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Title: If Hunter is out for the season, he will qualify for a medical redshirt
Post by: BigOrange Maniac on September 18, 2011, 04:40:24 EDT
Not that he'll need it...just saying.


Title: Re: If Hunter is out for the season, he will qualify for a medical redshirt
Post by: PirateVOL on September 18, 2011, 04:44:23 EDT
Not that he'll need it...just saying.
No, he hasn't taken a red shirt yet


Title: Re: If Hunter is out for the season, he will qualify for a medical redshirt
Post by: 101stDad on September 18, 2011, 04:52:03 EDT
Realistically, even if he doesn't play any more this year and he comes back at 100%, the liklihood of his staying after next year is pretty slim.  He is just too talented not to come out and take the first round money he would be able to get.  I don't see him staying more than 3 years, and I don't mean 3 years of playing, but 3 years period.



Title: Re: If Hunter is out for the season, he will qualify for a medical redshirt
Post by: BigOrange Maniac on September 18, 2011, 06:48:01 EDT
Realistically, even if he doesn't play any more this year and he comes back at 100%, the liklihood of his staying after next year is pretty slim.  He is just too talented not to come out and take the first round money he would be able to get.  I don't see him staying more than 3 years, and I don't mean 3 years of playing, but 3 years period.



Which is why I said he won't need the redshirt


Title: Re: If Hunter is out for the season, he will qualify for a medical redshirt
Post by: BanditVol on September 19, 2011, 05:01:53 EDT
No harm in taking it though.


Title: Re: If Hunter is out for the season, he will qualify for a medical redshirt
Post by: PirateVOL on September 19, 2011, 09:50:52 EDT
Not that he'll need it...just saying.
Accoring to the NCAA BYLAWS, no

14.2.4 Hardship Waiver. A student-athlete may be granted an additional year of competition by the conference
or the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement for reasons of “hardship.” Hardship is defined as
an incapacity resulting from an injury or illness that has occurred under all of the following conditions: (Revised:
8/8/02, 11/1/07 effective 8/1/08)

(a) The incapacitating injury or illness occurs in one of the four seasons of intercollegiate competition at any
two-year or four-year collegiate institutions or occurs after the first day of classes in the student-athlete’s senior
year in high school; (Revised: 1/10/92 effective 8/1/92, 11/01/01, 8/8/02)

(b) The injury or illness occurs prior to the first competition of the second half of the playing season that
concludes with the NCAA championship in that sport (see Bylaw 14.2.4.3.4) and results in incapacity to
compete for the remainder of that playing season; (Revised: 1/14/97 effective 8/1/97, 4/26/01 effective 8/1/01,
4/3/02, 4/24/08)

(c) In team sports, the injury or illness occurs when the student-athlete has not participated in more than three
contests or dates of competition (whichever is applicable to that sport) or 30 percent (whichever number is
greater) of the institution’s scheduled or completed contests or dates of competition in his or her sport. Only
scheduled or completed competition (including exempted events but excluding scrimmages and exhibition
contests identified as such in the legislation) against outside participants during the playing season that concludes
with the NCAA championship, or, if so designated, during the official NCAA championship playing
season in that sport (e.g., spring baseball, fall soccer), shall be countable under this limitation in calculating
both the number of contests or dates of competition in which the student-athlete has participated and the
number of scheduled or completed contests or dates of competition during that season in the sport. Dates of
competition that are exempted (e.g., alumni contests, foreign team in U.S.) from the maximum permissible
number of contests or dates of competition shall count toward the number of contests or dates in which the
student-athlete has participated and the number of scheduled or completed contests or dates of competition
in the season, except for scrimmages and exhibition contests that are specifically identified as such in
the sport’s Bylaw 17 playing and practice season regulations. Scrimmages and exhibition contests that are
not exempted from the maximum permissible number of contests or dates of competition may be excluded
from the calculation only if they are identified as such in the sport’s Bylaw 17 playing and practice season
regulations; and (Revised: 1/10/92, 1/14/97 effective 8/1/97, 4/26/01 effective 8/1/01, 3/10/04, 5/11/05, 8/4/05,
4/26/07 applicable to student-athletes who initially enrolled full time in a collegiate institution on or after 8/1/03,
9/18/07, 4/24/08)


Title: Re: If Hunter is out for the season, he will qualify for a medical redshirt
Post by: BigOrange Maniac on September 19, 2011, 09:54:37 EDT
Accoring to the NCAA BYLAWS, no

14.2.4 Hardship Waiver. A student-athlete may be granted an additional year of competition by the conference
or the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement for reasons of “hardship.” Hardship is defined as
an incapacity resulting from an injury or illness that has occurred under all of the following conditions: (Revised:
8/8/02, 11/1/07 effective 8/1/08)

(a) The incapacitating injury or illness occurs in one of the four seasons of intercollegiate competition at any
two-year or four-year collegiate institutions or occurs after the first day of classes in the student-athlete’s senior
year in high school; (Revised: 1/10/92 effective 8/1/92, 11/01/01, 8/8/02)

(b) The injury or illness occurs prior to the first competition of the second half of the playing season that
concludes with the NCAA championship in that sport (see Bylaw 14.2.4.3.4) and results in incapacity to
compete for the remainder of that playing season; (Revised: 1/14/97 effective 8/1/97, 4/26/01 effective 8/1/01,
4/3/02, 4/24/08)

(c) In team sports, the injury or illness occurs when the student-athlete has not participated in more than three
contests or dates of competition (whichever is applicable to that sport) or 30 percent (whichever number is
greater) of the institution’s scheduled or completed contests or dates of competition in his or her sport. Only
scheduled or completed competition (including exempted events but excluding scrimmages and exhibition
contests identified as such in the legislation) against outside participants during the playing season that concludes
with the NCAA championship, or, if so designated, during the official NCAA championship playing
season in that sport (e.g., spring baseball, fall soccer), shall be countable under this limitation in calculating
both the number of contests or dates of competition in which the student-athlete has participated and the
number of scheduled or completed contests or dates of competition during that season in the sport. Dates of
competition that are exempted (e.g., alumni contests, foreign team in U.S.) from the maximum permissible
number of contests or dates of competition shall count toward the number of contests or dates in which the
student-athlete has participated and the number of scheduled or completed contests or dates of competition
in the season, except for scrimmages and exhibition contests that are specifically identified as such in
the sport’s Bylaw 17 playing and practice season regulations. Scrimmages and exhibition contests that are
not exempted from the maximum permissible number of contests or dates of competition may be excluded
from the calculation only if they are identified as such in the sport’s Bylaw 17 playing and practice season
regulations; and (Revised: 1/10/92, 1/14/97 effective 8/1/97, 4/26/01 effective 8/1/01, 3/10/04, 5/11/05, 8/4/05,
4/26/07 applicable to student-athletes who initially enrolled full time in a collegiate institution on or after 8/1/03,
9/18/07, 4/24/08)

Spell it out for me. Which part of that would rule out Hunter?