Title: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: murfvol on November 11, 2023, 09:26:32 EST GBO! Give us good Joe and a few holding calls on the Tigers.
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: volsboy on November 11, 2023, 09:33:04 EST How is their run defense? Hope it ain't good.
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: murfvol on November 11, 2023, 09:34:16 EST It's supposed to be o.k. I have decided this means they cannot stop our ground game, and am overly optimistic.
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 09:34:28 EST How is their run defense? Hope it ain't good. :violin:Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 09:35:55 EST Cool flyover
Especially since since it's son, the B-21 Raider, flew yesterday morning Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 09:38:48 EST The 1st upset?
Tennessee won the toss! Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: volsboy on November 11, 2023, 09:40:21 EST :violin: :bird:Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: BanditVol on November 11, 2023, 09:40:49 EST How is their run defense? Hope it ain't good. Decent...but we have twice faced the run D that was 1st or 2nd in the SEC at the time and shredded it. (Tamu and UK). Not worried about us running te ball. We will. :powert: Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: BanditVol on November 11, 2023, 09:41:15 EST Coach Stinkowitz is a hack. WWFDT. :powert:
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: volsboy on November 11, 2023, 09:42:14 EST Decent...but we have twice faced the run D that was 1st or 2nd in the SEC at the time and shredded it. (Tamu and UK). Not worried about us running te ball. We will. :powert: I think so. Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 09:42:26 EST We SUCK at zone!
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 09:43:57 EST Expect Trunage in at STAR
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: murfvol on November 11, 2023, 09:44:47 EST Cool flyover Especially since since it's son, the B-21 Raider, flew yesterday morning Whoa. That's extremely cool. Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 09:46:35 EST Expect Trunage in at STAR Nope, ThomasTitle: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 09:47:36 EST YES!
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: BanditVol on November 11, 2023, 09:47:59 EST Way to McCullough! :clap: :powert:
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: murfvol on November 11, 2023, 09:48:26 EST That was helpful.
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 09:49:54 EST They flat STUFFED both runs
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: BanditVol on November 11, 2023, 09:50:41 EST They flat STUFFED both runs Milton should have kept the ball on the second run....sideline was wide open. Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: Black Diamond Vol on November 11, 2023, 09:51:07 EST Thank God we didn't try to go for it again.
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 09:51:59 EST Milton should have kept the ball on the second run....sideline was wide open. don't disagreeThough the play calls were very conservative Hope Joey spotted something in the booth Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 09:52:59 EST Pearce started instead of Harrison
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 09:53:39 EST Joeseph's in on the 2nd series
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 09:57:57 EST zone
ON-L hurt Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: Black Diamond Vol on November 11, 2023, 09:58:12 EST GET OFF THE DAMN FIELD. :banghead:
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 09:59:48 EST GET OFF THE DAMN FIELD. :banghead: both ends crashing inLBs not shadowing the QB Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 10:04:38 EST 2 missed tackles in the backfield
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 10:06:04 EST Telander in thegame
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 10:07:40 EST zone again
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 10:10:59 EST We are playing a LOTof zone
I'd say 75% of the quarter Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 10:12:55 EST damn good time for a sack!
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 10:14:05 EST The timing works out,
2 TV TOs and a possession for the defense to rest Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: Black Diamond Vol on November 11, 2023, 10:15:37 EST The timing works out, 2 TV TOs and a possession for the defense to rest Thoughts and prayers up for Jackson Lampley if we score here. :inughout: Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: Black Diamond Vol on November 11, 2023, 10:20:03 EST WOW
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: murfvol on November 11, 2023, 10:20:41 EST Great catch. Should have been interference too.
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: Black Diamond Vol on November 11, 2023, 10:22:02 EST Really can't afford to lose another WR. :frown:
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 10:22:37 EST Great catch. Should have been interference too. 2 more TOs for defese resttTitle: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 10:23:11 EST Really can't afford to lose another WR. :frown: Out for the yearNever used the foot all the way to the tent Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 10:23:53 EST TMac looks out for the game
Similar toHAdden's injury? Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 10:25:27 EST The LB never covered him
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 10:26:12 EST GJ-L hurt
Can't afford that Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 10:26:49 EST 2 plays in man
0 in good coverage Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 10:28:25 EST seems ok
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 10:29:50 EST our defense is being shredded
Title: What defense? Post by: Evol Knievol on November 11, 2023, 10:32:42 EST :banghead:
Title: Here we go again with the penaltys Post by: Evol Knievol on November 11, 2023, 10:38:15 EST :bird:
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: Black Diamond Vol on November 11, 2023, 10:38:50 EST Video is on twitter of Shrader straight-out gut-punching Pearce.
