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Title: Rumor that a 6 yr 31.5 million dollar offer
Post by: Volznut on October 23, 2012, 02:23:27 EDT
to JG is on the table. Reported on two sites.

Again, rumor...



Title: Re: Rumor that a 6 yr 31.5 million dollar offer
Post by: VOLveeta on October 23, 2012, 02:41:21 EDT
W.O.W.  That's a little spooky... SO much money.  I'm glad it's not my decision!



Title: Re: Rumor that a 6 yr 31.5 million dollar offer
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on October 23, 2012, 02:42:45 EDT
to JG is on the table. Reported on two sites.

Again, rumor...



Sounds about right.  For that kind of money, would we be out of line as a fanbase if we expect results in year two?  I don't think so.


Title: Re: Rumor that a 6 yr 31.5 million dollar offer
Post by: VoLynteer on October 23, 2012, 02:57:34 EDT
At this point I want Gruden for the sole purpose of ticking off bammer and 'dore fans.


Title: Re: Rumor that a 6 yr 31.5 million dollar offer
Post by: Volznut on October 23, 2012, 03:10:04 EDT
At this point I want Gruden for the sole purpose of ticking off bammer and 'dore fans.

every bama fan I know on the net is jumping all over themselves trying to debunk it. They don't like it



Title: Re: Rumor that a 6 yr 31.5 million dollar offer
Post by: VoLynteer on October 23, 2012, 03:12:07 EDT
every bama fan I know on the net is jumping all over themselves trying to debunk it. They don't like it


I know...ha!! I have bammers iming me on Facebook begging for my sources.


Title: Re: Rumor that a 6 yr 31.5 million dollar offer
Post by: BanditVol on October 23, 2012, 03:18:24 EDT
every bama fan I know on the net is jumping all over themselves trying to debunk it. They don't like it



Well....that IS a plus.   :thumbup:


Title: Re: Rumor that a 6 yr 31.5 million dollar offer
Post by: 73Volgrad on October 23, 2012, 03:27:18 EDT
I believe that rumor as much as I believe ANY urban myth!!!  Get ready to once again be disappointed.

UTAD does not have that kind of money to offer.


Title: Re: Rumor that a 6 yr 31.5 million dollar offer
Post by: VinnieVOL on October 23, 2012, 03:30:53 EDT
I believe that rumor as much as I believe ANY urban myth!!!  Get ready to once again be disappointed.

UTAD does not have that kind of money to offer.

Many reputable sources have said money will not be an issue.  The Haslams just forked over a BILLION for the Browns.


Title: Re: Rumor that a 6 yr 31.5 million dollar offer
Post by: midtnvol on October 23, 2012, 03:42:09 EDT
Instant nationwide recruiting. That's a good thing.


Title: Re: Rumor that a 6 yr 31.5 million dollar offer
Post by: murfvol on October 23, 2012, 04:09:03 EDT
That's the kind of money it would take. I have no connections in Knoxville, but have heard 8th hand information this has been circulated among certain offices in Bristol, CT. I'm not sure about the money part, merely the potential Gruden could depart. ESPN has a lot more cash to toss around, but I don't think (my opinion as someone who has never met Gruden) that will be the deciding factor. If I had to guess Gruden has been offered, but probably doesn't know if he'll take it. He's got time to think it over. 


Title: Re: Rumor that a 6 yr 31.5 million dollar offer
Post by: 73Volgrad on October 23, 2012, 04:14:12 EDT
First off, where is Hart going to get the big money to hire a Big Name coach? If there were a big donor willing to pony up the cash, where were they the past four years when UT has been paying fired coaches salaries?  The answer is simple; they do not exist.

UTAD has zero cash reserves and cash flow is very bad if any of you have been listening to Hart.  UTAD has been donating big bucks to the university and this administration will never let that cash cow go in tight fiscal times.  Unless the university president is willing to let UTAD keep $5M to $7M a year to spend on coaches, all this talk of Gruden if just talk.

Once again the majority of fans are going off and losing touch with reality and imagining that dreams are now the truth.

If it is Gruden, fine.  But do not hold your breath because I just feel almost everyone will be disappointed.  Outside of Hart, a select few in UTAD and Athletics Board, and Hart's bosses. no one knows.  All these internet rumors, confidential or reliable sources, whatever...no one but Hart knows.

Remember all the sure thing rumors the last two times?  How many Defensive Coordinators were a sure thing, the deal is done, an agreement was made.... before we finally hired one?

Just remember that old saying "There's a sucker born every minute."


Title: Re: Rumor that a 6 yr 31.5 million dollar offer
Post by: ReVOLver on October 23, 2012, 04:15:27 EDT
First off, where is Hart going to get the big money to hire a Big Name coach? If there were a big donor willing to pony up the cash, where were they the past four years when UT has been paying fired coaches salaries?  The answer is simple; they do not exist.

