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Title: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on November 25, 2017, 12:02:53 EST
...Notice the two white whales mentioned at the end of the article.  There aren't many guys I'd want more than Gruden.  But Chris Peterson?  Yes please. :wow:

http://gridironnow.com/volunteers-expected-name-next-head-coach-matter-days/


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: Tnphil on November 25, 2017, 12:07:24 EST
I'd take Peterson...don't know how he'd recruit in the South being a West coast guy? I read today his buyout is just 1.5 million?


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on November 25, 2017, 12:10:25 EST
I'd take Peterson...don't know how he'd recruit in the South being a West coast guy? I read today his buyout is just 1.5 million?

He'd have to hire some assistants with experience in the region, for sure.  But Butch had no Southern connections, either, and he recruited just fine.


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: Tnphil on November 25, 2017, 12:14:20 EST
Butch did recruit quite a bit in the Southeast before coming to UT. Not sure Peterson ever has.


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: FLVOL on November 25, 2017, 02:05:41 EST
Recruiting wouldn't be much of an issue,  IMO. If Peterson is the coach, high school kids will come because he will help them get to the NFL. It's the same reason they pick Bama


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on November 25, 2017, 02:31:19 EST
Recruiting wouldn't be much of an issue,  IMO. If Peterson is the coach, high school kids will come because he will help them get to the NFL. It's the same reason they pick Bama

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Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: Coupe De VOL on November 25, 2017, 03:00:29 EST
It would seem this hire was done a while ago and was not announced until the end of the regular season due to who was hired.   Does that give us any clue as to who it is? 


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on November 25, 2017, 03:10:36 EST
It would seem this hire was done a while ago and was not announced until the end of the regular season due to who was hired.   Does that give us any clue as to who it is? 

I do think it's been done for a while.  But I wouldn't read anything into waiting to make the announcement.  I can't recall any school announcing a new coach in mid-season, unless it's an interim who's already there.  Even when we hired Kiffin it started leaking a day or two before the last game, but nothing official came out until it was over.


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: PirateVOL on November 25, 2017, 08:49:29 EST
...Notice the two white whales mentioned at the end of the article.  There aren't many guys I'd want more than Gruden.  But Chris Peterson?  Yes please. :wow:

http://gridironnow.com/volunteers-expected-name-next-head-coach-matter-days/
A few of points:
Tennessee tends to honor the unofficial rule that you don't contact coaches directly in season.  As such I doubt that Currie flew to the West coast this week.  Also include the absolute fact that he attended sports events in Knoxville at at Atlantis the entire week would question the validity of John's reporting.
John said would make his pick within 72 hours but, though he implied it, he never said it would be announced
If indeed it is Monday it will NOT be Gruden, as he will be in Pittsburgh for his Monday night gig.
Given the above, and the general perception that Currie has had a big fish then my guess would be Peterson.  I would note that the buzz of Mullen essential died when the rubber hit the road, as in their season ended.  Peterson would fit in the Currie MO in that until late yesterday there has been little or no speculation regarding him. If it is indeed Peterson I think he could do very well here, given the right staff


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: murfvol on November 25, 2017, 10:11:26 EST
If it's Petersen, I will buy ribs at JD's Smokehouse in Connelly Springs, NC for every VTTW poster who shows up.


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: murfvol on November 25, 2017, 10:21:42 EST
If Washington wins today, they'll play next Saturday, so it seems unlikely Petersen is the guy.


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: LouisVOL on November 25, 2017, 05:07:54 EST
I see Petersen as the only coach that would not create a fan backlash over "should have been Gruden"

Barring the unlikely (Gruden), I am really surprised there have not been controlled leaks to start managing fanbase expectations.

Which leaves me here-------it is Gruden.   Or Petersen.   Or Mullen.   Or Norvell.   Or csmpbell.   Or Schiano.   Or Brohm.   Or Les Miles.   Or Kiffin.   Or me.   

...Notice the two white whales mentioned at the end of the article.  There aren't many guys I'd want more than Gruden.  But Chris Peterson?  Yes please. :wow:

http://gridironnow.com/volunteers-expected-name-next-head-coach-matter-days/


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on November 25, 2017, 05:26:35 EST
I see Petersen as the only coach that would not create a fan backlash over "should have been Gruden"

Barring the unlikely (Gruden), I am really surprised there have not been controlled leaks to start managing fanbase expectations.

Which leaves me here-------it is Gruden.   Or Petersen.   Or Mullen.   Or Norvell.   Or csmpbell.   Or Schiano.   Or Brohm.   Or Les Miles.   Or Kiffin.   Or me.   


Congrats.  You're the first person here (including the dumbass who started this thread) to spell PetersEn's name correctly.  Seeing as he's going to be our coach for the next 20 years, we'd all better start getting these things right. :dance:


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: murfvol on November 25, 2017, 05:33:30 EST
1) Congratulations Louis!  I'm available to interview for both OC and DC at your convenience. If it helps, I could do both.