Send in a walk-on to injure that MFer. :bird: Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: murfvol on November 11, 2023, 10:41:14 EST What a punt and coverage
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 10:43:20 EST that is 2-3 plays we weren't ready at the snap
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 10:45:00 EST twice we haven't covered the wheel route
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 10:47:03 EST why the TO?
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 10:50:24 EST Wright back in
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: murfvol on November 11, 2023, 10:51:08 EST Run Joe
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 10:52:10 EST hope squirrel is ok
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: droner on November 11, 2023, 10:52:32 EST Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: murfvol on November 11, 2023, 10:52:56 EST why the TO? Best I can figure is getting the defense a breather if we'd gone three and out Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 10:53:15 EST Joe has been sharp
maybe 1 bad throw Needs to be more decisive in running Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: murfvol on November 11, 2023, 10:53:23 EST Listen to Droner.
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: murfvol on November 11, 2023, 10:56:28 EST Legit fumble, but difficult to hold on to. It hurts, but not throwimg rocks at Wright.
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: volsboy on November 11, 2023, 10:59:35 EST defense needs to step up. They are pushing us pretty good.
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: murfvol on November 11, 2023, 11:00:20 EST Going into halftime down only one score after a suboptimal half is acceptable, but it would have been nice to be tied. Ugh
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: volsboy on November 11, 2023, 11:03:44 EST Lets see if Heupel can make some worthwhile adjustments. Offensively, we were spoiled by last years team. Let's see if Huepel can coach when things get tough.
Title: One guy is carrying their team on offense. Post by: Evol Knievol on November 11, 2023, 11:08:58 EST We might put a spy on him. As far as the offense JH needs to figure something out with that offensive mind of his. The quick slant seems to be working.
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: murfvol on November 11, 2023, 11:10:02 EST Hyperbole alert: we have to win today or Joe's career ends as soon as UGA goes up two scores in the second half.
Hopefully none of the above occur, and Joe goes the whole way for us. Title: Re: One guy is carrying their team on offense. Post by: murfvol on November 11, 2023, 11:10:49 EST We might put a spy on him. As far as the offense JH needs to figure something out with that offensive mind of his. The quick slant seems to be working. Agree. There's a solid cushion much of the time. Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: murfvol on November 11, 2023, 11:22:57 EST Boundary option?
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: CrossVol on November 11, 2023, 11:23:45 EST Our coaching stinks.
Title: Why a cute play to the short side. STUPID Post by: Evol Knievol on November 11, 2023, 11:25:27 EST :banghead:
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 11:27:09 EST same exact BUST in zone as the 1st quarter
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: Black Diamond Vol on November 11, 2023, 11:27:22 EST TWO holds uncalled on that play. :bird:
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: murfvol on November 11, 2023, 11:29:29 EST Walker blow that coverage?
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 11:30:35 EST so much for defensive adjustments :bird:
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: FLVOL on November 11, 2023, 11:30:45 EST We aren't going to win with Joe
Title: We aren?t going to win with this defense Post by: Evol Knievol on November 11, 2023, 11:31:52 EST We aren't going to win with Joe Title: Re: We aren?t going to win with this defense Post by: FLVOL on November 11, 2023, 11:33:47 EST Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: volsboy on November 11, 2023, 11:35:14 EST I still say defense will never be a shut down one under Heupel. Also poor tackling reflects coaching. Hope he can coach up the offense or recruit to offset it. That's what happened last year
Title: Make a stop and you remedy that Post by: Evol Knievol on November 11, 2023, 11:35:41 EST They've been on the field ALL day Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: volsboy on November 11, 2023, 11:38:54 EST Sucks to turn on Heupel when things get tough. I like him. But that's the nature of the business.
