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Title: A dismal showing.*
Post by: droner on November 12, 2023, 12:52:30 EST
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Title: Re: A dismal showing.*
Post by: PirateVOL on November 12, 2023, 12:59:52 EST
No, we flat SUCKED!
Far worse than the SCe game last year!


Title: Re: A dismal showing.*
Post by: FLVOL on November 12, 2023, 01:03:45 EST
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Agreed


Title: Re: A dismal showing.*
Post by: Tnphil on November 12, 2023, 01:06:07 EST
Drink in post game interview...."our defense kicked their ass."

Can't argue with that one bit....And if Heupel doesn't have a NFL QB and NFL type WRs then today....Bama game...USC game is what you get. About as bad as a Pruitt team.


Title: Re: A dismal showing.*
Post by: wtkvol on November 12, 2023, 01:09:59 EST
Drink in post game interview...."our defense kicked their ass."

Can't argue with that one bit....And if Heupel doesn't have a NFL QB and NFL type WRs then today....Bama game...USC game is what you get. About as bad as a Pruitt team.

You are correct. Just better than what we had. Which was terrible


Title: Re: A dismal showing.*
Post by: FLVOL on November 12, 2023, 01:19:18 EST
Drink in post game interview...."our defense kicked their ass."

Can't argue with that one bit....And if Heupel doesn't have a NFL QB and NFL type WRs then today....Bama game...USC game is what you get. About as bad as a Pruitt team.
You are correct. Just better than what we had. Which was terrible

Then let's can Huepel, who do we get?? Smart? Saban?


Title: Re: A dismal showing.*
Post by: VinnieVOL on November 12, 2023, 01:23:05 EST
Worst showing of the JH era, by far.

Truly puzzling.


Title: Re: A dismal showing.*
Post by: murfvol on November 12, 2023, 02:13:21 EST
I'd argue the SC loss last year was far worse, but the offense was there. Florida this year might also be as bad or worse.

Tonight we were down six points at the half, and 15 going into the fourth quarter. We had a chance even after our abject failures.


Title: Re: A dismal showing.*
Post by: FLVOL on November 12, 2023, 02:18:59 EST
I'd argue the SC loss last year was far worse, but the offense was there. Florida this year might also be as bad or worse.

Tonight we were down six points at the half, and 15 going into the fourth quarter. We had a chance even after our abject failures.

This


Title: Re: A dismal showing.*
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on November 12, 2023, 02:22:36 EST
Look at the wins this season. This team has not beaten a really ?good? team yet.

I think most would agree that 8-4 was the absolute floor for expectations for this team. Assuming that UGA beats us and we can beat Vandy, that makes it an ok season - but not a season where anything really good was accomplished.

I believe that the offense has been severely limited by Joe. The INT on the slant today is a prime example, imo, of why we mainly throw sideline routes and short, wide-receiver screens. I do not think that Joe can read/see the defense and find the open receivers (for whatever reasons). All of that is really compounded when the run game is nonexistent, as it was today.

We were badly manhandled on the LOS on both sides of the football today. It was painful to watch.

Whoever thought that using Herring as a spy on the RB and/or QB must have been drunk.


Title: Re: A dismal showing.*
Post by: BanditVol on November 12, 2023, 03:01:04 EST
Look at the wins this season. This team has not beaten a really ?good? team yet.

I think most would agree that 8-4 was the absolute floor for expectations for this team. Assuming that UGA beats us and we can beat Vandy, that makes it an ok season - but not a season where anything really good was accomplished.

I believe that the offense has been severely limited by Joe. The INT on the slant today is a prime example, imo, of why we mainly throw sideline routes and short, wide-receiver screens. I do not think that Joe can read/see the defense and find the open receivers (for whatever reasons). All of that is really compounded when the run game is nonexistent, as it was today.

We were badly manhandled on the LOS on both sides of the football today. It was painful to watch.

Whoever thought that using Herring as a spy on the RB and/or QB must have been drunk.

8-4 wasn't my floor, it was my expection, but I did say 9-3 would not surprise me, but 7-5 would not have either. I wasn't sure about the Junior game after last season, and figured Tamu would be a tough win (which it was)

What I didn't see mentioned above was how bad we have been on the road this year.  1-3, close win at UK and one good half against bammer, otherwise we have stunk it up.  Don't think Heupel did well in road games his first two years either....well, maybe UK his first year, but that was really close.

He is going to have to figure out if there is something about his offense that makes it not work well on the road...crowd noise, maybe?  Just not a good road team at all this season.


Title: Re: A dismal showing.*
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on November 12, 2023, 03:19:12 EST
8-4 wasn't my floor, it was my expection, but I did say 9-3 would not surprise me, but 7-5 would not have either. I wasn't sure about the Junior game after last season, and figured Tamu would be a tough win (which it was)

What I didn't see mentioned above was how bad we have been on the road this year.  1-3, close win at UK and one good half against bammer, otherwise we have stunk it up.  Don't think Heupel did well in road games his first two years either....well, maybe UK his first year, but that was really close.

He is going to have to figure out if there is something about his offense that makes it not work well on the road...crowd noise, maybe?  Just not a good road team at all this season.
UVA, AP, UTSA, USCe, UK, A&M, UCONN. 🤔

None of those are what I would call ?good? teams. I think maybe this team is just not a really ?good? team either. We were beaten by a bad UF team on the road. I think the other 2 losses were good teams, both of which happened to be on the road.

As for last season, losing at USC was inexcusable. I?m still baffled by that game. There is nothing unsettling about the loss to UGA in Athens last year.

In the last two seasons, CJH has lost two road games that I would consider troubling (USC and UF). Missouri, imo, is a good team - I am not so upset about the loss as I am about how the game played out.

Going forward, especially with the expanded playoff format, CJH is definitely going to need to figure out how to keep the ?laying an egg? type games from happening.


Title: Re: A dismal showing.*
Post by: BanditVol on November 12, 2023, 03:25:39 EST
UVA, AP, UTSA, USCe, UK, A&M, UCONN. 🤔

None of those are what I would call ?good? teams. I think maybe this team is just not a really ?good? team either. We were beaten by a bad UF team on the road. I think the other 2 losses were good teams, both of which happened to be on the road.

As for last season, losing at USC was inexcusable. I?m still baffled by that game. There is nothing unsettling about the loss to UGA in Athens last year.

In the last two seasons, CJH has lost two road games that I would consider troubling (USC and UF). Missouri, imo, is a good team - I am not so upset about the loss as I am about how the game played out.

Going forward, especially with the expanded playoff format, CJH is definitely going to need to figure out how to keep the ?laying an egg? type games from happening.

I think this was just the worst effort overall I have seen from a Heupel team.  We had some bad breaks, but that was only part of it.  I think the tone was set when we got the pick and promptly went 3 and out from their 45 or so, with two runs being stuffed.  I think they sniffed something out in our run game and were ready for those runs.


Title: Re: A dismal showing.*
Post by: FLVOL on November 12, 2023, 04:18:17 EST
Let's get Kiffiin back! Ol Miss looked freakin awesome in the 1st quarter against UGA, so he must be the most logical choice. If not him, then maybe Drinkwitz!

Quit talking about problems unless you have a solution


Title: Re: A dismal showing.*
Post by: BanditVol on November 12, 2023, 04:56:26 EST
Let's get Kiffiin back! Ol Miss looked freakin awesome in the 1st quarter against UGA, so he must be the most logical choice. If not him, then maybe Drinkwitz!

Quit talking about problems unless you have a solution

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