanding.   

And yes, the little cute things are barely there, As I understand it, they have been overshadowed by the crystal foxes anyway.   

[Black Diamond Vol]

Good no spoiler review.  Definitely the best of the rest, and may even give Jedi a run for it's money.  Nice plot twists...particularly the one with the remote light saber activation...I can say that without giving anything away.   

Also very nice performance by Mark Hamill...by far his best and the role of Luke in the plot movie was outstanding.   

And yes, the little cute things are barely there, As I understand it, they have been overshadowed by the crystal foxes anyway.   

I still have a few gripes.  The one scene with Leia (I'm sure you know which one I'm talking about) bothers me.  A lot.  An entire subplot that probably took up 20% of the screentime turned out to be entirely meaningless to the story.  And if they were going to get different directors for all these films, couldn't they have at least gotten on the same page on some things?  (Hard to be more specific without getting spoiler-y)

And are we buying the "reveal" about Rae's parents?

Still liked it overall, though.

[BanditVol]

I still have a few gripes.  The one scene with Leia (I'm sure you know which one I'm talking about) bothers me.  A lot.  An entire subplot that probably took up 20% of the screentime turned out to be entirely meaningless to the story.  And if they were going to get different directors for all these films, couldn't they have at least gotten on the same page on some things?  (Hard to be more specific without getting spoiler-y)

And are we buying the "reveal" about Rae's parents?

Still liked it overall, though.

I think I know what scene with Leia you mean...

I just noticed that there is a huge backlash over the way Luke was treated.  I can see objections over one of the controversial scenes on the Jedi Temple planet (let's just say it's a farming type scene  ), but that seems mostly pointless.    I also understand some of the issues people have with Luke's treatment at the very end....I think that could have been handled a bit differently.  Let's just say Disney is IMO overly eager to break all ties to the past, perhaps.  Can't say more without spoiling it.

As for the side plot, it was amusing and entertaining, but agree it didn't add much.

[Coupe De VOL]

Wow.  I thought this was easily the worst of all the SW movies.  I liked the prequel movies ok, but they weren’t great for sure.  TLJ was ok, but it could have been ten times better.  The interaction between Rey and Luke on the island was a farce.  The casino sub plot was idiotic.  The overall plot was pretty lame if you think about it.  It had some great moments and was well made.  The story was just a hodgepodge of marketing points and social commentary and little to do wit what Abrahms set up in TFA.  This director literally took all of th SW story and thre it over the cliff!  I’ll see it again, but not as good as the prequels IMO

If I want dysfunctional, I can watch Family Guy or Shameless.  I really don’t want to see much of it in SW.  I’m surprised We didn’t find out that Luke was hooked on Opioids or some silly thing

[BanditVol]

Wow.  I thought this was easily the worst of all the SW movies.  I liked the prequel movies ok, but they weren’t great for sure.  TLJ was ok, but it could have been ten times better.  The interaction between Rey and Luke on the island was a farce.  The casino sub plot was idiotic.  The overall plot was pretty lame if you think about it.  It had some great moments and was well made.  The story was just a hodgepodge of marketing points and social commentary and little to do wit what Abrahms set up in TFA.  This director literally took all of th SW story and thre it over the cliff!  I’ll see it again, but not as good as the prequels IMO

If I want dysfunctional, I can watch Family Guy or Shameless.  I really don’t want to see much of it in SW.  I’m surprised We didn’t find out that Luke was hooked on Opioids or some silly thing

Wow...worse than the prequels...thats pretty harsh!

I like that Lukes character suffered and struggled and why he did.  He redeemed himself so well though. (-:

The thing with me is, Im not going to get that upset either way. I was 13 when Empire came out, and the book adaptation, for whatever reason, was released a week before the movie. I bought it, promised myself I wouldnt read it , the read almost the entire thing but stopped one page short of "Luke I am your father", so I was still able to enjoy the reveal.

Nothing will ever top that experience. And yes, Empire is the best.
As an adult, Ill go see them all, but I wont get too worked up either way.

