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Title: We are fishing.......
Post by: Oldvol75 on September 16, 2012, 11:26:44 EDT
trust me on this one.


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: BanditVol on September 17, 2012, 12:13:12 EDT
Help me out...you mean for a new coach????  For answers???? You and your boys are fishing instead of watching the remaining games???  Or?


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: Oldvol75 on September 17, 2012, 12:19:22 EDT
UT is.


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on September 17, 2012, 12:33:30 EDT
UT is.

 :confused: :dunno: :secret:


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: Oldvol75 on September 17, 2012, 12:37:48 EDT
coach


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on September 17, 2012, 12:41:43 EDT
coach

Ok.  That's what I thought you meant.  God, I'm getting tired of coaching searches. :banghead:


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: BanditVol on September 17, 2012, 01:47:03 EDT
Doesn't hurt to be prepared.


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: VinnieVOL on September 17, 2012, 02:38:29 EDT
I can't think of any sure fire names out there to be had.

And if we're gonna go bargain shopping again, why bother?


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on September 17, 2012, 02:54:59 EDT
I can't think of any sure fire names out there to be had.

And if we're gonna go bargain shopping again, why bother?

I'd offer as high as $7M per for Chris Peterson.  Make him say no, which he probably will.  Then go after a Riley or Patterson.  Heck, maybe even Pinkel.  That would be one way to stoke a rivalry with our new conference member. :dunno:


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: VinnieVOL on September 17, 2012, 03:16:07 EDT
I'd offer as high as $7M per for Chris Peterson.  Make him say no, which he probably will.  Then go after a Riley or Patterson.  Heck, maybe even Pinkel.  That would be one way to stoke a rivalry with our new conference member. :dunno:

Gotta be a splash hire, otherwise don't even bother.  I think/hope Hart would know that.


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: CobbWebb on September 17, 2012, 04:12:14 EDT

Well, they had better land a big'un or don't bother coming to the weigh in. No more small fry coaches.

trust me on this one.


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: WoodstockVol on September 17, 2012, 04:13:31 EDT
trust me on this one.

Bring on Mike Riley,Charlie Strong or Bob Petrino


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: Screaming Eagle Dad on September 17, 2012, 07:48:02 EDT
I don't know whether to take the bait or not. But if the Vols are in the market for a new coach they better go for, and pay the money to go with it, to get a name brand coach who has proven ability, better be a big name and personally I'm not against Bobby Petrino. EVerybody deserves a second chance.


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on September 17, 2012, 07:51:53 EDT
personally I'm not against Bobby Petrino. EVerybody deserves a second chance.

Absolutely they do.  Unfortunately, this would be about the 5th chance for Petrino.  He's a proven quantity at this point.  If anyone gives him yet another chance, it needs to come at the high school level or below.  :frown:


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: ReVOLver on September 17, 2012, 08:04:39 EDT
Absolutely they do.  Unfortunately, this would be about the 5th chance for Petrino.  He's a proven quantity at this point.  If anyone gives him yet another chance, it needs to come at the high school level or below.  :frown:

If Tennessee doesn't hire him, he'll be at Kentucky. Book it.


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: PirateVOL on September 17, 2012, 08:09:44 EDT
If Tennessee doesn't hire him, he'll be at Kentucky. Book it.
Good! Then they will have to deal with the bull shizzle that goes with him
Whether it is screwing an employee, meeting with other college ADs or money bags, or leaving teams in a lurch in the middle of the season he is TROUBLE and would at the end of the day bring just more bad publicity or worse to the University.  We have had enough of that, we do not need any more.


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: ReVOLver on September 17, 2012, 08:12:16 EDT
Good! Then they will have to deal with the bull shizzle that goes with him
Whether it is screwing an employee, meeting with other college ADs or money bags, or leaving teams in a lurch in the middle of the season he is TROUBLE and would at the end of the day bring just more bad publicity or worse to the University.  We have had enough of that, we do not need any more.

I bet he turns UK into a good program even if he does derail again.


