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« on: June 14, 2013, 12:39:22 EDT »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/6McV4L_K7xA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/6McV4L_K7xA</a>
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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2013, 01:03:14 EDT »

Or, as I read in an article recently, the "P-38 Mustang."  Ugh!   
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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2013, 01:08:33 EDT »

Or, as I read in an article recently, the "P-38 Mustang."  Ugh!   
I helped restore a Lightning for the CAF when I was stationed in LA.  A year or so later it crashed during an airshow.
Kelly Johnson didn't miss on too many designs.
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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2013, 02:49:39 EDT »

My grandfather was a turret gunner in a B-17...til he had enough senority to move to a side gunner.. He told some gruesome stories of what happened to guys who were shot in a turret....usually involved shoveling the man out. He said he was lucky because the first mission he flew after moving positions, the new belly gunner caught a bullet and.....not much was left of him. Guess i liked those the best...and the men who flew in them.
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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2013, 03:35:51 EDT »

My grandfather was a turret gunner in a B-17...til he had enough senority to move to a side gunner.. He told some gruesome stories of what happened to guys who were shot in a turret....usually involved shoveling the man out. He said he was lucky because the first mission he flew after moving positions, the new belly gunner caught a bullet and.....not much was left of him. Guess i liked those the best...and the men who flew in them.

40 miles from me in Halls, Tn. is an old B-17 WWII training base and museum. The base was the largest B-17 training base in America. If you are ever in the area it's worth the visit.

http://www.dyaab.us/dyaabmuseum.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyersburg_Army_Air_Base
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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2013, 04:10:15 EDT »

Have flown in and out of there many times ....many years ago.
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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2013, 04:41:31 EDT »

What's really neat about the Red Bull "P-38" is that it's an early model (actually the F-5 photo-recce version of the P-38F). Beautiful aircraft!
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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2013, 03:53:10 EDT »

Those propellers freaked me out. 
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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2013, 04:09:14 EDT »

Those propellers freaked me out.  

Cameras can make spinning propellers look VERY strange.  

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« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2013, 06:23:50 EDT »

Cameras can make spinning propellers look VERY strange.  


Must have been a VERY hard landing to bend those pros like that 
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« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2013, 06:24:54 EDT »

What was it that Pappy Boyington flew?  I thought they looked cool but heard that it wasnt the best fighter we had.  
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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2013, 10:13:38 EDT »

What was it that Pappy Boyington flew?  I thought they looked cool but heard that it wasnt the best fighter we had.  

That would be the other plane in the video, the Chance Vought F4U Corsair.  Love that plane.  In fact, the P-38 and Corsair are two of my favorites.   
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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2013, 10:17:23 EDT »

Must have been a VERY hard landing to bend those pros like that 

Believe it or not, I had one of my better landings that day, and there was an aerobatic pilot friend at the hold short line when I arrived.  He didn't know it was me but said later that it was one of the best landings he had seen there that weekend.    So there!         I took a rusty pilot course recently and hope to get back in the air before the end of the summer.  We'll see.
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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2013, 10:19:33 EDT »

Believe it or not, I had one of my better landings that day, and there was an aerobatic pilot friend at the hold short line when I arrived.  He didn't know it was me but said later that it was one of the best landings he had seen there that weekend.    So there!         I took a rusty pilot course recently and hope to get back in the air before the end of the summer.  We'll see.
I was going to ask if you had flown recently.  While it is expensive I due miss flying, a lot.
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« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2013, 10:21:39 EDT »

That would be the other plane in the video, the Chance Vought F4U Corsair.  Love that plane.  In fact, the P-38 and Corsair are two of my favorites.   
The leading ace of WWII , Richard Bong, flew a P-38
Also, it was P-38s that flew the  mission to shoot down Yamamoto after a very long range flight.
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—T. E. Lawrence,
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"If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly." - David Hackworth

"Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet"
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« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2013, 10:22:18 EDT »

What's really neat about the Red Bull "P-38" is that it's an early model (actually the F-5 photo-recce version of the P-38F). Beautiful aircraft!
The P-38 we restored was a Lima model.
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May act their dream with open eyes, to make it Possible.
This I did.
—T. E. Lawrence,
The Seven Pillars of Wisdom
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"If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly." - David Hackworth

"Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet"
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« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2013, 03:26:13 EDT »

The P-38 we restored was a Lima model.

That's what I miss most from leaving DC area. Doing volunteer work at Smithsonian Air and Space, I got to communicate with a lot of folks all over the world who were doing A/C restoration work. When we visited our niece in Dallas, I got to schmooze with the guys keeping up the B-24 for the CAF. Wife and niece were bored, but patient while I spent an hour talking shop!
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