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Title: Where Tennessee's football coaching salaries ranked nationally in 2019
Post by: Tnphil on December 12, 2019, 06:45:07 EST
https://247sports.com/college/tennessee/Article/2019-Tennessee-Vols-football-coaching-staff-salaries-ranking-updated-USA-Today-database-140336462/


According to the updated USA Today coaching salary database, Tennessee's 10-man coaching staff had the fifth-highest combined salary ($6.985 million) in the nation, and Jim Chaney was the second-highest-paid offensive coordinator in college football this year.

Only Alabama (7,541,277), Clemson ($7.41 million), Ohio State ($7.245 million) and Texas A&M (7,145,215) had higher-paid coaching staffs than Tennessee, which was ahead of SEC rivals LSU ($6.645 million) and Georgia (6,212,935) with Michigan ($6.005 million), Texas ($5,955,699) and Washington ($5,940,048) rounding out the top 10, though the database doesn't have financial figures from private schools such as Notre Dame and Southern California.

Tennessee also joined Alabama, Michigan and South Carolina in having two seven-figure coordinators. Clemson has three.


Title: Re: Where Tennessee's football coaching salaries ranked nationally in 2019
Post by: volsboy on December 12, 2019, 09:55:24 EST
I hope our return on investment improves quickly.


Title: Re: Where Tennessee's football coaching salaries ranked nationally in 2019
Post by: PirateVOL on December 13, 2019, 12:04:53 EST
I hope our return on investment improves quickly.
You are blind as a bat and more stupid than gomer pyle


Title: Re: Where Tennessee's football coaching salaries ranked nationally in 2019
Post by: volsboy on December 13, 2019, 01:31:25 EST
3 of the 4 teams that outpay us are in the playoffs. I say they have spent their money better. What else do you see differnt :laugh:


Title: Re: Where Tennessee's football coaching salaries ranked nationally in 2019
Post by: PirateVOL on December 13, 2019, 02:18:19 EST
3 of the 4 teams that outpay us are in the playoffs. I say they have spent their money better. What else do you see differnt :laugh:
You are as fizzleing CLUELESS as the day is LONG!  You make trolls cringe!


Title: Re: Where Tennessee's football coaching salaries ranked nationally in 2019
Post by: BanditVol on December 13, 2019, 08:43:41 EST
I hope our return on investment improves quickly.

It already has, and it will continue to do so.

Like Pruitt said when he first got to Knoxville, Tennessee already has a program, they just need players.   :nod:


Title: Re: Where Tennessee's football coaching salaries ranked nationally in 2019
Post by: VinnieVOL on December 13, 2019, 03:53:26 EST
It already has, and it will continue to do so.

Like Pruitt said when he first got to Knoxville, Tennessee already has a program, they just need players.   :nod:

Pruitt's second year and we've got what, three all SEC freshmen one of them also being a freshman all American?  Really promising and this should pay dividends in recruiting.

Yeah we're paying the staff a lot, but you don't go from the roster Butch left to Clemson/Alabama/OSU in two years.  Lol, that's insanity.


Title: Re: Where Tennessee's football coaching salaries ranked nationally in 2019
Post by: VinnieVOL on December 13, 2019, 03:55:17 EST
3 of the 4 teams that outpay us are in the playoffs. I say they have spent their money better. What else do you see differnt :laugh:

You really don't know anything about anything if you really think it's possible to go from the roster Butch left to the playoffs in two years, no matter what we pay the staff.

So to say "they spent their money better" is a really ignorant statement.


Title: Re: Where Tennessee's football coaching salaries ranked nationally in 2019
Post by: VOLMAN on December 13, 2019, 04:40:21 EST
Yep. I kept telling everyone during the "Pruitt is in over his head" panic that we had a great staff and that when he inherited a team that had to be taught "how to practice" it was insane to expect SECC caliber team in 1 yr. I tried to encourage patience with the expectation that the team would be much better by mid-season. It will take 2 more good classes to achieve the depth of talent we need to be consistently competing with the top echelon.     :patriot:     :powert:


Title: Re: Where Tennessee's football coaching salaries ranked nationally in 2019
Post by: PirateVOL on December 13, 2019, 04:49:07 EST
Yep. I kept telling everyone during the "Pruitt is in over his head" panic that we had a great staff and that when he inherited a team that had to be taught "how to practice" it was insane to expect SECC caliber team in 1 yr. I tried to encourage patience with the expectation that the team would be much better by mid-season. It will take 2 more good classes to achieve the depth of talent we need to be consistently competing with the top echelon.     :patriot:     :powert:
Agreed


Title: Re: Where Tennessee's football coaching salaries ranked nationally in 2019
Post by: EmerilVOL on December 13, 2019, 05:49:09 EST
You are as fizzleing CLUELESS as the day is LONG!  You make trolls cringe!

