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I've given this a lot of thought and I think now is the right time to put this out there.

I love this board and the community we have, but I'm at the point in my life where I don't want to own it and admin it anymore. I will admit that part of it is that Tennessee is not good, and as board owner it sucks that I feel required to log in and check the board even when I don't want to read about Tennessee, but that's only a small part of the problem. Mostly, it's just that I don't feel like I am doing the site justice. I am too busy with work and life to redo the board and go after new members and really market it as it deserves to be marketed. I had a vision for what I wanted to do with it when I moved away from the Mudduck and I'm ashamed to say that once I got the board up, all development on that front stopped. What we have now is a board that is static and not seeking out new people to post and a board that is not welcoming to opposing fans, so it's a slowly dying board. At least three longtime members have left recently, one of them is TRO, a man who I consider to be one of my closest friends and confidants. And I don't blame any of them for leaving. I think that we're in a situation where familiarity breeds contempt.

That being said, I don't want to see VTTW die. I have made many great friends here, laughed a lot of laughs, and cried a lot of real tears over this place. I can honestly say that my experience as a Tennessee fan has been heightened by the experience of owning this place. But when I was 21, I was willing to sacrifice a lot of time for the sake of my hobby, and now... I just have too much going on to do it justice, and I'm not going to make time to further the site or maintain it.

What I'm doing here is announcing that in the near future, I will be stepping away from VTTW as owner and admin. I don't have a date for that yet. What I would like to see is for someone else... a board member, or not, it doesn't matter, step up and take it over and be willing to put the time into it that it deserves. I will give it away for free to someone who cares about it and wants to see it flourish. If you are interested in doing this, PM me. I will take "applications" for the next few weeks of people who want to take it over and once those all seem to be in, I will make a decision that is in the best interests of the site. If nobody is willing to take it on, sadly VTTW will be no more. If it continues to stay up, I will continue to be a member and drop in from time to time.

I have come close to doing this a couple of times. The first time I changed servers and bought another four years. The second time was this past offseason when I let the VTTW.net domain expire (accidentally) and then realized that it didn't even matter to anybody but TRO who was still using his vttw.net email addy. But then the board fees autorenewed so I thought, let's see what happens. One thing I'm a firm believer in is when you know something is the right call, you have to make that call. Six months ago I wanted to make this post but it didn't feel right. Today, with the same information, it feels right.

I hope that all of you know that I am not making this decision flippantly or lightly. VTTW has been a huge part of my life for 14 years. I'm only 37 years old. Almost 40% of my life, I've owned this board. This board has truly helped me through some of the toughest times a person can have in life, and almost none of you even know about those times. I saved my marriage from the brink of divorce twice while owning this board. I've dealt with some extremely personal issues with my parents while owning this board. This board was a big part of the excitement for me when my children were born. There were times in my life, especially in the first 5 years of the board's existence, where I doubted if I could be a success and this board was something I could look at and use to believe in myself.

I hope this is not too depressing for people. If someone who cares about it will step up, I believe that VTTW can be a dynamic place. I just think my time as the driver of the car has run its course, and one way or another, it's time for a change.

That is a bummer.  If was still at my old job I'd apply in a heartbeat.

I hope someone steps up.

All I have to say is Thankee, sai.  I have met some of the most awesome people I know because of this board and several members helped me get through my divorce.  It has always been more than just a message board.   :kiss2:

Jeff, first and foremost.  Thank You for a lot of wonderful memories here. 

Second, what does it take in terms of a) web knowledge and b) admin time?

a) The person doing the technical work will need to have moderate web knowledge. Once the basic setups are done, most of these forums are built so a novice can do it, but the board and the main site are in need of an overhaul. I can gladly walk people through the basics of the setup as it is now.

b) That's completely up to the person who takes it over. I spend almost zero admin time. That's the problem.

A partnership between multiple people is the right way to go. Ideally to really push it, you have somebody who understands web marketing and someone who is technologically inclined. I tried to do both and I'm good at both but also lazy and unmotivated.

One other qualifier to throw in there for anybody who might be interested... I currently foot the bill for the board. I HATE fundraising, and would rather just pay for it than ask for money and coordinate that, and it's not that expensive. However, there will be a small financial commitment for anybody who decides to take it over, unless they have funding or plan to do advertising. I don't even remember how much it is but it's not much. I will look it up if I get any inquiries.

