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Title: Three more scholarships opened up........
Post by: droner on February 05, 2015, 12:45:41 EST
http://www.knoxnews.com/govolsxtra/football/jenkins-wharton-granted-releases-sawyers-dismissed_42943570 (http://www.knoxnews.com/govolsxtra/football/jenkins-wharton-granted-releases-sawyers-dismissed_42943570)


Title: Re: Three more scholarships opened up........
Post by: HerbTarlekVol on February 05, 2015, 12:47:44 EST
Two of those will be used by the blueshirts coming in with the 2015 class. 



Title: Re: Three more scholarships opened up........
Post by: droner on February 05, 2015, 01:13:34 EST
Two of those will be used by the blueshirts coming in with the 2015 class. 



So if I understand this correctly (and there's a good chance I don't) those former blue shirts will now count for this year and not the next.


Title: Re: Three more scholarships opened up........
Post by: LouisVOL on February 05, 2015, 01:37:51 EST
I will take a swing at this, but don't take it as gospel.  As I understand it, the blueshirts will count against next years initial counters rather than this years, but will obviously count as soon as they are on scholarship against the 85.

So if I understand this correctly (and there's a good chance I don't) those former blue shirts will now count for this year and not the next.


Title: Re: Three more scholarships opened up........
Post by: HerbTarlekVol on February 05, 2015, 04:51:01 EST
So if I understand this correctly (and there's a good chance I don't) those former blue shirts will now count for this year and not the next.

No, they don't count against either class, but they do count against the 85 total.  

Yep, it doesn't make sense, but that's how it works.  Wouldn't surprise me to see that loophole closed soon. 

They come in initially as "walk ons" but once they start practice they are put on scholarship.  


Title: Re: Three more scholarships opened up........
Post by: Clockwork Orange on February 05, 2015, 02:36:55 EST
No, they don't count against either class, but they do count against the 85 total.  

Yep, it doesn't make sense, but that's how it works.  Wouldn't surprise me to see that loophole closed soon. 

They come in initially as "walk ons" but once they start practice they are put on scholarship.  

The blueshirts do count against the '16 class.



Title: Re: Three more scholarships opened up........
Post by: HerbTarlekVol on February 05, 2015, 03:19:48 EST
The blueshirts do count against the '16 class.



According to whom, CO? 

The high school coach of one of the blueshirts told me differently, and his info came from Butch. 


Title: Re: Three more scholarships opened up........
Post by: 10EC on February 05, 2015, 03:58:13 EST
According to whom, CO? 

The high school coach of one of the blueshirts told me differently, and his info came from Butch. 

http://insider.espn.go.com/insider/story?id=10431213


Title: Re: Three more scholarships opened up........
Post by: Clockwork Orange on February 05, 2015, 04:20:15 EST
According to whom, CO? 

The high school coach of one of the blueshirts told me differently, and his info came from Butch. 

Coach Duncan is mistaken. Either he misunderstood, or Butch misspoke.

Quote from: NCAA Bylaw 15.5.6.3.4

Nonrecruited Student-Athlete Receiving Institutional Financial Aid. (FBS/FCS) A student-athlete not recruited (per Bylaw 15.02.8) by the institution who receives institutional financial aid (based in any degree on athletics ability) after beginning football practice becomes a counter but need not be counted as an initial counter until the next academic year if the institution has reached its initial limit for the year in question. However, the student-athlete shall be considered in the total counter limit for the academic year in which the aid was first received. (Revised: 1/15/11 effective 8/1/11)

This is the so-called blueshirt. They are an initial counter either in that year or in the next-- for Bruce et al. it has to be the next, 2016.