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« on: September 24, 2019, 05:09:13 EDT »

Grain of salt required, but...

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/82rqADkfGGw" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/v/82rqADkfGGw</a>
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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2019, 05:30:39 EDT »

Nah. Phil doesn't have the political capital to make a move. The AD will go if the coach is replaced. Fulmer better hope Pruitt succeeds.
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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2019, 05:37:22 EDT »

Nah. Phil doesn't have the political capital to make a move. The AD will go if the coach is replaced. Fulmer better hope Pruitt succeeds.

I think you're right. Fulmer won't get to make the next hire. One good thing about this rumor, if true, is that it would suggest that Fulmer isn't planning on taking the job himself.
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2019, 06:08:35 EDT »

The AD will go if the coach is replaced.

Should go. I'm not convinced he will. I think he has more political capital than any of us think.

And let's pretend for a moment that Brooks is right. I'm skeptical, but just for argument's sake ... if Fulmer came to the table with a big fish that Manning had helped him land, some of his biggest skeptics whose opinion matters would become some of his biggest supporters. In fact, it's the scenario that actually makes this report somewhat plausible. Fulmer knows that he's losing the fan base every time Pruitt stumbles (which is pretty much every Saturday at this point), so he might be trying to head this thing off so that he can save his job. Remember what Thamel said this past weekend: Fulmer has spent his entire career angling for Fulmer ... sacrificing Pruitt wouldn't be beyond what he's capable of. Thamel's column was a brutal kick to the sack, but I don't think it was altogether inaccurate.
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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2019, 06:20:56 EDT »

Should go. I'm not convinced he will. I think he has more political capital than any of us think.

And let's pretend for a moment that Brooks is right. I'm skeptical, but just for argument's sake ... if Fulmer came to the table with a big fish that Manning had helped him land, some of his biggest skeptics whose opinion matters would become some of his biggest supporters. In fact, it's the scenario that actually makes this report somewhat plausible. Fulmer knows that he's losing the fan base every time Pruitt stumbles (which is pretty much every Saturday at this point), so he might be trying to head this thing off so that he can save his job. Remember what Thamel said this past weekend: Fulmer has spent his entire career angling for Fulmer ... sacrificing Pruitt wouldn't be beyond what he's capable of. Thamel's column was a brutal kick to the sack, but I don't think it was altogether inaccurate.

Political capital is how Fulmer got the AD job. One that IMO he should have never been given and one that he will leave from when he's ready to leave. Who's got the b*lls there to fire him......again?
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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2019, 12:08:50 EDT »

A few observations

Brooks teased this on twitter yesterday (Vol Alumnus) and I immediately assumed Peyton

I frankly think this is an ASSUMPTION on Brooks' part (connecting random dots in his mind)

I don't think Peyton has the time, he has a busy commercial making job

Peyton may in fact have had conversations with friends along the lines of "Pruitt is bad."  "Who would you think  would be a coach that could turn things around at Tennessee?"
Not dissimilar to our posts

In summary, not believing Brooks for a second
Though if we go 0'for the SEC again (with 4-5 blowouts) I think there is a good chance Pruitt is back to being a DC again
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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2019, 12:44:05 EDT »

Someone going through back channels is just due diligence. That seems plausible, and is different than actually doing an official search.

One of the inexcusable things about Butch's ouster was the runway was super long. There was ample time to get the right hire. Same thing this time IF Pruitt goes south.

And in a quid pro quo world, Fulmer has burned through a ton of political capital. No way he has what he did.
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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2019, 07:07:20 EDT »

Peyton had a very long meeting with John Gruden yesterday - apparently

 
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« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2019, 07:57:13 EDT »

It sucks. I'm not looking forward to another coaching change.
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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2019, 10:26:35 EDT »

Maybe consulting Peyton is not such a great idea.  He apparently checked the Yes box on Shiano.   


https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/2017/11/peyton_manning_was_on_board_with_greg_schiano_to_t.html

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« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2019, 10:27:34 EDT »

Maybe consulting Peyton is not such a great idea.  He apparently checked the Yes box on Shiano.   


https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/2017/11/peyton_manning_was_on_board_with_greg_schiano_to_t.html


You just now discovering that?
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