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« on: September 02, 2016, 06:38:41 EDT »

Hat to hat I get, the rest was bull shizzle
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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2016, 07:04:41 EDT »

So we starts at Bristol 1st Qtr?   
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2016, 07:13:32 EDT »

So we starts at Bristol 1st Qtr?   
if I remember he oh as served his time
If the incident had occurred in the 2nd half then he would have missed the first half of the next game
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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2016, 07:17:19 EDT »

By the letter of the law, the officials got it right. But I'm sick of watching this rule put college football's best players on the sideline for non-malicious hustle plays. Powder-puff football sucks.

Edit: Meant to say the targeting part was right, by the letter of the law. I still don't know HITH that was kick catch interference, unless as Butch Jones said postgame, he signaled for a fait catch as soon as the punt was in the air.
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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2016, 07:30:50 EDT »

Hat to hat I get, the rest was bull shizzle

Many of the articles say the hit occurred after a fair catch signal. I sure didn't see any fair catch signal on the replays I've seen.   
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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2016, 07:54:46 EDT »

Many of the articles say the hit occurred after a fair catch signal. I sure didn't see any fair catch signal on the replays I've seen.   
there was NO fair catch signal
No way, no how
The "penalty" was R-M was too close, which by rule he wasn't
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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2016, 09:31:28 EDT »

Actually he did, but pretty much EVERYONE missed it, including Mushberger and Palmer during the broadcast.

http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-football/260274-jrm-suspended-va-tech-game-6.html#post12885883

There should be a rule about how early it can be signaled, IYAM. 
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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2016, 09:44:14 EDT »

It seems likely to me that it could be coached "gamesmanship".

"Signal fair catch as soon as the ball leaves the kickers foot, we might catch them not paying attention and get a penalty out of it"

Appy St did a lot of those kinds of tricks it would seem, see the "injuries" they kept having too.
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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2016, 11:10:02 EDT »

It was a bogus call. Period! The rules have an ambiguity that the fair catch signal is suppose to address but if the runner does not avail themselves of it the onus should be on them not the defense. The true rules are to stop a play you down the ball which is what the runner did. He did not interfere with the catching of the punt but that is what the call was with the aggravation of targeting. This situation will exist and the receiving team takes their chances in this way to try and get a call like that or they must change the process of change of possession. I suspect the kid was coached to do this (kinda irresponsible). Sorry vinnie... I didn't realize you had already posted it.
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« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2016, 05:49:19 EDT »

It was a bogus call. Period! The rules have an ambiguity that the fair catch signal is suppose to address but if the runner does not avail themselves of it the onus should be on them not the defense. The true rules are to stop a play you down the ball which is what the runner did. He did not interfere with the catching of the punt but that is what the call was with the aggravation of targeting. This situation will exist and the receiving team takes their chances in this way to try and get a call like that or they must change the process of change of possession. I suspect the kid was coached to do this (kinda irresponsible). Sorry vinnie... I didn't realize you had already posted it.

Yeah, I mean it seems clever to coach the returner to do that....but you're putting the kid at risk.

Still, it's the coverage team's responsibility to get their eyes downfield and pay attention.
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