Thanks a ton for providing a great place to discuss the Vols and/or food/yards/who-knows-what. I can't tell you how much I appreciate the time and effort you've poured into VTTW. I realize I don't know the half of it.

I'm probably unqualified on all counts, but I will help in any capacity I can on a part-time basis.  Unlike most boards, we're mostly all adults here who have jobs, so sharing the burden is definitely the way to go.

Pretty much my POV also

People could also petition Mud and Wayne to get back on the Mudduck which would allow for a less technical owner, but it would be VERY expensive per month.

This place has meant a great deal to a significant number of people. I certainly count myself among them and know I have lifelong friends from being a part of this community. I have no intention to stop participating no matter who owns it, but my posting and reading rate is substantially less than it once was . . . a sign of the times.

In the end, all you have to ask yourself is if your involvement over the years has been worth it. I doubt you'll find any regular who spent any significant time on the board or met other regulars in person who could come remotely close to answering "no" . . . even those who stopped coming for one reason or another. I know what your answer would be too, ReVOLver, and you've invested much more of yourself than anyone else. It's been worth it.

But things run their course, and I don't blame you for how you feel today. I can empathize to some small degree via my experience with The BruceBall Blog. At some point it's just not right for you anymore no matter how much you've enjoyed it.

On to another chapter.

Let me clarify... I had a LOT of downtime at my old job and now I'm just really busy throughout the day.

Also, thanks Jeff.  I'll reiterate what Lyn said, that this is more than just a sports board.  This is a community of friends where we share laughs, tears, and go to each other for trusted advice.

It's been a great clubhouse to hang out. I'm sure that's it's also been a pain at times for you. I can't imagine going to any other board and becoming a regular there. I hardly ever post on either of the Mudduck boards and the general attitude on the other Vol boards isn't really appealing. After all, what other board would allow a wine post?

If someone manages to keep it going, I'll support it, including financially.

I appreciate you putting up with it (and us) for as long as you have.

Gahh!!!  Not sure what I would do without the Wine Post and Friday Reminders!  :run:

Thanks for your honesty. Like others, I'm appreciative of all the sacrifi es you've made and I wish nothing but the best for you.

Thanks Jeff.

I had thought this day was coming, based upon your posts over the last few.

Glad you want to keept the board running, it is a community.

The worst part is that in order to keep up with my VTTW friends I'll have to it on the devil Facebook. (http://home.mindspring.com/~wbalford/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/devil.gif)

Well, I hope someone steps up. This is a good board.

Damn, that is a shame.  Hope the board survives in some form or fashion. I have enjoyed lurking and poasting from time to time.   

If for some reason it doesn't, I read Droner's poast but I'd take him as a first round supplemental wine draft pick.  We need someone to keep BBG honest!  javascript:void(0);:beer: :beer:

You're a generous fellow and host.  Thanks for letting us into your house for such a long and lovely party.   :kiss2:

yer pal™,
VOLveeta

When we 1st got online in our house and I started looking for UT sites to see what was out there this was one of the 1st places I found. I liked it because it was not full of snot nosed punks. While people had opinions they for the most part had respect for each other. Typically it is the 1st site I check in the mornings. I understand the need to stop, as our lives progress priorities change and we think differently.

Maybe someone with the savvy and time will continue the site and put their spin on it as would be expected. I have enjoyed my time here.

Thank you Jeff for the years of providing a place for friends to meet. Lynn is right, this is more than a sport's site, it family. I hope it can continue.

I have been a lurker/biannual (lol) poster here for many years.  I used to post more frequently.  Like the rest here it would be hard to have to let VTTW go.  It is a little like the one rational fan at an away game that sits down right next to you and makes the whole experience tolerable in a sea of irrational fools.  That's VTTW... the rational knowledgable vol site (that has a life outside football- well, kinda at least).  You need look no further than what happened to Gridscape to see the other end of the spectrum.  No matter what happens, I want to sincerely thank you for all your time, effort, sweat, blood and tears you have poured into this.  It made the world a little better place.  Peace volbrother...

--FV

Well put.

Great post.