[Black Diamond Vol]

I got the bluray set of Eps 1-6 for Christmas a couple years ago.  I hadn't seen Ep 1 since it was released, so I decided to revisit it to see if it was as bad as I remember.  It was even worse.  Darth Maul was cool.  The Pod race was cool.  And that was about it.  Jar Jar really did ruin the movie.  Whenever there was something that resembled a poignant moment, he'd say or do something stupid to ruin the mood in the name of "comic relief". 

TLJ has its faults, for sure, but IMO it's nowhere NEAR as bad as Phantom Menace.

[73Volgrad]

The Last Jedi was good. It was not perfect, but the audience today has been spoiled by CGI effects. I thought the plots and writing were good because it sets up the next movie and the ones after. This movie and the last are vehicles to say goodbye to the old cast. All movies are somewhat predictable when you know how a screen play is written. The old Jedi order is dead and a new good Force is forming.

[MIAUTIGER]

Wow.  I thought this was easily the worst of all the SW movies.  I liked the prequel movies ok, but they weren’t great for sure.  TLJ was ok, but it could have been ten times better.  The interaction between Rey and Luke on the island was a farce.  The casino sub plot was idiotic.  The overall plot was pretty lame if you think about it.  It had some great moments and was well made.  The story was just a hodgepodge of marketing points and social commentary and little to do wit what Abrahms set up in TFA.  This director literally took all of th SW story and thre it over the cliff!  I’ll see it again, but not as good as the prequels IMO

If I want dysfunctional, I can watch Family Guy or Shameless.  I really don’t want to see much of it in SW.  I’m surprised We didn’t find out that Luke was hooked on Opioids or some silly thing

I won't go that harsh, but it was not nearly as good as The Force Awakens, IMO.  And it was not as good overall as last year's Rogue One...again, IMO.  It was a good movie, but seemed forced at times...pun intended.  I may catch hell for this...but Mark Hamill is not a great actor, and I think it showed in this movie. But...I try to watch movies and just enjoy them, and I enjoyed this one overall.  Trying not to spoil it...the two best scenes in the movie were, IMO, the light sabre trick that was mentioned here and the Holdo light speed move. And I did enjoy the bits of humor that was spread through the movie, but thought it was a little too much. There...now y'all can get on with your lives :-)

[BanditVol]

I won't go that harsh, but it was not nearly as good as The Force Awakens, IMO.  And it was not as good overall as last year's Rogue One...again, IMO.  It was a good movie, but seemed forced at times...pun intended.  I may catch hell for this...but Mark Hamill is not a great actor, and I think it showed in this movie. But...I try to watch movies and just enjoy them, and I enjoyed this one overall.  Trying not to spoil it...the two best scenes in the movie were, IMO, the light sabre trick that was mentioned here and the Holdo light speed move. And I did enjoy the bits of humor that was spread through the movie, but thought it was a little too much. There...now y'all can get on with your lives :-)

I think this one was better than Force Awakens, but a big part of it is that it went beyond the total retro of Awakens.  A lot more new ground was broken in this movie, though it did have a few throwback tropes, but not nearly to the extent of the first movie.

They do still seem to be trying to find a role for Finn, and there was a scene near the end with him where I almost hoped it would end differently.   

I hate to say it, but I almost think he was included to be PC but they forgot to define a role for him.   

There were certainly things to dislike in this movie.  For instance, at one point Luke states something to the effect that they have to move beyond what is in the ancient Jedi texts.  To me that is the devil-spawn Disney corporation taking a swipe at the Bible.   But maybe that's just me.

It's universally acknowledged that Mark Hamill is not a great actor.  That really came home to me when I re-watched Episode 4 early last week.  He was pretty god-awful...not something I really noticed as a child, but clear as an adult.

So let me be clear...this is the best I've seen him act in any of the 4 movies he has been prominently featured in.  And in spite of a lot of internet complaining about how he was treated in this one, some of which is justified, I did like the way it turned out, except for his final scene if you know what I mean. I would prefer he have more than a cameo in the next one.

