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« on: November 12, 2012, 09:44:49 EST » |
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...now our local radio guys are, uh, "special"- so if this is inaccurate, my apologies. Anyway, they said that in 80 years of SEC football, UT has lost 180 league games. 18 of those belong to Dooley. For the math impaired, that's 10% of our all time losses, in less than 3 seasons. Just damn.  |
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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2012, 09:56:26 EST » |
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...now our local radio guys are, uh, "special"- so if this is inaccurate, my apologies. Anyway, they said that in 80 years of SEC football, UT has lost 180 league games. 18 of those belong to Dooley. For the math impaired, that's 10% of our all time losses, in less than 3 seasons. Just damn. Per James Howell's historical data, UT's SEC record all-time (including this season) is 323-184-21. I think those are on-the-field results, so forfeits are not changed. Dooley does indeed have 18 of the losses so 10% is pretty much there. And yes, that's pathetic. |
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2012, 10:00:35 EST » |
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...now our local radio guys are, uh, "special"- so if this is inaccurate, my apologies. Anyway, they said that in 80 years of SEC football, UT has lost 180 league games. 18 of those belong to Dooley. For the math impaired, that's 10% of our all time losses, in less than 3 seasons. Just damn. And in the 5 years prior to Dooley (2005-2009), the Vols lost 19 SEC games. So, that would mean 20+ percent of all of the Vols' league losses have occurred in just the past 8 seasons (~4.5 of the total seasons).  In Majors' first 24 SEC games, he went 10-14 (.417). Dooley, even if he wins against Vandy and KY, will be 6-18 (.250). Truly bad. |
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2012, 10:05:47 EST » |
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Per James Howell's historical data, UT's SEC record all-time (including this season) is 323-184-21. I think those are on-the-field results, so forfeits are not changed. Dooley does indeed have 18 of the losses so 10% is pretty much there.
And yes, that's pathetic.
The official UT publication indicates 319-174-19 through last season, so that would be 319-180-19 currently. That's probably where they got the information. |
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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2012, 10:07:55 EST » |
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Too add to this, even if Dooley wins the last two, 18 losses in three seasons would be the most all time at UT, eclipsing the previous record of 16 (done twice-- 1962-1964 and 2009-2011  ). Also, UT has had 17 seasons with sub-.500 SEC records since 1932. Five of those are in the last eight seasons. There has never been another 8 year period with five losing SEC seasons. |
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2012, 10:21:59 EST » |
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Black Diamond Vol
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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2012, 10:31:40 EST » |
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And just for comparison's sake, Fulmer didn't lose his 18th SEC game until his 11th full (and a portion of a 12th) season. |
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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2012, 10:40:44 EST » |
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This thread makes me want to  (in mass quantities) |
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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2012, 11:52:09 EST » |
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The 62-64 stretch is interesting. 62 2-5 (beat vandy tulane and ga tech) - ha, two of these schools no longer SEC 63 3-4 (beat uk tulane and vandy) - lost to Ga Tech, but tech was independent starting this year 64 1-5-1 (beat msu and tied LSU) Total record...6-14-1 note ...only 7 SEC games per season prior to 92 tulane was as bad or worse than vandy prior to dropping out of the SEC in 1966, so I would say not too many quality wins in that stretch either. But yeah, we are worse even if Dooley wins the next two. But at least 64 was the year Dickey took over. In 65 his SEC record was 2-1-2. Somehow we only played five sec games, but we tied Auburn and Alabama, and from there we went on to win the 67 and 69 SEC titles under Dickey. |
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« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2012, 12:51:19 EST » |
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The 62-64 stretch is interesting. 62 2-5 (beat vandy tulane and ga tech) - ha, two of these schools no longer SEC 63 3-4 (beat uk tulane and vandy) - lost to Ga Tech, but tech was independent starting this year 64 1-5-1 (beat msu and tied LSU) Total record...6-14-1 note ...only 7 SEC games per season prior to 92 tulane was as bad or worse than vandy prior to dropping out of the SEC in 1966, so I would say not too many quality wins in that stretch either. But yeah, we are worse even if Dooley wins the next two. But at least 64 was the year Dickey took over. In 65 his SEC record was 2-1-2. Somehow we only played five sec games, but we tied Auburn and Alabama, and from there we went on to win the 67 and 69 SEC titles under Dickey. GT officially withdrew from the the SEC in June of 1964, so '63 counts. The official yearly records for '62-'64 are 2-6, 3-5 and 1-5-1, so the total is 6-16-1. The Vols beat GT in '64 but it doesnt count as an SEC win. |
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« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2012, 02:35:46 EST » |
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...now our local radio guys are, uh, "special"- so if this is inaccurate, my apologies. Anyway, they said that in 80 years of SEC football, UT has lost 180 league games. 18 of those belong to Dooley. For the math impaired, that's 10% of our all time losses, in less than 3 seasons. Just damn. Hooooleeeee shizzle. Yeah let's give this guy another year. What the fizzle! |
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« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2012, 04:09:06 EST » |
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GT officially withdrew from the the SEC in June of 1964, so '63 counts. The official yearly records for '62-'64 are 2-6, 3-5 and 1-5-1, so the total is 6-16-1. The Vols beat GT in '64 but it doesnt count as an SEC win. Oh thanks. My source for Tech withdrawing in 63 was Wikipedia....go figure, it was wrong.  |
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