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Title: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: ReVOLver on August 24, 2012, 04:10:50 EDT
The last few years should have taught all of you that anything is possible with UT football... just sayin.  :dcool:


Title: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: PirateVOL on August 24, 2012, 04:15:23 EDT
The last few years should have taught all of you that anything is possible with UT football... just sayin.  :dcool:
I don't see Hart even speaking to the individual in question, just saying :dunno:


Title: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: VoLynteer on August 24, 2012, 04:18:42 EDT
My deepest hope is that he goes to Kentucky and we keep Dooley.  I hate Clay Travis...he is all about shoving Bobby Petrino down our throat (no pun intended).


Title: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: murfvol on August 24, 2012, 04:28:54 EDT
I'm pumped about this year. If we stink in 3 months then I'll worry about something else.  Sure I'm nervous and don't know how things will play out, but I'm giving everyone a chance.


Title: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: ReVOLver on August 24, 2012, 04:30:14 EDT
I don't see Hart even speaking to the individual in question, just saying :dunno:

I don't know one way or another but I see two good Vol fans saying they would stop rooting for UT if he were hired... he is the best coach on the market, and has never broken NCAA rules... with the state of UT football these days, I just don't want to see two good Vol fans get bitten in the ass by karma.

I don't want him either, but I think dismissing him as a possibility is not a good assumption. He is a GREAT football coach, just a slimy person.


Title: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: ReVOLver on August 24, 2012, 04:30:57 EDT
My deepest hope is that he goes to Kentucky and we keep Dooley.  I hate Clay Travis...he is all about shoving Bobby Petrino down our throat (no pun intended).

Your deepest hope is that Petrino goes to Kentucky??

He is a great coach, Lyn. It is fine to not want him at UT, I don't want him either, but think about what you are saying.


Title: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: Memphisvolunteer on August 24, 2012, 04:32:04 EDT
If we still had Hamilton as AD, then I might could see that...having Hart as the AD, I really don't see that happening.  I think the name is a sexy pick, but he has to much baggage at every stop that he has made.  You might think that he has learned his lesson, but can you really be sure?  I just don't see UT going that route.

As far as the Rogers situation goes, I hate to lose him because I wanted to see what we could do with 3 GREAT receivers, but I would rather lose him before the season starts instead of 3 games into the season.  At least now we can make plans to move on without him.  Also, if the reports are true about his attitude and what he was like in the lockerroom, this may be a blessing and will bring the team closer.


Title: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: ReVOLver on August 24, 2012, 04:32:37 EDT
I'm pumped about this year. If we stink in 3 months then I'll worry about something else.  Sure I'm nervous and don't know how things will play out, but I'm giving everyone a chance.

Ah yes, the "Let's see how it plays out" approach. I applaud you. But Dooley has to convince me that he is good enough to stay, not convince me he is bad enough to be fired. My original post was more about BDV and Emeril saying they would quit rooting for UT if Petrino were hired. I'm not saying they are wrong, I'm saying that that's dangerous karma.


Title: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: ReVOLver on August 24, 2012, 04:34:37 EDT
If we still had Hamilton as AD, then I might could see that...having Hart as the AD, I really don't see that happening.  I think the name is a sexy pick, but he has to much baggage at every stop that he has made.  You might think that he has learned his lesson, but can you really be sure?  I just don't see UT going that route.

As far as the Rogers situation goes, I hate to lose him because I wanted to see what we could do with 3 GREAT receivers, but I would rather lose him before the season starts instead of 3 games into the season.  At least now we can make plans to move on without him.  Also, if the reports are true about his attitude and what he was like in the lockerroom, this may be a blessing and will bring the team closer.

Actually, I think the other way around... if Hamilton were around, he would never touch Petrino because of the Kiffin situation. You don't think that Dave Hart might look around and see the best coach on the market and think, I can control that guy and steal a great coach? Hart is his own man, I don't think he's trying to pussyfoot around situations that Hamilton created. Hart doesn't have any bad will from the Pearl or Kiffin situations or the Fulmer firing to worry about.


Title: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: Memphisvolunteer on August 24, 2012, 04:42:51 EDT
I don't disagree with you, but I still say that UT doesn't want that can of worms....but hey, I could be wrong.


Title: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: droner on August 24, 2012, 04:43:51 EDT
Hey, the guy cheated on his wife. It's not like he killed someone.  :biggrin:


Title: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: Volznut on August 24, 2012, 05:00:09 EDT
I think CDD will have a pretty good year this year, and even if he is replaced, I don't think we'd go after Petrino, not because he isn't a good coach - he is, but his history. He could leave us in a Kiffin type debocle all over again, and anyone that slimy I can't trust to not break the rules.  Not sure he'd be the answer.

Now...If we did hire him, I would still root for the Vols. I am a UT football fan, not a UT coach fan.



Title: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: VoLynteer on August 24, 2012, 05:09:28 EDT
Your deepest hope is that Petrino goes to Kentucky??

He is a great coach, Lyn. It is fine to not want him at UT, I don't want him either, but think about what you are saying.

