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What do we do? debord was a disaster hire and our defense is getting worse too

Unbelievable. Debord. My God. We are screwt. Nothing we can do till AFTER next year 😕

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The OC didn't miss wide open receivers all over the field
The were getting open against the zone

I'ts  time to let some of this friendship."I worked with him at ........." go and get some good position
coaches that will make VOL Nation proud. The team is lacking BIG TIME in a couple key positions and
IMO  will not progress but regress like we are watching them do right now.  I love my VOLS  through
thick and thin but some shizzle is really hard to tolerate when it can be fixed!

GO VOLS!!!!!

We all know Dobbs isn't going to pick people apart. They didn't use what he can do....run the ball. He kept it twice all night. When the other team continuously runs clock, you don't want to go 3 and out throwing the ball and hand it back. Ugh.....

Horrible loss for our program.  We are staring 7-5 in the face and it could easily get worse.

Beating uga and/or bammer would help tremendously but at this point ....   :frown:

I heard the announcers say we were a running team. I think that's because our QB can't pass and we have no other choice.

are you kidding me? This team, coaches, fans, are totally going to be out of it now. We beat Vandy, SCe, and N Tex. 5-7

how many of these were Dobbs' decision?

Dobbs was the leading rusher last week...tonight he doesn't run. Smart!

I haven't seen any sign of progress from our returning players from last year..They ALL have gotten worse..Is a reflection of coaching.. I won't be wasting another Saturday watching this horse shizzle

Doubt many. Bringing me to my point about the coaches.

I think Dobbs needs to be benched as well.
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I like Dobbs. He is a competitor. I don't think, however, that we can be any kind of contender  with him in the QB spot. He is simply too limited as a passing threat.

I also suggest that maybe, just maybe, the staff didn't want Josh to carry the ball as much because he put it on the turf 3 times last week.

Hurd runs it 4 times in the second half? I suppose our halftime adjustment was to become a passing team.

You cannot win against decent teams without at least a minimal passing attack.   We are not now at,  and nor will we rise to,  a minimal level.   Arkansas commited 100% to run defense in the second half,  because the run is our only threat other than kick returns.   As a result,  we finally had receivers running open the entire half.   Dobbs was incredibly inaccurate tonight,  even completions were behind/high/low/ no touch throws.   The bottom line is that we cannot beat anyone who can eventually stop our running game.   Our only hope would be to go with a QB who can throw the ball,  and Butch will not make that change.   We are done.   With Dobbs,  we are 5-7/6-6.  Great kid,  great runner,  but not a QB we can win with week in/ week out.

i'd add that some FR OL need to play as well.  The starters have issues with pass protection all too often

meh.  I'm still going to hope for 7-5.  It's better for our program.  6-6 unacceptable but another losing season is a disaster. 

We're going to find out whether we want to or not.   :dunno:

i think 5-7 more likely than 7-5
We should be 5-0 but are 2-3 and getting worse as the season goes along.
I saw the fan base turn last night in the stadium.  I think the fan base will turn out Saturday but another debacle like 3 of the last 4 weeks Neyland will be a ghost town by the time the lame chickens come to town.

It was so bad the color guy commented on it during the telecast.

That's because we have veteran OL that have no business on a SEC team.

But that's what the chart said to do .....................

Florida is 5-0 and ranked 12th in the country playing Freshman at OL with a first year head coach and staff.....At UT it's a 3 year 'Process'. :bird:

Those Croc freshmen must have taken more airplane rides before they got to Gainesville.   :naughty:

Whatever else you say, Florida had  talent left from the Muschamp years, especially on D. His last couple of classes sucked but they have plenty of 4/5 star upperclassmen recruits.  Also, whatever else you say about Muschamp, the defense was not nearly in the shambles it was at Tennessee, in fact, Muschamp arguably had half a team that was up to SEC standards. 

I would say that right now, in 2015, the Vols finally have talent that is comparable to Florida's.  If it's "better", it isn't by much.  But if you compare 2015 Florida to 2013 Tennessee, it's night and day.  No way in fizzleing hell did we have anything in 2013 compared to what McIlroy inherited at Florida this year.  He inherited a really good defense and an offense that had been systematically mismanaged for 4 years.  But that happens to fit what he does best, which is coach offense.

Now...has McIlroy done a better job than Jones?  Absolutely.  He is a better coach, hands down.  But comparing 2013 Vols team to this year's Florida team is apples to oranges.

Why do you keep excusing this staffs ineptitude? What have they done that has convinced you this is the right staff? Should this team not be 5-0 right now?

Not excusing anything, take the post in context, or don't bother posting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At least I support the team, which many doubt you ever have

You might fizzleing read 'nut and my exchanges as well, before proving you are an _____!!!

I just LOL at excuses. Florida just took Ole Miss to woodshed and scored at will against a damn good OM defense. We are in year 3.....Florida is in year 1 with a new staff and a new system. Saying we are and SHOULD BE behind Florida at this moment is laughable.

I was talking about your quote about him missing wide open receivers. I am not an ______. Look in the mirror. The coach is the one who has him in the game. Dormandy might make that throw. Just sayin".

My statement remains valid!
BTW, prove to me my statement was false!
You can't, because you have no freaking clue how the game is played and can't be bothered to watch it.

I'll type real slow:  Arky primarily played zone.  Usually two deep but sometimes a cover 1, depending on our formation.  We sometimes forced them into man based on formation (see our last offensive play). 
Against the zone the receivers were settling into their zones and were open.  Most of the time Dobbs either didn't see them or threw poorly. 
On the WR pass #3 was open against man but the pass was thrown inside by a good 10-15 yards

Bingo. Dobbs didn't see them or threw poorly. The coach is the one to evaluate talent. If Dobbs can't perform against this defense it is up to the coach to make adjustments and make them change their defense. I know how the game is played and how it is coached. My question is,  if you can see this, how Dobbs didn't see the receiver or threw poorly, then why can't Jones. He is making the big bucks to see this type stuff and adjust. But he doesn't adjust.

two things: one, perhaps Jones thinks that Dobbs provides our best chance to win.  His past actions at previous stops and here tell me he is not tied to a starting QB (unlike Fulmer, who flat refused to allow a less senior play play unless it could not be avoided) and 2nd we can't really know what the reads are on a particular play.  Based on tendencies we can guess (or if one happens to be watching the QB)

Dormandy warmed up in the 3rd quarter of the UF game and it did not appear to be a game of toss, as he was firing the ball at the end.