Franklin Vol, that was a PERFECT analogy.  I can't read the other boards anymore.  So gossipy and negative.  Gridscape is especially negative and the posters don't EVER consider the damage their negativity can pose on the program.  I've read plenty on the net deny that negativity on boards has an effect, well, it does.  Too many former players have talked about how much impact the message boards have during recruiting.  This board has always been so civil and frankly, more intellectual than pretty much all others.  And I respect the tight relationship that happened with the Virtual Swamp.  I like a lot of those guys down there.

Anyways... I'm saddened by this but boy do I understand.

Thanks for a job well done with the board and especially the moderating! You have kept this place very clear of clutter and maintained a friendly atmosphere that is enjoyable to be a part of for all these years. New friends have come on board and others we have lost. Thanks Jeff and I don't even care you haven't learned to spell our last name correctly, yet!

GreggO

I love posting on here, and I don't even look at any of the others...................................this is a great place to BITCH ABOUT and cheer for the VOLS.

Thanks for keeping it going BOSS, I hope it keeps going, and would pay some to ensure this.

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You have done a yeoman's job here, Jeff, and I have made several good friends here.

That being said, the tone is definitely a bit different now than when it was on the 'duck. It is a bit less welcoming for non-Vol drop by's.  For life getting busier and other reasons, I don't come by daily as I once did (hell, I barely pop by once a week to have a look).

Hope it stays around in some form, where else can I go to say "Not mine" ?

I believe the tone changed long before we left the Mudduck... I just think non-Vol regulars didn't notice it until the board itself began to look dissimilar.

If you weren't such an @$$ we would be nice to you! :kiss2: :kiss2:

As an update, I have had several inquiries from interested parties and I'm confident VTTW will live on... it's just a question of what sort of structure of ownership and administration we will be looking at.

I don't know a thing about this but if someone else is willing to take this over, and the cost would be too much for them  maybe we could pay something yearly to read and post here?  Just a thought.
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I don't think the cost will be the issue if people want to stay with a board of this type. It's not really that expensive.

To further clarify, money is not the reason why I want out.

Well, as a salesman I used to have told his largest customer when he lost them, "Well, you sure was good while you lasted".  As one of the early adopters, this board has been a part of my routine for a lot of years now, and while I am no longer an active poster, I still check in daily.  It has been a very good board over the years, and while it has changed substantially, one thing has not--there are some mighty good folks here, and you are one of them.  I appreciate everything.

Is it because every third post you get responses like you are on the VS?

I used to post on this board every day, in or out of football season. I stopped posting on a regular basis about five years ago but I still lurk. I've enjoyed it a lot over the years and thank you, ReVOLver, for making this site and maintaining it for so long.

I've had to let this sink in for a few days before I could post.   Bossman, this has been the best Vol board on the Internet for years.    I have met so many friends through the years...I remember our very first tailgate....my Dad came with me because he didn't want me coming around a bunch of strange men alone!!!  Ha!   Like I couldn't have whipped you all!  Woooo!  Me and Pirate going to Athens in the T-bird.....the tailgate for the SECC game!   Lots of memories!!!    Thank you for all the great years...life goes on and changes all along the way.....and I guess is time for another big change in our lives.   Hopefully, someone will take on the ask of keeping VTTW alive...if not, well...it's been a great run!  Love you Bossman!   You are a very special man!

So when do I get the royalty check for all these awesome graphics?!  :wink:  Thanks for everything Pistol.   :thumbup:

I think it's a bummer. Hope the board survives. Where will I share my wisdom if it folds?  :frown:  :confused:

Who is the new poster TheRealOrange?

So, he leaves, you come back.  Win.. Win...   :thumbup:

I put off replying to this for a few days because I was a little shocked reading the opening thread. I've been around since the Vols won the MNC, what, 14 years? This place is so much more than a sports board. I remember calling my brother at work and telling him that Spurrier was about to resign from UF and him telling me that I was full of shizzle because it wasn't on ESPN. I remember crying on the days that Guido and Tango passed, meeting guys like OJ and Pete through VTTW and recently my wife was shocked when Tony shouted my name, calling us over to his tailgate at the UT - UF game after a eight year hiatus.

Jeff, thanks for all that you have given us, it's a true blessing. However, I'm not ready to let it go. I will do what ever is needed to keep it going

How you been fella?

I'm not sure what that means but the reason is, it's just time.