LOL...I ain't skeered of him.  He will fizzle it up somehow!


Title: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: VoLynteer on August 24, 2012, 05:13:15 EDT
Hey, the guy cheated on his wife. It's not like he killed someone.  :biggrin:

And gave his floozy a job.  Arky doesn't care about his wife...they care about a sexual harassment lawsuit.


Title: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: murfvol on August 24, 2012, 05:22:51 EDT
Lyn's dead-on about Arkansas. If he hadn't hired (one of ?) his fling(s) he'd still be there. The guy can really coach. If you want to win he's a no-brainer.


Title: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: Hollerboy on August 24, 2012, 05:26:07 EDT
Hey, the guy cheated on his wife. It's not like he killed someone.  :biggrin:
Peter Warrick reference?  Its not like he Killed the President?


Title: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: PirateVOL on August 24, 2012, 05:47:54 EDT
We already had one coach who liked his flings, don't need another


Title: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: ReVOLver on August 24, 2012, 05:58:20 EDT
Nobody is campaigning for Petrino, at least not here, and I'm not trying to justify his sleaze. I just think that he will get a look if they decide Dickey isn't the right guy in the end. He's too good a coach, and people who think that Universities are going to stand on character (as opposed to rule breaking) aren't thinking clearly about the money involved. I know it's warm and fuzzy for people to think that character flaws are the biggest thing when a coach is hired, but it's all about those Ws and Ls.

I could totally see Hart looking at the situation and saying, they haven't been able to get a big name coach here... well here's a big name coach who will crawl here to take the job and who can compete immediately.

Watch and see, his name will be hot around the search if Dooley goes bye bye.

Oh and Pirate, I'd bet half my paycheck that better than 50% of college head and assistant coaches enjoy their flings. It comes with the character profile.


Title: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: VoLynteer on August 24, 2012, 06:29:26 EDT
I hear Phil Fulmer is available.  :biggrin:

I just hope someone else snatches him up...I will feel skeevy if he is our coach.


Title: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on August 24, 2012, 06:44:16 EDT
I meant what I said.  I would continue to post here, heck, I'd even continue coming up to the tailgates, just to see everyone.  But I would wait until basketball season to root for the Vols.


Title: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on August 24, 2012, 09:11:19 EDT
I don't know one way or another but I see two good Vol fans saying they would stop rooting for UT if he were hired... he is the best coach on the market, and has never broken NCAA rules... with the state of UT football these days, I just don't want to see two good Vol fans get bitten in the ass by karma.

I don't want him either, but I think dismissing him as a possibility is not a good assumption. He is a GREAT football coach, just a slimy person.

I'm certainly not dismissing the possibility.  In fact, I would say that it's not just possible, but probable that I will have to follow through with what I said.  When it comes to UT football, I've learned to expect the worst-case scenario.  That way, I'm never disappointed. :frown:


Title: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: Jedi Master on August 24, 2012, 10:44:34 EDT
If UT were to hire Petrino as the leader and face of its program, given his demonstrated lack of integrity at his two most recent jobs... well, it would speak volumes about UT and its (lack of) leadership.  Can't believe there would be many UT fans that would be willing to trade integrity for wins, but perhaps I overestimate that. 

It would be especially ironic given how Kiffin left your program high and dry - very similiar to how Petrino left the Falcons.  Surely UT leadership has learned from its experience.  I would be amazed if UT hired Petrino.


Title: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: PirateVOL on August 24, 2012, 10:58:31 EDT
If UT were to hire Petrino as the leader and face of its program, given his demonstrated lack of integrity at his two most recent jobs... well, it would speak volumes about UT and its (lack of) leadership.  Can't believe there would be many UT fans that would be willing to trade integrity for wins, but perhaps I overestimate that. 

It would be especially ironic given how Kiffin left your program high and dry - very similiar to how Petrino left the Falcons.  Surely UT leadership has learned from its experience.  I would be amazed if UT hired Petrino.
Exactly why I believe Hart would not even look in that direction


Title: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: droner on August 24, 2012, 11:40:04 EDT
Peter Warrick reference?  Its not like he Killed the President?

 :thumbup:


Title: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: LouisVOL on August 25, 2012, 12:11:29 EDT
The Arkansas fling is the least of his transgressions to me (not to make light of it, but it is pretty common).  What is less common is secretly meeting with another college program, lying to your AD about even having the meeting, lying to the press about lying to your AD, and not admitting anything until the plane tracers and motel watchers and finally the other school provide irrefutable evidence.  I don't even mind the screwing he gave Louisville, followed by the screwing he gave the Falcons.  But I can't tolerate a blatant liar, especially one who lies to his direct superior in response to very clear questions, and then lies about lying.