UTAD has zero cash reserves and cash flow is very bad if any of you have been listening to Hart.  UTAD has been donating big bucks to the university and this administration will never let that cash cow go in tight fiscal times.  Unless the university president is willing to let UTAD keep $5M to $7M a year to spend on coaches, all this talk of Gruden if just talk.

Once again the majority of fans are going off and losing touch with reality and imagining that dreams are now the truth.

If it is Gruden, fine.  But do not hold your breath because I just feel almost everyone will be disappointed.  Outside of Hart, a select few in UTAD and Athletics Board, and Hart's bosses. no one knows.  All these internet rumors, confidential or reliable sources, whatever...no one but Hart knows.

Remember all the sure thing rumors the last two times?  How many Defensive Coordinators were a sure thing, the deal is done, an agreement was made.... before we finally hired one?

Just remember that old saying "There's a sucker born every minute."

I believe with 99% certainty that Gruden is the #1 target.


Title: Re: Rumor that a 6 yr 31.5 million dollar offer
Post by: VinnieVOL on October 23, 2012, 04:29:26 EDT
First off, where is Hart going to get the big money to hire a Big Name coach? If there were a big donor willing to pony up the cash, where were they the past four years when UT has been paying fired coaches salaries?  The answer is simple; they do not exist.

UTAD has zero cash reserves and cash flow is very bad if any of you have been listening to Hart.  UTAD has been donating big bucks to the university and this administration will never let that cash cow go in tight fiscal times.  Unless the university president is willing to let UTAD keep $5M to $7M a year to spend on coaches, all this talk of Gruden if just talk.

Once again the majority of fans are going off and losing touch with reality and imagining that steams are now the truth.

If it is Gruden, fine.  But do not hold your breath because I just feel almost everyone will be disappointed.  Outside of Hart, a select few in UTAD and Athletics Board, and Hart's bosses. no one knows.  All these internet rumors, confidential or reliable sources, whatever...no one but Hart knows.

Remember all the sure thing rumors the last two times?  How many Defensive Coordinators were a sure thing, the deal is done, an agreement was made.... before we finally hired one?

Just remember that old saying "There's a sucker born every minute."
 
 
So you're saying these so called big $$$ donors don't even exist?  Wow, that is news.     


Title: Re: Rumor that a 6 yr 31.5 million dollar offer
Post by: ReVOLver on October 23, 2012, 04:31:25 EDT
 
 
So you're saying these so called big $$$ donors don't even exist?  Wow, that is news.     

Also it's easy to explain why they weren't around the last two times... because they didn't believe in the AD.


Title: Re: Rumor that a 6 yr 31.5 million dollar offer
Post by: ChattanoogaVol on October 23, 2012, 04:45:13 EDT
If it's Gruden, and I personally hope that it is................................................man our recruiting classes will be the shizzle......................QB, RB, OL......... :box:........................MAY BE BACK TO KICKING ASS REAL SOON....................NOT TO MENTION YOUR PICK OF COORDINATORS

 :powert:


Title: Re: Rumor that a 6 yr 31.5 million dollar offer
Post by: VinnieVOL on October 23, 2012, 04:54:40 EDT
Also it's easy to explain why they weren't around the last two times... because they didn't believe in the AD.entire

Hart was at Bama when Saban was lured in, and saw firsthand how that hire transformed that entire seemingly overnight.  Past hiring behavior by former AD's mean nothing, imo.  Like you said, I firmly believe JG is the #1 target.  I'm still doubtful he'll accept.  But what are message boards for, if not speculation and discussion?


Title: Re: Rumor that a 6 yr 31.5 million dollar offer
Post by: Bamabiz on October 23, 2012, 05:04:45 EDT
every bama fan I know on the net is jumping all over themselves trying to debunk it. They don't like it



I welcome Gruden to the SEC. He is the type of coach that makes our conference that much better!


Title: Re: Rumor that a 6 yr 31.5 million dollar offer
Post by: Quasi EVol on October 23, 2012, 05:13:26 EDT
I welcome Gruden to the SEC. He is the type of coach that makes our conference that much better!

You can't use reverse karma on us!


Title: Re: Rumor that a 6 yr 31.5 million dollar offer
Post by: ReVOLver on October 23, 2012, 01:25:01 EDT
I have been reading around this morning and if the original info came from the poster known as OCI Vol, I would not only disregard it but laugh at it.

I don't think there is an offer on the table.


Title: Re: Rumor that a 6 yr 31.5 million dollar offer
Post by: murfvol on October 23, 2012, 02:13:16 EDT
Worst case scenario this gets coaches calling their agents because some buzz has been created about the UT job. Even if Gruden isn't hired (sure he's contacted, doubt he'd accept) it benefits us.

