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Title: $100K bonus to the head coach for getting to the Music Frickin' City Bowl
Post by: HerbTarlekVol on December 05, 2016, 12:27:08 EST
Who drew up that contract?   :rolleyes:


Title: Re: $100K bonus to the head coach for getting to the Music Frickin' City Bowl
Post by: Tnphil on December 05, 2016, 12:58:20 EST
It's been reported that Butch is donating all of it to the Gatlinburg relief??? If true?..... at least it goes to a good...very good cause.


Title: Re: $100K bonus to the head coach for getting to the Music Frickin' City Bowl
Post by: Creek Walker on December 05, 2016, 01:47:47 EST
It's been reported that Butch is donating all of it to the Gatlinburg relief??? If true?..... at least it goes to a good...very good cause.

Nope. False Twitter rumor.   :frown:


Title: Re: $100K bonus to the head coach for getting to the Music Frickin' City Bowl
Post by: Tnphil on December 05, 2016, 02:17:32 EST
Figures.....That's why I posted, If True.


Title: Re: $100K bonus to the head coach for getting to the Music Frickin' City Bowl
Post by: BanditVol on December 05, 2016, 03:34:14 EST
I have no problem with a coach making 100K bonus for a minor bowl game.  Any bowl is better than none at all.

It's a lot of money to us mere mortals, but head coaches in the SEC scoff at that amount.    I'll be the first to say coaching salaries are out of hand, but it starts with what we as fans are willing to pay and put up with.


Title: Re: $100K bonus to the head coach for getting to the Music Frickin' City Bowl
Post by: 73Volgrad on December 05, 2016, 04:42:58 EST
Let him have the bonus. Give him a raise and extension. But agree that the raise and extension is contingent on reducing his buyout to $2M paid out over 4 years. If he does not agree, no raise or extension. Let him and his agent know that the university is not satisfied with the direction of the program and player development (i.e., the assistant coaches are bad). Let him know he is free to look around and he is free to leave with no buy out. Let him no the next contract he signs is going to include disincentives to balance out the incentives. So make money and save it while you can Butch because the new chancellor and AD will have zero loyalty and reason to keep you. 


Title: Re: $100K bonus to the head coach for getting to the Music Frickin' City Bowl
Post by: BanditVol on December 05, 2016, 07:02:08 EST
Let him have the bonus. Give him a raise and extension. But agree that the raise and extension is contingent on reducing his buyout to $2M paid out over 4 years. If he does not agree, no raise or extension. Let him and his agent know that the university is not satisfied with the direction of the program and player development (i.e., the assistant coaches are bad). Let him know he is free to look around and he is free to leave with no buy out. Let him no the next contract he signs is going to include disincentives to balance out the incentives. So make money and save it while you can Butch because the new chancellor and AD will have zero loyalty and reason to keep you. 


Sounds reasonable


Title: Re: $100K bonus to the head coach for getting to the Music Frickin' City Bowl
Post by: droner on December 05, 2016, 07:58:47 EST
According to one of Basilio's columns last week, Butch's agent was asking for a 2 mil increase on the buyout.

When I read that, it sounded like he was asking for something for which he knew UT would say no, thereby giving him a reason to leave.


Title: Re: $100K bonus to the head coach for getting to the Music Frickin' City Bowl
Post by: Tnphil on December 05, 2016, 08:29:59 EST
Right now I just don't see where Butch could go that wasn't down. Places across the country knows what resources UT puts into the program and don't do well or fail expectations it sends a message. Purdue just hired the Western KY coach......20 million for 6 years.

IMO, 2 things happen in 2017. We have a subpar season and Butch is gone not by his choice.....We have a better than average 9 or plus season and Butch leaves. Right now I'd be really surprised if he was still here after 2017.


Title: Re: $100K bonus to the head coach for getting to the Music Frickin' City Bowl
Post by: BanditVol on December 05, 2016, 10:14:53 EST
According to one of Basilio's columns last week, Butch's agent was asking for a 2 mil increase on the buyout.

When I read that, it sounded like he was asking for something for which he knew UT would say no, thereby giving him a reason to leave.

If he chooses to leave under those circumstances, good riddance.  

I have also read though, that it's not so much about the money increase as it is the vote of confidence/face type thing.  In other words, it's common to give a coach a "bump" at the end of the season, and if one is not given, it's almost seen as a rebuke.

My take...if coaches and their agents have goaded the system into accepting that as the norm, then bad on the college admins, because that's ridiculous.  On what other planet and in what other job does it work that way?  Oh wait...maybe if you consider the coach a CEO of sorts.  Hmmmm....I get it now, but any further discussion might move to PolitVol.

Having said that, after the limp way we ended this season Butch deserves a mild rebuke.  Period, dot.  If he doesn't like that, he can take his whiny arse elsewhere.

I am still pleased and appreciative of the job he has done so far this up until the last half the season this year, and I am willing to give him another year to redeem himself.  If that isn't enough, tough shizzle.  Coaching football is a MAN'S WORLD.    :naughty:

And to push back the other way, first of all the rumor that he is asking for an increase in the buyout is just that...a rumor.  And even if true, I am sure his agent adapts all kinds of positions that probably seem unreasonable just as a starting point in negotiations.



Title: Re: $100K bonus to the head coach for getting to the Music Frickin' City Bowl
Post by: volsboy on December 08, 2016, 04:52:59 EST
Any bonus should be automatically be forfeited for losing to Vandy.  :frown:


Title: Re: $100K bonus to the head coach for getting to the Music Frickin' City Bowl
Post by: BanditVol on December 08, 2016, 09:24:24 EST
Any bonus should be automatically be forfeited for losing to Vandy.  :frown:

The reality is, that would be a contract mod.  You might as well fire the guy, it would be easier.