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Title: This is a new way to lose a game...........
Post by: droner on February 21, 2019, 04:42:40 EST
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/recap?gameId=401083081 (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/recap?gameId=401083081)

Stupid is as stupid does.


Title: Re: This is a new way to lose a game...........
Post by: volsboy on February 21, 2019, 07:03:49 EST
Funny thing is the announcers said something was thrown on the court by a bulldog a fan. Funny thing is both teams are bulldogs. Should have got a warning first. This sucks for the bulldogs...pun intended.


Title: Re: This is a new way to lose a game...........
Post by: Creek Walker on February 21, 2019, 09:10:41 EST
That was the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen.

Assessing a technical foul because fans throw objects onto the floor en masse after a first score or something like that? I get it. Calling a game after warning fans to stop throwing objects on the floor in protest of a call? I get that, too.

But that officiating crew called a technical foul with half a second remaining in a tied game because ONE SINGLE FAN threw an object onto the floor. There are 10,000+ fans in that arena, it's obviously impossible to police them all, and because ONE threw an object onto the floor you assess a technical foul that may have determined the outcome of a game that student-athletes and coaches -- none of which had anything to do with the object being thrown -- invested hours into.

That's inexcusable and, as far as I know, it's without precedent. That absolutely cannot be the look that the SEC wants for a basketball game to be decided.


Title: Re: This is a new way to lose a game...........
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on February 21, 2019, 09:44:34 EST
That was the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen.

Assessing a technical foul because fans throw objects onto the floor en masse after a first score or something like that? I get it. Calling a game after warning fans to stop throwing objects on the floor in protest of a call? I get that, too.

But that officiating crew called a technical foul with half a second remaining in a tied game because ONE SINGLE FAN threw an object onto the floor. There are 10,000+ fans in that arena, it's obviously impossible to police them all, and because ONE threw an object onto the floor you assess a technical foul that may have determined the outcome of a game that student-athletes and coaches -- none of which had anything to do with the object being thrown -- invested hours into.

That's inexcusable and, as far as I know, it's without precedent. That absolutely cannot be the look that the SEC wants for a basketball game to be decided.

Under most circumstances, I would agree. But this was thrown at a shooter while he was in the act of shooting a critical, game-deciding FT. And he missed, likely because of the distraction. In that case, NOT calling a foul decides the game as much as calling one. What's the ref supposed to do?


Title: Re: This is a new way to lose a game...........
Post by: Volznut on February 21, 2019, 09:45:47 EST
By rules it's a technical . End of story.



Title: Re: This is a new way to lose a game...........
Post by: Creek Walker on February 21, 2019, 10:07:37 EST
By rules it's a technical . End of story.



That's actually incorrect. Administrative technicals on spectators are discretionary and typically only called when the offending behavior can be isolated. I'm pretty sure no one knew who threw the object. What's to stop a savvy Mississippi State fan from tossing an object and getting a "T" on UGA?

BDV, I really don't see any way the thrown object had an impact on the free throw. It was behind Weatherspoon, and didn't come out of the crowd until the shot was released. It didn't come into the video frame until just before the ball hit the rim. If the object impacted the shot, I'm all for it. You call the administrative T, he gets one more shot...it's basically like shooting the shot over. But, no, that didn't impact the shot.

Georgia got hosed, plain and simple.


Title: Re: This is a new way to lose a game...........
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on February 21, 2019, 10:33:34 EST
That's actually incorrect. Administrative technicals on spectators are discretionary and typically only called when the offending behavior can be isolated. I'm pretty sure no one knew who threw the object. What's to stop a savvy Mississippi State fan from tossing an object and getting a "T" on UGA?

BDV, I really don't see any way the thrown object had an impact on the free throw. It was behind Weatherspoon, and didn't come out of the crowd until the shot was released. It didn't come into the video frame until just before the ball hit the rim. If the object impacted the shot, I'm all for it. You call the administrative T, he gets one more shot...it's basically like shooting the shot over. But, no, that didn't impact the shot.

Georgia got hosed, plain and simple.

You can't really tell that for sure from the TV angle. It looked like it was thrown from pretty high up in the arena- so it probably had a pretty long travel time to reach the floor. It very well could have been flying at him in his peripheral vision as he released the ball. Either way, the ref had to make a judgement call, and I think he made the right one.

If it were a UT player shooting the FTs, and a foul wasn't called, I'd be level 10 pissed.