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Title: Strong - a bit of controversy but what the hell
Post by: Volznut on November 30, 2012, 10:00:15 EST
I like controversy. He has had issues getting hired before, like Turner Gill, because his wife is Caucasian.

He even says so in this article from a few years ago

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_bianchi/2009/01/florida-defensi.html

I don't think that would be an issue with UT, but Auburn did interview him. If they didn't take Gill a few years ago for this reason (per the article) then they probably wouldn't take Strong.....or would they? Would Strong consider them, since AU could be desperate?



Title: Re: Strong - a bit of controversy but what the hell
Post by: WoodstockVol on November 30, 2012, 10:02:19 EST
I think Auburn could sign Bob Petrino. Auburn could find it very hard to hire a Coach in their current situation(NCAA) and BP wants to get back in the Major Leagues of College Football. I don't care if His(Charlie Strong's) Wife is white as long as He helps get Tennessee 9-11 wins a season within a few seasons


Title: Re: Strong - a bit of controversy but what the hell
Post by: PirateVOL on November 30, 2012, 10:04:55 EST
I don't give a damn if he can coach - and I think he can.
His team last night fought hard and found a way to win, something we haven't accomplished in awhile.


Title: Re: Strong - a bit of controversy but what the hell
Post by: murfvol on November 30, 2012, 10:07:04 EST
That couldn't be a bigger non-issue. Dropping back-to-back games is a drawback, but that's the only knock.


Title: Re: Strong - a bit of controversy but what the hell
Post by: WoodstockVol on November 30, 2012, 10:07:23 EST
I don't give a damn if he can coach - and I think he can.
His team last night fought hard and found a way to win, something we haven't accomplished in awhile.

It would be nice to have Bridgewater in a Tennessee uniform,He's got a rocket for an arm


Title: Re: Strong - a bit of controversy but what the hell
Post by: WoodstockVol on November 30, 2012, 10:08:18 EST
That couldn't be a bigger non-issue. Dropping back-to-back games is a drawback, but that's the only knock.

He brought Louisville back from the dead,which IS impressive


Title: Re: Strong - a bit of controversy but what the hell
Post by: Creek Walker on November 30, 2012, 10:10:01 EST
I laugh out loud at that speculation. Strong may feel that way, which is probably one of the factors that will make it hard to pull him away from Louisville (he feels indebted to the school for giving him his big break, similar to the way Pearl felt to UT) and maybe on some levels there is even some truth to it, but at the end of the day most people who make the racism accusations fail to look at the credentials of the coach.

Did Auburn pass over Turner Gill because he had a white wife or because they realized he was not a good coach? He had only had a so-so tenure at Buffalo. Kansas hired him and he was face-planted in the Big 12. It was so disastrous that he was fired after just two seasons.


Title: Re: Strong - a bit of controversy but what the hell
Post by: WoodstockVol on November 30, 2012, 10:13:01 EST
I laugh out loud at that speculation. Strong may feel that way, which is probably one of the factors that will make it hard to pull him away from Louisville (he feels indebted to the school for giving him his big break, similar to the way Pearl felt to UT) and maybe on some levels there is even some truth to it, but at the end of the day most people who make the racism accusations fail to look at the credentials of the coach.

Did Auburn pass over Gill Turner because he had a white wife or because they realized he was not a good coach? He had only had a so-so tenure at Buffalo. Kansas hired him and he was face-planted in the Big 12. It was so disastrous that he was fired after just two seasons.

Tennessee needs to get a big name to start pulling in major recruits again. I don't want Tennessee to be like Iowa where the best You can hope for is a winning season and a Bowl game


Title: Re: Strong - a bit of controversy but what the hell
Post by: murfvol on November 30, 2012, 10:15:39 EST
As a tagent I disagree on Turner Gill. He turned around a moribund Buffalo program and got only two years at Kansas because (conjecture coming) the Jayhawks thought Weiss could coach. That was a horrible move on their part.


Title: Re: Strong - a bit of controversy but what the hell
Post by: WoodstockVol on November 30, 2012, 10:16:35 EST
As a tagent I disagree on Turner Gill. He turned around a moribund Buffalo program and got only two years at Kansas because (conjecture coming) the Jayhawks thought Weiss could coach. That was a horrible move on their part.

Weiss would be a damn good offensive coordinator


Title: Re: Strong - a bit of controversy but what the hell
Post by: 101stDad on November 30, 2012, 10:17:51 EST
That's BS and nothing but race baiting.  Whether Strong's wife is white, black, purple, green, or pink and yellow polka dotted has zero impact on his either being or not being a candidate for the UT job.  


Title: Re: Strong - a bit of controversy but what the hell
Post by: Clockwork Orange on November 30, 2012, 10:18:54 EST
I like controversy. He has had issues getting hired before, like Turner Gill, because his wife is Caucasian.

He even says so in this article from a few years ago

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_bianchi/2009/01/florida-defensi.html

I don't think that would be an issue with UT, but Auburn did interview him. If they didn't take Gill a few years ago for this reason (per the article) then they probably wouldn't take Strong.....or would they? Would Strong consider them, since AU could be desperate?