[Coupe De VOL]

I think this one was better than Force Awakens, but a big part of it is that it went beyond the total retro of Awakens.  A lot more new ground was broken in this movie, though it did have a few throwback tropes, but not nearly to the extent of the first movie.

They do still seem to be trying to find a role for Finn, and there was a scene near the end with him where I almost hoped it would end differently.   

I hate to say it, but I almost think he was included to be PC but they forgot to define a role for him.   

There were certainly things to dislike in this movie.  For instance, at one point Luke states something to the effect that they have to move beyond what is in the ancient Jedi texts.  To me that is the devil-spawn Disney corporation taking a swipe at the Bible.   But maybe that's just me.

It's universally acknowledged that Mark Hamill is not a great actor.  That really came home to me when I re-watched Episode 4 early last week.  He was pretty god-awful...not something I really noticed as a child, but clear as an adult.

So let me be clear...this is the best I've seen him act in any of the 4 movies he has been prominently featured in.  And in spite of a lot of internet complaining about how he was treated in this one, some of which is justified, I did like the way it turned out, except for his final scene if you know what I mean. I would prefer he have more than a cameo in the next one.

I love Mark Hamill, but yeah, he is not a great live actor - great voice actor, though.  I think that is why they stuck him with the puppet and the robot in most of Empire Strikes Back    I don't think he quite pulled off his role in this last film.  Like the joke of him brushing dust off his shoulder - funny, but he didn't kill that joke like, say, a Harrison Ford would.  I don't want to give the impression that I hate the last film, I just thought it was say, more mediocre than the prequels.  I liked Awaken much better, and you can clearly tell a difference in tone & style in the storytelling between the two.  Jedi kinda reminded me of Armageddon.  I went into Armageddon expecting sci-fi, and I got goofball instead.  It's pretty obvious Disney is going to take these films in a different direction.  It seems like they consider the past films legacy as a liability for the future and kinda of decided to toss that light sabre over the cliff 

[VinnieVOL]

Finally got a chance to go see this tonight.  I pretty much echo what others have said, MIAUTIGER made a good point above.  Not that I didn't think the humor wasn't funny, I laughed.  But the degree they took the humor took me off guard and at times felt out of place.  Early on, the exchange between Hux and Poe.. "Can he hear me?" is a good example.  It was funny, but felt weird. 

I really liked it, to me it's better than Ep's 1-3 but doesn't top Empire Strikes Back or Force Awakens.. somewhere in between.  Minor complaints would be along the same lines you guys have already mentioned.

One thing though, it kept me engaged.  When planning dinner/movie I checked the run time and I sort of groaned.  Many times movies are just too long.  Even movies I'm into, can just drag on.  I felt that way about the 2nd and 3rd Pirates of the Caribbean movies.. seems like I even dozed off in the theater during the 3rd one.  But Last Jedi seemed to fly by and I was engaged right up until the end.

[tshadow]

Wow.  I thought this was easily the worst of all the SW movies.  I liked the prequel movies ok, but they weren’t great for sure.  TLJ was ok, but it could have been ten times better.  The interaction between Rey and Luke on the island was a farce.  The casino sub plot was idiotic.  The overall plot was pretty lame if you think about it.  It had some great moments and was well made.  The story was just a hodgepodge of marketing points and social commentary and little to do wit what Abrahms set up in TFA.  This director literally took all of th SW story and thre it over the cliff!  I’ll see it again, but not as good as the prequels IMO

If I want dysfunctional, I can watch Family Guy or Shameless.  I really don’t want to see much of it in SW.  I’m surprised We didn’t find out that Luke was hooked on Opioids or some silly thing

I tend to agree with you. There's no way it's better than return of the sith (JMO). I tend to see it as the second to last. It would really be last if not for the sticker shock of Jar Jar. Really Jar Jar might not have been so bad if not for the horrendous voice/dialect. I can't say I've enjoyed this third trilogy at all. TFA was just a ripoff of ANH.