2) Thanks for the heads-up on PetersEn's name BDV. I'll spell it correctly on the memo line of my check for $25 to help fund his buyout.


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: volsboy on November 25, 2017, 06:01:16 EST
A few of points:
Tennessee tends to honor the unofficial rule that you don't contact coaches directly in season.  As such I doubt that Currie flew to the West coast this week.  Also include the absolute fact that he attended sports events in Knoxville at at Atlantis the entire week would question the validity of John's reporting.
John said would make his pick within 72 hours but, though he implied it, he never said it would be announced
If indeed it is Monday it will NOT be Gruden, as he will be in Pittsburgh for his Monday night gig.
Given the above, and the general perception that Currie has had a big fish then my guess would be Peterson.  I would note that the buzz of Mullen essential died when the rubber hit the road, as in their season ended.  Peterson would fit in the Currie MO in that until late yesterday there has been little or no speculation regarding him. If it is indeed Peterson I think he could do very well here, given the right staff
Petersen would be about as good a hire as one could ask for, if he is the man. As for the last sentence in your post, I'm sure a lot of folks said the same thing about the last three Vol hires.


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: PirateVOL on November 25, 2017, 06:06:24 EST
Petersen would be about as good a hire as one could ask for, if he is the man. As for the last sentence in your post, I'm sure a lot of folks said the same thing about the last three Vol hires.
Do you even have a CLUE why I wrote the last phrase?? :frown:


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: volsboy on November 25, 2017, 06:21:55 EST
Do you even have a CLUE why I wrote the last phrase?? :frown:
I do actually. But you could say that about most coaches. One of Jones biggest shortcomings was the staff he assembled around him. Most all really good coaches have great staffs beside them.


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: PirateVOL on November 25, 2017, 06:24:10 EST
I do actually. But you could say that about most coaches. One of Jones biggest shortcomings was the staff he chose to have around him. I agree with you on this. I didn't mean it in a negative way....believe it or not...lol.
Not even close but here is a lovely edition of the home game to take with you


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: volsboy on November 25, 2017, 06:52:44 EST
Not even close but here is a lovely edition of the home game to take with you
Well then clue me in. I'm used to folks that say what they mean instead of beating around the bush. What I read was "Petersen could do good here given the right staff". Well duh on me.


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: FLVOL on November 25, 2017, 07:42:35 EST
Well, that and...

lol, well played


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: volsboy on November 25, 2017, 08:51:59 EST
Chip Kelly: While attention centers on Florida and UCLA, Kelly has turned down overtures from Tennessee and Nebraska according to George Schroeder of USA Today. Schroeder also reports that Kelly is intrigued by a potential opening at Arizona State, whose affiliation with Adidas would be less of a sticking point for close friend Phil Knight than UCLA-affiliated Under Armour, who Knight considers “a bitter rival.”


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: PirateVOL on November 25, 2017, 08:53:57 EST
Chip Kelly: While attention centers on Florida and UCLA, Kelly has turned down overtures from Tennessee and Nebraska according to George Schroeder of USA Today. Schroeder also reports that Kelly is intrigued by a potential opening at Arizona State, whose affiliation with Adidas would be less of a sticking point for close friend Phil Knight than UCLA-affiliated Under Armour, who Knight considers “a bitter rival.”
Considering ALL the major spots outlets have confirmed Kelly to UCLA, spot on - if you consider us not offering, turning down then again, spot on


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: FLVOL on November 25, 2017, 08:57:06 EST
Considering ALL the major spots outlets have confirmed Kelly to UCLA, spot on - if you consider us not offering, turning down then again, spot on

DFTT


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: TheRealOrange on November 25, 2017, 08:59:02 EST
Chip Kelly: While attention centers on Florida and UCLA, Kelly has turned down overtures from Tennessee and Nebraska according to George Schroeder of USA Today. Schroeder also reports that Kelly is intrigued by a potential opening at Arizona State, whose affiliation with Adidas would be less of a sticking point for close friend Phil Knight than UCLA-affiliated Under Armour, who Knight considers “a bitter rival.”

Your point?  From what I've heard, Tennessee never contacted Kelly.  And, Schroeder was off base almost entirely.  Pure, incorrect speculation.