Title: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on August 25, 2012, 01:42:12 EDT
As for him never being in NCAA trouble, I would add a big fat yet.  The guy has made a career of shizzleting on his friends, his family, his players, and the guys who sign his ample paychecks.  If he's so easily willing to deceive those who are trying to do right by him, do you really believe he thinks twice about following NCAA bylaws?  I'll bet Otha Peters knows where a few of those bodies are buried. :frown:


Title: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: SmokeyJoe on August 25, 2012, 02:18:27 EDT
Dooley ain't going anywhere because of David-Ricky. Hence, it is a moot debate. UT hasn't hired many coaches historically, and there is a reason.  Peace, love, and GBO! :powert:


Title: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: SmokeyJoe on August 25, 2012, 02:27:32 EDT
That said, I never blame a man for trying to score :biggrin: I just don't get why UT would remotely consider him. Not necessary. Not one bit. He has had "some" success. Hardly a proven, guaranteed, home run. Why would VFLs even be thinking about coaching changes because David-Ricky fizzleed up again... Let's all just hold our dadburned horses. :dance:


Title: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: Oldvol75 on August 25, 2012, 03:19:52 EDT
Chucky in waiting!


Title: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: Volznut on August 25, 2012, 03:57:42 EDT
If UT were to hire Petrino as the leader and face of its program, given his demonstrated lack of integrity at his two most recent jobs... well, it would speak volumes about UT and its (lack of) leadership.  Can't believe there would be many UT fans that would be willing to trade integrity for wins, but perhaps I overestimate that. 

It would be especially ironic given how Kiffin left your program high and dry - very similiar to how Petrino left the Falcons.  Surely UT leadership has learned from its experience.  I would be amazed if UT hired Petrino.

WTF are you talking about Jedi? Trade integrity for wins? Happens on a daily basis in college football and basketball, especially the SEC. Your Mark Richt likes to pretend he is a saint, but he isn't.



Title: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: Jedi Master on August 25, 2012, 03:10:55 EDT
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WTF are you talking about Jedi? Trade integrity for wins? Happens on a daily basis in college football and basketball, especially the SEC. Your Mark Richt likes to pretend he is a saint, but he isn't.

Well Nut, there's a line to be crossed when it comes to selling your soul in the name of winning.  Any program (including UT) that hires Petrino would be crossing that line.  You know it, and I know it.  If you want to argue the point, don't bother, as it would only tell me what I would need to know about your character.

I and most UGA fans are proud to have CMR as our HC.  He's certainly not a saint, but he achieves the right balance between integrity and winning.  He recruits and coaches in an honorable manner, and runs a clean program relative to how many other coaches run their programs. His record of good deeds and selfless actions is well documented by others.  You can try to degrade him by comparing him to Petrino, but the truth is more of a contrast than a comparison.

Look forward to our game in Athens this year, and to observing UT's season, as usual.  Good luck. 


Title: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: Stogie Vol on August 25, 2012, 11:56:42 EDT
Talk about crossing the line...to make a character judgement about someone based upon their opinion of whether or not Petrino is a viable, potential candidate based upon his subject personal life seems to me to be in poor judgement.

'Nut's character has been demonstrated time and again to be solid.

I personally don't like Petrino and hope he would not be a candidate, but to question someone's character if they disagree with me on it seems ludicrous.


Title: Re: Re: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: ReVOLver on August 26, 2012, 04:51:29 EDT
Well Nut, there's a line to be crossed when it comes to selling your soul in the name of winning.  Any program (including UT) that hires Petrino would be crossing that line.  You know it, and I know it.  If you want to argue the point, don't bother, as it would only tell me what I would need to know about your character.

I and most UGA fans are proud to have CMR as our HC.  He's certainly not a saint, but he achieves the right balance between integrity and winning.  He recruits and coaches in an honorable manner, and runs a clean program relative to how many other coaches run their programs. His record of good deeds and selfless actions is well documented by others.  You can try to degrade him by comparing him to Petrino, but the truth is more of a contrast than a comparison.

Look forward to our game in Athens this year, and to observing UT's season, as usual.  Good luck.

Lol. Dumb leap of judgment.


Title: Re: Re: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: ReVOLver on August 26, 2012, 04:52:20 EDT
I meant what I said.  I would continue to post here, heck, I'd even continue coming up to the tailgates, just to see everyone.  But I would wait until basketball season to root for the Vols.

Oh I know you meant what you said. That's the point. :)


Title: Re: Re: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: ReVOLver on August 26, 2012, 04:53:41 EDT
Dooley ain't going anywhere because of David-Ricky. Hence, it is a moot debate. UT hasn't hired many coaches historically, and there is a reason.  Peace, love, and GBO! :powert:

We're not talking about the Da'Rick situation. We're anticipating a possible causing change at the end of the year. If they don't win at least 8 games, and maybe 9, it's going to happen.


Title: Re: Lots of corners being backed into on this board re: Petrino
Post by: SmokeyJoe on August 26, 2012, 05:53:12 EDT
We're not talking about the Da'Rick situation. We're anticipating a possible causing change at the end of the year. If they don't win at least 8 games, and maybe 9, it's going to happen.

I agree. Just being hopeful for now, but hopefully not delusional! ;-) I don't like Petrino. I don't see him as proven beyond a doubt. That's my opinion, and I'm sticking with it! :powert: