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Title: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: murfvol on October 24, 2021, 12:53:42 EDT
Go Big Orange, stay healthy, etc.!


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: PirateVOL on October 24, 2021, 01:05:56 EDT
I HATE bamer!

Always have, always will :doh:


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: PirateVOL on October 24, 2021, 01:07:47 EDT
Cooper at center


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: PirateVOL on October 24, 2021, 01:11:11 EDT
Hadden at corner instead of Burrell
Taylor at the other corner


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: murfvol on October 24, 2021, 01:12:52 EDT
Life without a pass rush is difficult.

Pleased we've forced two third downs though


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on October 24, 2021, 01:15:20 EDT
Uh oh!!! Bama gonna have to bring in a backup 5* WR maybe.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: murfvol on October 24, 2021, 01:21:22 EDT
Aargh. Can't miss tackles near the goal line, but pleased the D played hard that drive.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: murfvol on October 24, 2021, 01:27:49 EDT
Great answer!


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: PirateVOL on October 24, 2021, 01:29:04 EDT
Simple option route for the TD


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: PirateVOL on October 24, 2021, 01:31:57 EDT
Note the former bamer QB had NOTHING to say after our TD? :bird:


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: murfvol on October 24, 2021, 01:42:38 EDT
Goooood night. Don't self-destruct with penalties.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: murfvol on October 24, 2021, 01:44:38 EDT
But it's great if Bama commits misdeeds.

As blatant as that was, I was still surprised at the flag.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: murfvol on October 24, 2021, 01:46:18 EDT
Payton! Yeeeeeeah!


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: PirateVOL on October 24, 2021, 01:47:10 EDT
Payton to the house!!


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: PirateVOL on October 24, 2021, 01:51:02 EDT
Burrell must be hurt, as George came in for Taylor


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on October 24, 2021, 01:51:44 EDT
The offense was on the field for about 5:30 in that quarter.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: murfvol on October 24, 2021, 01:52:24 EDT
Burrell is supposedly listed as officially out. Being without him and Taylor would be brutal.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: murfvol on October 24, 2021, 01:53:12 EDT
The offense was on the field for about 5:30 in that quarter.

That's actually not terrible for us.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on October 24, 2021, 01:54:46 EDT
At any time now, I'm expecting cramping to become a major issue for the Bama D!!!


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: murfvol on October 24, 2021, 01:58:45 EDT
At any time now, I'm expecting cramping to become a major issue for the Bama D!!!

They are capable.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: PirateVOL on October 24, 2021, 02:07:48 EDT
Why the hell can't we stop a running QB??


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: murfvol on October 24, 2021, 02:08:13 EDT
Stupid running QBs (Hooker excepted)


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: PirateVOL on October 24, 2021, 02:08:59 EDT
McElroy sure was fizzleing excited with their QB's play!


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: Coupe De VOL on October 24, 2021, 02:09:27 EDT
We got TOTALLY FUUUCCCCED by that piece of shiite spot for Bammer on the 23 on that drive.  They were easily 2 feet short of 1st down and of course these fuccking nitwit refs give it to them..  



Why are we ALWAYS getting FUCCCED on the spots.  Holy fuccccciiiinggngg hell


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: murfvol on October 24, 2021, 02:14:08 EDT
We cannot pick up short yardage. I don't mind the calls, but we can't block anything.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: Coupe De VOL on October 24, 2021, 02:14:52 EDT
our short yardage O is sucking mule dick.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: murfvol on October 24, 2021, 02:22:25 EDT
Can we call some of the Bama OL's misdeeds? That would be good.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: Coupe De VOL on October 24, 2021, 02:22:47 EDT
We really gotta put a stop to this "tackling scared" shiite.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on October 24, 2021, 02:23:34 EDT
Another run for a first down by a QB.  I've seen this movie before.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: PirateVOL on October 24, 2021, 02:25:27 EDT
Tackling the QB is approved, maybe we should try it


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: PirateVOL on October 24, 2021, 02:31:46 EDT
Theo and V Jones have played the last 2 series


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: murfvol on October 24, 2021, 02:32:00 EDT
Can we please get in sync on the snap count?


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: murfvol on October 24, 2021, 02:33:00 EDT
Needed to fry at least another minute on that last series. Go fast when if we had it at 60 seconds.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: Creek Walker on October 24, 2021, 02:35:58 EDT
We got TOTALLY FUUUCCCCED by that piece of shiite spot for Bammer on the 23 on that drive.  They were easily 2 feet short of 1st down and of course these fuccking nitwit refs give it to them..  



Why are we ALWAYS getting FUCCCED on the spots.  Holy fuccccciiiinggngg hell

Don’t forget the blatant targeting that wasn’t called. It’s never going to change. It’s only gonna get worse. It’s no longer about if you get screwed but when. This conference has zero integrity. Greg Sankey is a sack of shizzle who will do anything to protect the teams that represent the SEC’s best interests and the league’s presidents don’t have the guts to stand up to him.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: murfvol on October 24, 2021, 02:38:59 EDT
And if James Banks would refrain from doing stupid stuff when Bama is close to running out the half that would be helpful. Get some self control son.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: Creek Walker on October 24, 2021, 02:44:33 EDT
And if James Banks would refrain from doing stupid stuff when Bama is close to running out the half that would be helpful. Get some self control son.

That’s not even close to a penalty. It’s yet another BS call to benefit the conference’s darling.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: Coupe De VOL on October 24, 2021, 02:46:59 EDT
Well, maybe our offense can come out in the 2nd half and start playing like they should.

Also, maybe we can start tackling like we know we can? 

I feel happy about only being down 7 at this point.  We hit a few home runs, but we ain't playing all that great.  It seems like our D is on the verge of total collapse, however. 


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on October 24, 2021, 02:55:06 EDT
Don’t forget the blatant targeting that wasn’t called. It’s never going to change. It’s only gonna get worse. It’s no longer about if you get screwed but when. This conference has zero integrity. Greg Sankey is a sack of shizzle who will do anything to protect the teams that represent the SEC’s best interests and the league’s presidents don’t have the guts to stand up to him.

https://twitter.com/Billy_Stats/status/1452055781474439169?s=20


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: SmokeyJoe on October 24, 2021, 02:57:07 EDT
our short yardage O is sucking mule dick.

Lmao


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: murfvol on October 24, 2021, 02:59:33 EDT
https://twitter.com/Billy_Stats/status/1452055781474439169?s=20

Yep, and I think those are supposedly reviewed.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: Tnphil on October 24, 2021, 03:01:35 EDT
per usual...just letting the other team stay on the field because we can't get off the field on 3rd down..


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: Tnphil on October 24, 2021, 03:03:28 EDT
UT loves running up the middle more that Gump Pruitt did....shocking actually.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on October 24, 2021, 03:05:54 EDT
Time of possession at the half:  Alabama 20:33, Tennessee 9:27

Our D is gonna be sucking wind by the time this one is over (if they aren't already).

That will likely show itself in the second half as we get more and more worn down on D.  I really hope that I'm wrong.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: murfvol on October 24, 2021, 03:20:03 EDT
Great D to force the punts, and terrific block. A TD would have been nice, but I like the fight.

Just too many wasted plays, e.g., Warren pass and Hooker not running for a couple.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: VinnieVOL on October 24, 2021, 03:33:56 EDT
So proud of this team so far.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: VinnieVOL on October 24, 2021, 03:39:20 EDT
That’s not even close to a penalty. It’s yet another BS call to benefit the conference’s darling.

You’re talking about Banks giving the extra shove (to the ground) after the dude is out of bounds?  That’s always a late hit and penalty.   :dunno:


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: murfvol on October 24, 2021, 03:40:44 EDT
So proud of this team so far.

Preach. They could have given up points at the end of the first half, at the start of the second, and gotten their doors blown off. Despite being limited, and not even playing that well at times, the effort from all parties has been there.

Also, good to see you Vinnie!


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on October 24, 2021, 03:42:33 EDT
You’re talking about Banks giving the extra shove (to the ground) after the dude is out of bounds?  That’s always a late hit and penalty.   :dunno:
Agreed.  He was a good 3 yards OB and maintained contact.  The defender has to let him go in that situation.  It wasn't really violent, but it was excessive imo.  I don't really have a problem with that flag.  Banks has to be smarter in that situation.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: VinnieVOL on October 24, 2021, 03:43:57 EDT

Also, good to see you Vinnie!

 :thumbup:


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on October 24, 2021, 03:44:16 EDT
So proud of this team so far.
The defense, considering the amount of time that they've been on the field, has played really well.

I continue to be impressed by the coaching staff and the team.  There's no quit in them.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on October 24, 2021, 03:47:03 EDT
The defense, considering the amount of time that they've been on the field, has played really well.

I continue to be impressed by the coaching staff and the team.  There's no quit in them.

That's been a theme this season- our D holding up against all odds, even when the TOP is lopsided in our opponents' favor. Have we FINALLY found a decent S&C guy?


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: VinnieVOL on October 24, 2021, 03:47:29 EDT
The defense, considering the amount of time that they've been on the field, has played really well.

I continue to be impressed by the coaching staff and the team.  There's no quit in them.

Really pleasantly surprised by Tim Banks specifically, so far.  Can’t wait till we see what this staff can do once we get back to an SEC level roster.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: Creek Walker on October 24, 2021, 03:48:45 EDT
You’re talking about Banks giving the extra shove (to the ground) after the dude is out of bounds?  That’s always a late hit and penalty.   :dunno:

Except he didn't "shove" him. Not only is that not a penalty, but when Greg McElroy is saying the flag should've stayed in the pocket, you have extra assurance.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: murfvol on October 24, 2021, 03:49:26 EDT
The defense, considering the amount of time that they've been on the field, has played really well.

I continue to be impressed by the coaching staff and the team.  There's no quit in them.

I have zero clue how these guys are getting done, but I have immense respect for the entire D and staff. They work really hard not to give up kill shots.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: VinnieVOL on October 24, 2021, 03:52:02 EDT
Except he didn't "shove" him. Not only is that not a penalty, but when Greg McElroy is saying the flag should've stayed in the pocket, you have extra assurance.

Agree to disagree.  Doesn’t really matter at this point.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: murfvol on October 24, 2021, 03:52:31 EDT
That's a fumble. Not sure who recovered.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: PirateVOL on October 24, 2021, 03:53:07 EDT
fizzle THE CORRUPT SEC REFS! :bird:


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: Creek Walker on October 24, 2021, 03:53:34 EDT
 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

"Confirmed." Not "stands." "Confirmed."

SEC.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: PirateVOL on October 24, 2021, 03:54:12 EDT
To quote Heupel: That's bullshizzle!


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: VinnieVOL on October 24, 2021, 03:54:23 EDT
That's a fumble. Not sure who recovered.

Bryce Young did.  I’d be mad if we recovered, but… moot point.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on October 24, 2021, 03:55:25 EDT
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

"Confirmed." Not "stands." "Confirmed."

SEC.

You wanna see SEC officiating in all its glory? Keep it close against bammer in the 2nd half. :bird:


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on October 24, 2021, 03:57:57 EDT
I guy that I taught with (former football coach) says that he can't be the player to recover that fumble in the endzone.  I've never heard that before.  Anyone know the rule?


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: murfvol on October 24, 2021, 03:58:04 EDT
But what an answer!


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: murfvol on October 24, 2021, 03:58:30 EDT
I guy that I taught with (former football coach) says that he can't be the player to recover that fumble in the endzone.  I've never heard that before.  Anyone know the rule?

Interesting. I have no idea.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: PirateVOL on October 24, 2021, 04:00:04 EDT
Why do we run this fast offense?  Glad you asked.  On the 70 yard house call their corner was looking inside at the snap.  Tillman just ran a simple go route and was behind him before he even got his head turned around.  Oh, and Hooker hit him right in the hands! :powert:


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on October 24, 2021, 04:04:42 EDT
This is the third time since 2004 that Tennessee has scored 20 or more points against Bama. 

We scored 21 in 2018 and 20 in 2014.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: murfvol on October 24, 2021, 04:05:20 EDT
And the D is gassed. Oh well, still respect their fight.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: PirateVOL on October 24, 2021, 04:06:02 EDT
And the D is gassed. Oh well, still respect their fight.
yep


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: Creek Walker on October 24, 2021, 04:09:56 EDT
I guy that I taught with (former football coach) says that he can't be the player to recover that fumble in the endzone.  I've never heard that before.  Anyone know the rule?

You can recover your own fumble in the end zone but it should be a moot point. There was no video evidence to confirm that Young recovered, and Tennessee came out of the pile with the ball. Against any other team in America, that's a fumble and a defensive recovery.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: PirateVOL on October 24, 2021, 04:12:09 EDT
You can recover your own fumble in the end zone but it should be a moot point. There was no video evidence to confirm that Young recovered, and Tennessee came out of the pile with the ball. Against any other team in America, that's a fumble and a defensive recovery.
THIS!


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: PirateVOL on October 24, 2021, 04:14:21 EDT
22 has the RIGHT to that space!


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: PirateVOL on October 24, 2021, 04:18:01 EDT
Translation of the ref's call before the try:  The check cleared


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on October 24, 2021, 04:19:16 EDT
From the rulebook:
"must have a clear recovery in the immediate continuing action after the fumble to reverse the call on the field."


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: Creek Walker on October 24, 2021, 04:28:15 EDT
Heck of a fight by this Tennessee team. The final score isn't going to reflect it. It's easy to say we don't have the depth to compete for 60 minutes because it's so obviously true. But, sadly, it's a problem that's only going to exacerbate itself the next couple of years. It's quite a catch 22. We desperately need a signature win to turn the momentum on the recruiting trail, but we're so perilously thin that getting that signature win is going to prove very difficult to come by.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: PirateVOL on October 24, 2021, 04:32:41 EDT
Solon Page III lost his map on the TD, just wondering around ...


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: murfvol on October 24, 2021, 04:33:06 EDT
What's even more impressive is this was done with an extremely patchwork OL, and a limited Evans.

We've had much more talented OLs have problems with Charlotte.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: PirateVOL on October 24, 2021, 04:35:10 EDT
What's even more impressive is this was done with an extremely patchwork OL, and a limited Evans.

We've had much more talented OLs have problems with Charlotte.
Cooper has been hobbling the last couple of series as well


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on October 24, 2021, 04:39:28 EDT
Heck of a fight by this Tennessee team. The final score isn't going to reflect it. It's easy to say we don't have the depth to compete for 60 minutes because it's so obviously true. But, sadly, it's a problem that's only going to exacerbate itself the next couple of years. It's quite a catch 22. We desperately need a signature win to turn the momentum on the recruiting trail, but we're so perilously thin that getting that signature win is going to prove very difficult to come by.
We must get back to the middle of the pack SEC before we can get to the top.  

I agree that a big win is needed, but I think the most likely path to get some depth is to find some kids with ability but who are not necessarily highly rated and coach them up.  We aren't going to recruit the cream of the crop at this point, but we must have a serviceable 2-deep roster to compete week-in and week-out.

I have more faith that this staff can do that than I did at the beginning of the year.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: tshadow on October 24, 2021, 04:51:06 EDT
They will grow with what happened today.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021 again
Post by: Tnphil on October 24, 2021, 04:56:42 EDT
Our O puts our D in bad spots against good teams.....D can hold out just so long and then the gates open.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021 again
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on October 24, 2021, 05:34:07 EDT
Our O puts our D in bad spots against good teams.....D can hold out just so long and then the gates open.
That's true, but isn't it a double-edged sword? I'm not a football coach, but it seemed that all of our big plays came because the defense was not given time to get into correct alignments.  Without the up-tempo, we likely don't get the TDs and aren't within 7 late in the game against this team.

I'm not suggesting that your statement is incorrect.  Time of possession was 40:26 to 19:34.  With a defense that is paper thin in depth, that is not a good statistic but the fast-paced offense did keep us in the game longer than I expected.

I'm amazed at the effectiveness of this defense given the fact that they are so thin in serviceable back-ups at basically all positions.


Title: Re: Game Thread: Bama 2021
Post by: BanditVol on October 25, 2021, 04:42:36 EDT
We must get back to the middle of the pack SEC before we can get to the top.  

I agree that a big win is needed, but I think the most likely path to get some depth is to find some kids with ability but who are not necessarily highly rated and coach them up.  We aren't going to recruit the cream of the crop at this point, but we must have a serviceable 2-deep roster to compete week-in and week-out.

I have more faith that this staff can do that than I did at the beginning of the year.

It seems to me we are handling middle of the pack pretty well considering we dominated Mizzou and Junior. We likely will crush Vandy also.

That means by definition, we are no worse than 4th in the East - middle of the pack - and with a win vs Kentucky could lay claim to third.

Now, I realize that Vandy is the worse team in the league by a mile, and that it likely is between Junior and Mizzou for second worst. The only Wes team that either could beat is LSU just because LSU is so screwed up, and even then thats a big if.

But lets face it, Poot and Botch would have played down to the competition. Coming into this season Mizzou and Junior were our peers, like it or not, and we handled them.

Ill allow myself a slight bit of optimism. Im past trying to predict the future but I like the way this team is playing right now.