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: PirateVOL on September 17, 2012, 08:14:39 EDT
I bet he turns UK into a good program even if he does derail again.
Don't care, we don't need his baggage.

BTW remember their last big splashy offensive genius?


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on September 17, 2012, 08:15:24 EDT
Good! Then they will have to deal with the bull shizzle that goes with him
Whether it is screwing an employee, meeting with other college ADs or money bags, or leaving teams in a lurch in the middle of the season he is TROUBLE and would at the end of the day bring just more bad publicity or worse to the University.  We have had enough of that, we do not need any more.

Yep, after all we've been through the past few years, you'd think we would have learned our lesson by now.  If we hire Petrino, we deserve every bit of fallout and embarrassment that comes with him.  And when he skips town and leaves us holding the bag, we'll deserve that too. :frown:


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: Screaming Eagle Dad on September 17, 2012, 08:15:45 EDT
And if Kentucky ends up with him they'll start their own streak over Tennessee. Let me restate it. If they are fishing they better go big or go home. I'd hire Petrino and fill his contract with the strictness and accountability. Look at what he did in the short time at Arkansas. Look at how competitive and explosive his teams were wherever he's been.


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: Screaming Eagle Dad on September 17, 2012, 08:19:17 EDT
OV 75 where'd you get this information from anyhow? Boi u've ignited a firestorm!!!!!! :dude: :loco: :thumbup:


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on September 17, 2012, 08:24:33 EDT
And if Kentucky ends up with him they'll start their own streak over Tennessee. Let me restate it. If they are fishing they better go big or go home. I'd hire Petrino and fill his contract with the strictness and accountability. Look at what he did in the short time at Arkansas. Look at how competitive and explosive his teams were wherever he's been.

Given your stance in the thread about mental toughness, I'm really surprised you'd want Petrino.  This guy has screwed over his friends, his family, and every boss he's ever worked for.  EVERY one.  He thought he was getting Michael Vick in his prime.  When that didn't happen, he ran away in the middle of the night, in the middle of the season.  And THIS is the guy who's supposed to instill mental toughness in our players?  He's a snake and a coward, and he'd fit in perfectly with the OTHER high-profile coach at UK.  Let them have him.  I'd rather not sell our souls (again).


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: Oldvol75 on September 17, 2012, 08:25:11 EDT
OV 75 where'd you get this information from anyhow? Boi u've ignited a firestorm!!!!!! :dude: :loco: :thumbup:

Would love to have the freedom to say but I don't. But I do know we are in fact fishing.


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: PirateVOL on September 17, 2012, 08:27:42 EDT
Given your stance in the thread about mental toughness, I'm really surprised you'd want Petrino.  This guy has screwed over his friends, his family, and every boss he's every worked for.  EVERY one.  He thought he was getting Michael Vick in his prime.  When that didn't happen, he ran away in the middle of the night, in the middle of the season.  And THIS is the guy who's supposed to instill mental toughness in our players?  He's a snake and a coward, and he'd fit in perfectly with the OTHER high-profile coach at UK.  Let them have him.  I'd rather not sell our souls (again).
Word


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: ReVOLver on September 17, 2012, 08:28:58 EDT
Don't care, we don't need his baggage.

BTW remember their last big splashy offensive genius?

Their last big splashy offensive genius was not a proven head football coach. Petrino is as good as Urban Meyer, he's just a bigger a-hole.


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: Screaming Eagle Dad on September 17, 2012, 08:29:37 EDT
Given your stance in the thread about mental toughness, I'm really surprised you'd want Petrino.  This guy has screwed over his friends, his family, and every boss he's ever worked for.  EVERY one.  He thought he was getting Michael Vick in his prime.  When that didn't happen, he ran away in the middle of the night, in the middle of the season.  And THIS is the guy who's supposed to instill mental toughness in our players?  He's a snake and a coward, and he'd fit in perfectly with the OTHER high-profile coach at UK.  Let them have him.  I'd rather not sell our souls (again).

I see your point. But I'd still consider him.