Hopefully the rumors will circulate for at least a couple of weeks.


Title: Re: Rumor that a 6 yr 31.5 million dollar offer
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on October 23, 2012, 02:47:41 EDT
I have been reading around this morning and if the original info came from the poster known as OCI Vol, I would not only disregard it but laugh at it.

I don't think there is an offer on the table.

True or not, that's probably about what it would take to get him.


Title: Re: Rumor that a 6 yr 31.5 million dollar offer
Post by: ReVOLver on October 23, 2012, 03:06:52 EDT
True or not, that's probably about what it would take to get him.

Will take more IMO. 6 years 42 million IMO.


Title: Re: Rumor that a 6 yr 31.5 million dollar offer
Post by: Oldvol75 on October 23, 2012, 04:18:20 EDT
Money will come from the boosters. They are fed up with the Dooley show and are following the bama model in hiring. In other words, go big or go home. No more of the up and comers.


Title: Re: Rumor that a 6 yr 31.5 million dollar offer
Post by: VoLynteer on October 23, 2012, 04:20:07 EDT
Will take more IMO. 6 years 42 million IMO.

I don't care what it takes...Gruden has to be the guy for the comic reaction of bammers and 'dores everywhere.  #chuckieorbust


Title: Re: Rumor that a 6 yr 31.5 million dollar offer
Post by: Memphisvolunteer on October 23, 2012, 04:34:22 EDT
First off, where is Hart going to get the big money to hire a Big Name coach? If there were a big donor willing to pony up the cash, where were they the past four years when UT has been paying fired coaches salaries?  The answer is simple; they do not exist.

UTAD has zero cash reserves and cash flow is very bad if any of you have been listening to Hart.  UTAD has been donating big bucks to the university and this administration will never let that cash cow go in tight fiscal times.  Unless the university president is willing to let UTAD keep $5M to $7M a year to spend on coaches, all this talk of Gruden if just talk.

Once again the majority of fans are going off and losing touch with reality and imagining that dreams are now the truth.

If it is Gruden, fine.  But do not hold your breath because I just feel almost everyone will be disappointed.  Outside of Hart, a select few in UTAD and Athletics Board, and Hart's bosses. no one knows.  All these internet rumors, confidential or reliable sources, whatever...no one but Hart knows.

Remember all the sure thing rumors the last two times?  How many Defensive Coordinators were a sure thing, the deal is done, an agreement was made.... before we finally hired one?

Just remember that old saying "There's a sucker born every minute."

73....you are way off base.  First of all, big donors do exist.  Heard of Thunder Thorton, the Haslim family?  They just paid $1Billion for an NFL team.  So don't think that big donors don't exist.  Plus I love this idea that the UTAD is financially strapped.  First of all, there are alot of accounting tricks that make nonprofits and businesses look like they are losing money.  Secondly, UTAD just combined athletic departments for men and women to save money, which is the way every other school has their athletic department.  Third, the university gives money to the school which they are not required to do.  Fourth, UTAD is self sufficient and receives no state money.  There are only a handful of unversities who are self sufficient.

Now do I think the "cash reserve" fund is low, sure.  But the same thing happened at Bama when they hired Satan.  Their cash reserves were very low but look what hiring a big name coach got them.  They are now swimming in cash. Big donors didn't step up in previous years because they didn't have confidence in the AD.  However, I think Hart being at FSU and Bama makes these people believe that he knows how to hire a big time football coach.


Title: Re: Rumor that a 6 yr 31.5 million dollar offer
Post by: BanditVol on October 23, 2012, 05:58:59 EDT
  Third, the university gives money to the school which they are not required to do. 
:confused:
 
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But the same thing happened at Bama when they hired Satan. 
:thumbup:


Title: Re: Rumor that a 6 yr 31.5 million dollar offer
Post by: Coupe De VOL on October 23, 2012, 07:10:49 EDT
Well, the rumor I keep hearing is Gruden as HC, Manning as OC, and Chavis back at DC....then, of course, I woke up.   :biggrin:


Title: Re: Rumor that a 6 yr 31.5 million dollar offer
Post by: Bamabiz on October 24, 2012, 04:42:17 EDT
You can't use reverse karma on us!

 :dielaughing: :dielaughing: :dielaughing:


Title: Re: Rumor that a 6 yr 31.5 million dollar offer
Post by: WoodstockVol on October 24, 2012, 04:45:29 EDT
Well, the rumor I keep hearing is Gruden as HC, Manning as OC, and Chavis back at DC....then, of course, I woke up.   :biggrin:

I think Gruden's Defensive coordinator with the Buccaneers was Monte Kiffin.  The former Buccaneers Coach Morris would be a solid Defensive Coordinator