If that matters to any of the powers that be at UT then they don't need to be powers that be anymore.


Title: Re: Strong - a bit of controversy but what the hell
Post by: PirateVOL on November 30, 2012, 10:19:37 EST
Weiss would be a damn good offensive coordinator
Disagree, he has sucked everywhere he has coached at the college level


Title: Re: Strong - a bit of controversy but what the hell
Post by: WoodstockVol on November 30, 2012, 10:23:58 EST
Disagree, he has sucked everywhere he has coached at the college level

His 2005-2006 Notre Dame teams with Brady Quinn and Jeff Samarcjah had damn good offenses


Title: Re: Strong - a bit of controversy but what the hell
Post by: Creek Walker on November 30, 2012, 10:26:54 EST
As a tagent I disagree on Turner Gill. He turned around a moribund Buffalo program and got only two years at Kansas because (conjecture coming) the Jayhawks thought Weiss could coach. That was a horrible move on their part.

He had one good year at Buffalo. He won the MAC in '08 and then finished 5-7 in '09. At Kansas he was 5-19 in two seasons. Kansas is still terrible under Weiss as far as their record but they're a bit more competitive. It took Texas Tech two OTs to beat them this year and they came within a TD of beating Texas and Oklahoma State.


Title: Re: Strong - a bit of controversy but what the hell
Post by: Creek Walker on November 30, 2012, 10:27:20 EST
His 2005-2006 Notre Dame teams with Brady Quinn and Jeff Samarcjah had damn good offenses

His 2011 Florida team had a damn bad offense.


Title: Re: Strong - a bit of controversy but what the hell
Post by: PirateVOL on December 01, 2012, 01:05:03 EST
His 2005-2006 Notre Dame teams with Brady Quinn and Jeff Samarcjah had damn good offenses
not really.  They struggled, a lot


Title: Re: Strong - a bit of controversy but what the hell
Post by: BanditVol on December 01, 2012, 01:15:30 EST
. It took Texas Tech two OTs to beat them this year and they came within a TD of beating Texas and Oklahoma State.

Theres no such thing as a moral victory!  :nono: :rotfl:


Title: Re: Strong - a bit of controversy but what the hell
Post by: Creek Walker on December 01, 2012, 03:45:48 EST
Theres no such thing as a moral victory!  :nono: :rotfl:

It's only a moral victory when you're talking about your own team. I have no stake in Kansas football so I can talk about how competitive they were in their losses.  :dance:


Title: Re: Strong - a bit of controversy but what the hell
Post by: Be-the-Vol on December 01, 2012, 04:03:30 EST
Pirate, if you think Weis's offenses struggled a lot in 2005 and 2006, you might want to stop drinking those Diet Dr. Peppers - they're fogging your brain.   :naughty:  In 2005 the offense averaged 37 points a game and ND ended the year in the top 10.  In 2006 the offense averaged 31 points a game and ND ended the year in the top 20.  If that's struggling a lot - I'd take it.   :nod:


Title: Re: Strong - a bit of controversy but what the hell
Post by: PirateVOL on December 01, 2012, 04:05:19 EST
Pirate, if you think Weis's offenses struggled a lot in 2005 and 2006, you might want to stop drinking those Diet Dr. Peppers - they're fogging your brain.   :naughty:  In 2005 the offense averaged 37 points a game and ND ended the year in the top 10.  In 2006 the offense averaged 31 points a game and ND ended the year in the top 20.  If that's struggling a lot - I'd take it.   :nod:
I can't help it if you have low standards ... :tongue:


Title: Re: Strong - a bit of controversy but what the hell
Post by: Be-the-Vol on December 01, 2012, 04:10:48 EST
Oh, I forgot...... :moon:


Title: Re: Strong - a bit of controversy but what the hell
Post by: FLVOL on December 01, 2012, 04:58:44 EST
That's BS and nothing but race baiting.  Whether Strong's wife is white, black, purple, green, or pink and yellow polka dotted has zero impact on his either being or not being a candidate for the UT job.  
This. Funny, I can honestly say that I don't even recognize skin color, just the personalities. My best soldier is black, but  really don't recognize it because he kicks ass on a daily basis. If String is the best candidate, hire him. It really is that simple


Title: Re: Strong - a bit of controversy but what the hell
Post by: VinnieVOL on December 01, 2012, 05:19:58 EST
After reading some pieces from VQ, I'd be happy with Strong.  Get Tee on staff, as well.


Title: Re: Strong - a bit of controversy but what the hell
Post by: FLVOL on December 01, 2012, 06:58:10 EST
After reading some pieces from VQ, I'd be happy with Strong.  Get Tee on staff, as well.
Me too. He would be my pick, even over JG. I liked his coaching and X & O abilities when he was with the Gators, and he's done good things as a head coach. I will be satisfied with him as our HC.

As for Tee, he would make a solid position coach. I would like to see him in about 8-10 more years, I think he could be a very good OC. Plus, that ring would be great in the living room when recruiting