Like I have said previously volsboy would find something to complain about if Barnes and company went 40-0 and won all the games and the National Title in Basketball.  All of us:  Wooohooooo Barnes and Company won the Natty and the Vols are the Champions of the NCAA......volsboy's hot take "Yeah they won the natty but their shorts were too long and the Tennessee on their chests looked out of size to the uniforms"

I guess his glass will always be 3/4 empty no matter how good Pruitt is as a coach or Barnes or anyone else. Since he knows everything why doesn't he take over the duties as the Athletic Director.  Oops I forgot he doesn't know everything!!!!!!!!



Title: Re: Where Tennessee's football coaching salaries ranked nationally in 2019
Post by: volsboy on December 13, 2019, 06:56:08 EST
My point is if we are paying that much it will be difficult to get a good return on investment no matter what. There are 120 teams paying less than UT does.  The Vols will have to become an SECC contender every year to come close to justify those salaries. I hope Pruitt can pull that off. How many buyouts are we still on the hook for? That is a heavy burden financially that can be put to good use when all buyouts are done. How good do you feel the Vols will have to get to justify those salaries. I would expect 9-10 wins every season eventually. Once that talent and depth gets there it could happen.


Title: Re: Where Tennessee's football coaching salaries ranked nationally in 2019
Post by: volsboy on December 13, 2019, 07:03:57 EST
You really don't know anything about anything if you really think it's possible to go from the roster Butch left to the playoffs in two years, no matter what we pay the staff.

So to say "they spent their money better" is a really ignorant statement.
They have spent their money better. Most of them do not have gazillion dollars in buyouts to pay. All of those bad hires are on the Athletic Dept. No I don't expect them to be in the playoffs very soon. But you can't justify paying that much from here on out  and just getting 7-8 win teams to show for it. Pruitt has a lot of pressure on him, that was not all of his doing, to produce. Sooner or later if we are paying salaries like the Buckeyes, he will be expected to produce like the Buckeyes. Or is that not a fair thing to expect down the road?


Title: Re: Where Tennessee's football coaching salaries ranked nationally in 2019
Post by: PirateVOL on December 13, 2019, 09:15:33 EST
They have spent their money better. Most of them do not have gazillion dollars in buyouts to pay. All of those bad hires are on the Athletic Dept. No I don't expect them to be in the playoffs very soon. But you can't justify paying that much from here on out  and just getting 7-8 win teams to show for it. Pruitt has a lot of pressure on him, that was not all of his doing, to produce. Sooner or later if we are paying salaries like the Buckeyes, he will be expected to produce like the Buckeyes. Or is that not a fair thing to expect down the road?
You are a fizzleING MORON!


Title: Re: Where Tennessee's football coaching salaries ranked nationally in 2019
Post by: BanditVol on December 14, 2019, 12:41:15 EST
My point is if we are paying that much it will be difficult to get a good return on investment no matter what. There are 120 teams paying less than UT does.  The Vols will have to become an SECC contender every year to come close to justify those salaries. I hope Pruitt can pull that off. How many buyouts are we still on the hook for? That is a heavy burden financially that can be put to good use when all buyouts are done. How good do you feel the Vols will have to get to justify those salaries. I would expect 9-10 wins every season eventually. Once that talent and depth gets there it could happen.

It's all relative.  If Pruitt gets us to annual 10-2/11-1/12-0 stage with annual in the middle of the competition for SEC East crown, he has succeeded IMO.  At that point, I would not bitch because maybe we were second to Florida and they paid their staff 10K less than ours.  Perspective.

My guess is, Pruitt could make the SEC East SECC rep two of three years, win one, and you would bitch about the time we didn't go and that we should not have lost one of two.  I can almost guarantee you would.  Whereas I would say "mission accomplished, that's hard to do in the SEC".



Title: Re: Where Tennessee's football coaching salaries ranked nationally in 2019
Post by: volsboy on December 14, 2019, 12:53:53 EST
It's all relative.  If Pruitt gets us to annual 10-2/11-1/12-0 stage with annual in the middle of the competition for SEC East crown, he has succeeded IMO.  At that point, I would not bitch because maybe we were second to Florida and they paid their staff 10K less than ours.  Perspective.