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on September 17, 2012, 08:31:48 EDT
Their last big splashy offensive genius was not a proven head football coach. Petrino is as good as Urban Meyer, he's just a bigger a-hole.

I don't think you're giving Herban enough credit- in EITHER instance. :frown:


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: ReVOLver on September 17, 2012, 08:34:08 EDT
I see your point. But I'd still consider him.

I think a lot of Tennessee fans are going to be pissed off because his name is going to be hot in the search if they fire Dooley. Watch and see. Dave Hart is a strong personality. I would not be surprised in the least if he thinks he is the AD to control Petrino. If you are Hart, you are looking at a guy who is a dynamic coach and a great recruiter who has never run afoul of the NCAA. The temptation to be the guy to "reclaim" him might be too great.

Honestly I can see the point of those who don't want him because I think he has exhibited too much negative behavior to turn it around, but if he did he is the one coach who is out of a job who could take the existing team we have and compete with our rivals. No doubt about it.



Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: ReVOLver on September 17, 2012, 08:35:33 EDT
I don't think you're giving Herban enough credit- in EITHER instance. :frown:

Without Tebow, Meyer doesn't win a NC. He won't win one at OSU IMO. His Florida tenure was elevated by a great player. He's a really good football coach but he is not Saban. He, Petrino, Miles, Pete Carroll, and guys like that are the next tier down from Saban.

You may be right on the #badword# part though.


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: PirateVOL on September 17, 2012, 08:36:55 EDT
I think a lot of Tennessee fans are going to be pissed off because his name is going to be hot in the search if they fire Dooley. Watch and see. Dave Hart is a strong personality. I would not be surprised in the least if he thinks he is the AD to control Petrino. If you are Hart, you are looking at a guy who is a dynamic coach and a great recruiter who has never run afoul of the NCAA. The temptation to be the guy to "reclaim" him might be too great.

Honestly I can see the point of those who don't want him because I think he has exhibited too much negative behavior to turn it around, but if he did he is the one coach who is out of a job who could take the existing team we have and compete with our rivals. No doubt about it.


What about defense?  You see the state of the hawg defense after the recruiting priorities u der Petrino.


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: ReVOLver on September 17, 2012, 08:39:02 EDT
What about defense?  You see the state of the hawg defense after the recruiting priorities u der Petrino.

Their defense was good enough when his offense was good enough to stay on the field.

Also he took Otha Peters from UT. I think he can recruit defense.


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: Hollerboy on September 17, 2012, 09:24:10 EDT
Would chavis be able to recruit like we must and would he be a good choice/possibly?


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: ReVOLver on September 17, 2012, 09:31:01 EDT
Would chavis be able to recruit like we must and would he be a good choice/possibly?

He doesn't have the desire to be a head coach I don't think.

He was a good recruiter for a time but got to where he didn't want to go on the road at UT. At LSU he is able to recruit instate and not travel as much, so it works.


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: VoLynteer on September 17, 2012, 09:33:21 EDT
Let me be the first to throw it out there: Peyton Manning.


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: midtnvol on September 17, 2012, 10:18:18 EDT
Let me be the first to throw it out there: Peyton Manning.
He's busy.


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: BanditVol on September 17, 2012, 10:37:36 EDT
Without Tebow, Meyer doesn't win a NC. He won't win one at OSU IMO. His Florida tenure was elevated by a great player. He's a really good football coach but he is not Saban. He, Petrino, Miles, Pete Carroll, and guys like that are the next tier down from Saban.

You may be right on the #badword# part though.

I would throw in that even Tebow was not as good without Dan Mullen, although I must also say Percy Harvin was gone as well.  But seriously, I think Mullen had something to do with it also.  He has done pretty well at MSU considering what he has to work with.


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: VoLynteer on September 17, 2012, 11:05:34 EDT
He's busy.

Hush!


Title: Re: Re: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: ReVOLver on September 18, 2012, 04:21:38 EDT
I would throw in that even Tebow was not as good without Dan Mullen, although I must also say Percy Harvin was gone as well.  But seriously, I think Mullen had something to do with it also.  He has done pretty well at MSU considering what he has to work with.