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: volsboy on November 25, 2017, 09:30:03 EST
well this was from a day or two ago. So there. I know it's hard for some here to believe coaches turn down the Tennessee job.  :frown:


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: PirateVOL on November 25, 2017, 09:33:45 EST
well this was from a day or two ago. So there. I know it's hard for some here to believe coaches turn down the Tennessee job.  :frown:
The problem is TROLL is that Tennessee NEVER offered Kelly the jb - How fizzleing difficult is that for YOU to understand?!?
UF OFFERED - hell they took the school President & chief contract writer with them to NH
If you ever paid attention to what Currie stated as his main criteria then YOU would understand that Kelly would NEVER be offered
The criteria?  Something YOU would not understand: INTEGRITY


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: FLVOL on November 25, 2017, 09:34:34 EST
well this was from a day or two ago. So there. I know it's hard for some here to believe coaches turn down the Tennessee job.  :frown:

It must be just as hard to realize that some places just don't want you around.















































Let me clarify by saying that I'm referring to Kelly / UT


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: volsboy on November 25, 2017, 09:39:41 EST
The problem is TROLL is that Tennessee NEVER offered Kelly the jb - How fizzleing difficult is that for YOU to understand?!?
UF OFFERED - hell they took the school President & chief contract writer with them to NH
If you ever paid attention to what Currie stated as his main criteria then YOU would understand that Kelly would NEVER be offered
The criteria?  Something YOU would not understand: INTEGRITY

And you know that it's gospel they never offered. BS. I guess you were either in the room or believe the spin. I just posted what I saw in the report. Maybe he turned them down before they even offered. I guess that would make you right then.


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: PirateVOL on November 25, 2017, 09:40:27 EST
It must be just as hard to realize that some places just don't want you around.







(Board) down one order of magnitude, minimum







































Let me clarify by saying that I'm referring to Kelly / UT


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: PirateVOL on November 25, 2017, 09:43:10 EST
And you know that it's gospel they never offered. BS. I guess you were either in the room or believe the spin. I just posted what I saw in the report. Maybe he turned them down before they even offered. I guess that would make you right then.
It might SHOCK you to find out that unlike just reading random internet BS as you do, some might have better actual, like knowledge

1st rule of holes = STOP DIGGING


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: TheRealOrange on November 25, 2017, 09:54:19 EST
well this was from a day or two ago. So there. I know it's hard for some here to believe coaches turn down the Tennessee job.  :frown:

You are, and always have been, a one trick pony on this board. Now you post old, clearly erroneous information from somone obviously out of touch with what's actually going on, and without context, and seemingly try to ascribe some profound meaning to it.  You're a totally negative person and don't want to believe that Tennessee could ever be doing something the right way.  And, believe it or not, not everyone thinks Kelly would have been a good fit at Tennessee.  You will criticize no matter what, as negativity is evidently in your DNA.  Pathetic.


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: volsboy on November 25, 2017, 10:03:48 EST
You are, and always have been, a one trick pony on this board. Now you post old, clearly erroneous information from somone obviously out of touch with what's actually going on, and without context, and seemingly try to ascribe some profound meaning to it.  You're a totally negative person and don't want to believe that Tennessee could ever be doing something the right way.  And, believe it or not, not everyone thinks Kelly would have been a good fit at Tennessee.  You will criticize no matter what, as negativity is evidently in your DNA.  Pathetic.
Where did I say I ever liked Kelly for the job. i definitely don't won't him.  I don't see me as negative. I see it as not kissing these overpaid, unproven coaches butts from day one. That being said, I would be on board with Petersen, but that don't mean he should be imune from criticism if his teams don't perform. It would be hard not to improve from this season.


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: PirateVOL on November 25, 2017, 10:06:22 EST
Where did I say I ever liked Kelly for the job. i definitely don't won't him.  I don't see me as negative. I see it as not kissing these overpaid, unproven coaches butts from day one. That being said, I would be on board with Petersen, but that don't mean he should be imune from criticism if his teams don't perform. It would be hard not to improve from this season.
Stop digging - we beg of you


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: volsboy on November 25, 2017, 10:11:46 EST
Okay Pirate. I hope the new coach hits the recruiting trail running. I just don't want a repeat of the last few hires.


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: TheRealOrange on November 25, 2017, 10:31:31 EST
Where did I say I ever liked Kelly for the job. i definitely don't won't him.  I don't see me as negative. I see it as not kissing these overpaid, unproven coaches butts from day one. That being said, I would be on board with Petersen, but that don't mean he should be imune from criticism if his teams don't perform. It would be hard not to improve from this season.

I never said you did.  Reading comprehension is clearly not your strong suit.  All of the negative people I've ever encountered have fancied themselves as voices of reason, and the only ones seeing truth, choosing not to be sycophants, not kissing butts, blah, blah, blah.  Same old tired lines.  That's been you since day one.  And, like the others, you're wrong.  Trust me, you're nothing but negative.  You offer nothing more than criticism and actually hope you're right.  You're not a fan; you're an attention-seeking parasite.  I'm done.  You're one of the primary reasons I avoid this board now.  Back to lurking.


Title: Re: Brice thinks we'll have our new coach by Monday...
Post by: PirateVOL on November 25, 2017, 10:36:38 EST
Okay Pirate. I hope the new coach hits the recruiting trail running. I just don't want a repeat of the last few hires.
Hey MORON!
FCBJ could and did recruit
just sucked at player development and coaching

as usual fizzleING CLUELESS!!