My guess is, Pruitt could make the SEC East SECC rep two of three years, win one, and you would bitch about the time we didn't go and that we should not have lost one of two.  I can almost guarantee you would.  Whereas I would say "mission accomplished, that's hard to do in the SEC".


You are right, it's perspective. 3 of the 4 teams with higher paid staffs expect to compete for the playoff every year. The 4th one is aTm. Would you honestly be happy paying our staff as much as we do and just settling for an SECe title if/when Pruitt gets all of HIS pieces in place. Those salaries warrant pressure and expectations. Knowing what our staff makes compared to others, what is the over/under for how long it takes for him to win a SECCg or how long before he is expected to.


Title: Re: Where Tennessee's football coaching salaries ranked nationally in 2019
Post by: BanditVol on December 14, 2019, 01:05:04 EST
You are right, it's perspective. 3 of the 4 teams with higher paid staffs expect to compete for the playoff every year. The 4th one is aTm. Would you honestly be happy paying our staff as much as we do and just settling for an SECe title if/when Pruitt gets all of HIS pieces in place. Those salaries warrant pressure and expectations. Knowing what our staff makes compared to others, what is the over/under for how long it takes for him to win a SECCg or how long before he is expected to.

Georgia and LSU are not that far behind us.  Bammer is the highest paid, and their results speak for themselves.  Tamu has obviously underachieved, just like us.  Actually Tamu is a great team to compare to since we both finished 7-5 this year, but guess what, our SEC record is better (and yeah, I know they played Clemson), but I'll take how we ended the season over how Tamu ended it any day.

Georgia and LSU have only made the playoffs one out of three years. Thus I guess we can conclude that they are both failures, since according to you we must make the playoffs every year, right?

On the contrary, since there are two teams higher paid than us in the SEC, we should only make the playoffs once every three years, exactly the scenario I laid out.

So your point is...?????   :dunno:


Title: Re: Where Tennessee's football coaching salaries ranked nationally in 2019
Post by: volsboy on December 14, 2019, 04:36:42 EST
Georgia and LSU are not that far behind us.  Bammer is the highest paid, and their results speak for themselves.  Tamu has obviously underachieved, just like us.  Actually Tamu is a great team to compare to since we both finished 7-5 this year, but guess what, our SEC record is better (and yeah, I know they played Clemson), but I'll take how we ended the season over how Tamu ended it any day.

Georgia and LSU have only made the playoffs one out of three years. Thus I guess we can conclude that they are both failures, since according to you we must make the playoffs every year, right?

On the contrary, since there are two teams higher paid than us in the SEC, we should only make the playoffs once every three years, exactly the scenario I laid out.

So your point is...?????   :dunno:
Not what I meant. I mean that teams that are paying that much should be in the playoff conversation every year. No they aren't going to make it every year. Hell making it once is tough. Its been the same old teams except LSU in the playoff most of the time, with Notre Dame and Washington thrown in there once for good measure. Eventually you are going to have to win something to justify that salary. Being third in the SECe will not cut it in a year or two.


Title: Re: Where Tennessee's football coaching salaries ranked nationally in 2019
Post by: Creek Walker on December 14, 2019, 04:38:39 EST
I mean that teams that are paying that much should be in the playoff conversation every year.

I know you trip over yourself to be the Voice of Reason around here but do you even believe the drivel you post? You ignore the fact that there's a process involved to building a playoff contender. It's not like someone can be paid to snap their fingers and have it magically happen overnight. :frown:


Title: Re: Where Tennessee's football coaching salaries ranked nationally in 2019
Post by: volsboy on December 14, 2019, 08:23:22 EST
I know you trip over yourself to be the Voice of Reason around here but do you even believe the drivel you post? You ignore the fact that there's a process involved to building a playoff contender. It's not like someone can be paid to snap their fingers and have it magically happen overnight. :frown:
Can't you read? I said when Pruitt gets all the pieces in place he needs to contend,  people are not going to accept being third in the SECe very long.  With those salaries why shouldn't fans expect at least a Top 10 team every year and compete for a playoff spot sporadically.  About all the other schools that pay that well expect it.


Title: Re: Where Tennessee's football coaching salaries ranked nationally in 2019
Post by: PirateVOL on December 14, 2019, 09:01:37 EST
Can't you read? I said when Pruitt gets all the pieces in place he needs to contend,  people are not going to accept being third in the SECe very long.  With those salaries why shouldn't fans expect at least a Top 10 team every year and compete for a playoff spot sporadically.  About all the other schools that pay that well expect it.
:violin:

Why do you ask, you have shown you are incapable of independent thought or cognitive thinking.period.dot.