Yep


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: Flea on September 18, 2012, 04:53:02 EDT
Without Tebow, Meyer doesn't win a NC. He won't win one at OSU IMO. His Florida tenure was elevated by a great player. He's a really good football coach but he is not Saban. He, Petrino, Miles, Pete Carroll, and guys like that are the next tier down from Saban.

You may be right on the #badword# part though.

While Tebow was a contributor, the 2006 BCS title was overwhelmingly due to the play of Chris Leak at QB and a dominating defense. I think we still win the BCS without Tebow that year.


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: JimmyV on September 18, 2012, 08:02:05 EDT
Their last big splashy offensive genius was not a proven head football coach. Petrino is as good as Urban Meyer, he's just a bigger a-hole.
Urban Meyer has 2 NC's and an undefeated seasonw ith a BCS bowl win on his resume. Petrino has nothing close to that. Granted he is good at coaching, but not sure there is anything in his resume to justify an Urban Meyer comparison at this point


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: BanditVol on September 18, 2012, 08:10:42 EDT
Urban Meyer has 2 NC's and an undefeated seasonw ith a BCS bowl win on his resume. Petrino has nothing close to that. Granted he is good at coaching, but not sure there is anything in his resume to justify an Urban Meyer comparison at this point

Well that settles it then.  We have to hire Urban Meyer.  Then you can have two ex-coaches in the SEC to bitch and moan about.


Title: If I could have my pick of coaches, I would want Jon Gruden. However,
Post by: volsboy on September 18, 2012, 02:39:09 EDT
I think he is happy in the booth. I bet he could really motivate a bunch of kids.


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: crockettman on September 18, 2012, 08:08:55 EDT
Good! Then they will have to deal with the bull shizzle that goes with him
Whether it is screwing an employee, meeting with other college ADs or money bags, or leaving teams in a lurch in the middle of the season he is TROUBLE and would at the end of the day bring just more bad publicity or worse to the University.  We have had enough of that, we do not need any more.
Agreed..we just got rid of a selfish turd full of trouble 3 yrs ago..we don't need another one..I think this team will get better and learn from this loss..is way too early to be talking about a change..I think a win against UGA,S.C or even Bama with that being a rivalry game is possible..Bray needs to step up,grow up and lead this team..Chaney needs open the play book and find a way to get the offense going..when Fla started blitzing I only saw one screen pass,no shovel passes..offense was way too predicable.....Patterson needs to get the ball more,he's a big play just waiting to happen every time he gets the ball...same with Rodgers,he is fast and very capable of taking one to the house


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: Inspector Vol on September 18, 2012, 09:23:51 EDT
Chaney is really smart but not very adaptive on the spot.


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: ReVOLver on September 20, 2012, 03:53:15 EDT
While Tebow was a contributor, the 2006 BCS title was overwhelmingly due to the play of Chris Leak at QB and a dominating defense. I think we still win the BCS without Tebow that year.

You would not have beaten Tennessee without Tebow that year. That would have given you two losses and knocked you out of the BCS championship game.


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: ReVOLver on September 20, 2012, 03:55:17 EDT
Urban Meyer has 2 NC's and an undefeated seasonw ith a BCS bowl win on his resume. Petrino has nothing close to that. Granted he is good at coaching, but not sure there is anything in his resume to justify an Urban Meyer comparison at this point

Just like the younger UT fans still take up for a coach who fizzleed us over, I can count on you to take up for Urban.

In my mind, they are similar coaches... one of them had Tebow and Harvin and one didn't. Just my opinion.


Title: Re: We are fishing.......
Post by: BanditVol on September 20, 2012, 03:57:59 EDT
You would not have beaten Tennessee without Tebow that year. That would have given you two losses and knocked you out of the BCS championship game.

Talk about frustrating games, the 2006 uf game is near the top of my list.  That 4th down conversion not only led to our defeat and an MNC for uf, it was the beginning of the Tebow legend.