Title: Re: Make a stop and you remedy that Post by: FLVOL on November 11, 2023, 11:39:02 EST Score more and it makes it easier to get a stop Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: murfvol on November 11, 2023, 11:40:01 EST We got nothing from our pick or final drive of the first half. Those could account for a nine point delta.
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 11:41:43 EST Being out coached and out played today
Title: True but 19 play drives in the first half isn?t on the offense Post by: Evol Knievol on November 11, 2023, 11:41:49 EST Score more and it makes it easier to get a stop Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: CrossVol on November 11, 2023, 11:43:08 EST Sucks to turn on Heupel when things get tough. I like him. But that's the nature of the business. This is a reflection of poor coaching. White needs to be having conversations with Heupel that this ain?t cutting it.Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 11:43:17 EST Herring :nono:
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: murfvol on November 11, 2023, 11:43:36 EST Horrific play by Herring
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: murfvol on November 11, 2023, 11:44:33 EST Herring :nono: He can get a pass for being overaggressive in Mizzou's last TD, but that's pathetic. Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 11:45:15 EST that was funny
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: FLVOL on November 11, 2023, 11:49:11 EST We have to score
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: murfvol on November 11, 2023, 11:50:18 EST If we're going 8-4 everyone on the field better be on the team next year.
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 11:51:41 EST Crawford has been in for Campbell this half
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: murfvol on November 11, 2023, 11:52:59 EST The defense has been poor, but 22 points allowed through three quarters shouldn't be a killer.
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: BanditVol on November 11, 2023, 11:53:21 EST Legit fumble, but difficult to hold on to. It hurts, but not throwimg rocks at Wright. He has been great holding on to ball all season, that was just very lucky hit by Mizzou Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 11:55:41 EST bad throw
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: Black Diamond Vol on November 11, 2023, 11:56:56 EST This isn't on Milton, he's done all they've asked of him today. Though I do wish they'd trust him with more. He's earned it.
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 11:57:00 EST why the fizzle does ONLY our team get caled for holding
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 11:57:36 EST This isn't on Milton, he's done all they've asked of him today. Though I do wish they'd trust him with more. He's earned it. disagree to an extentTitle: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 11, 2023, 11:58:55 EST disagree to an extent Joe has been unsettled a lot todayTitle: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: Black Diamond Vol on November 11, 2023, 11:59:22 EST why the fizzle does ONLY our team get caled for holding It's so damn obvious at this point. Next week, we might break the record for penalty yardage differential. :bird: Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: murfvol on November 12, 2023, 12:00:03 EST This isn't on Milton, he's done all they've asked of him today. Though I do wish they'd trust him with more. He's earned it. He hasn't been atrocious, but neither has he made plays. WRs have made some nice catches. He's been serviceable, but 7 points through three quarters isn't getting it done. Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 12, 2023, 12:00:08 EST Barron makes a play
his first? Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: BanditVol on November 12, 2023, 12:00:55 EST We got nothing from our pick or final drive of the first half. Those could account for a nine point delta. Just really bad luck on the Wright fumble. Otherwise its 10-10, if not 14-10 Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: BanditVol on November 12, 2023, 12:02:15 EST Herring :nono: He is KILLING us. At least 4 plays today I noted he was too slow. Or at least 3, on one replay he was farther away from the play initially than I thought, but on that one, he still could have gotten there sooner. He is too slow for an SEC LB IMO. Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 12, 2023, 12:03:59 EST I'm out
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: BanditVol on November 12, 2023, 12:04:13 EST Let's hold them at thee one here...on that last play no. 7 was hit in the end zone
shizzle. As I type that shizzle QB runs for another first down. GOD DAMN IT VOLS! GET YOUR fizzleING HEADS OUT OF YOUR ASSES! Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: Black Diamond Vol on November 12, 2023, 12:05:59 EST He hasn't been atrocious, but neither has he made plays. WRs have made some nice catches. He's been serviceable, but 7 points through three quarters isn't getting it done. Like I said, I think he's being held back from attempting the riskier throws (over the middle and such). That may have been justified earlier in the season, but they need to take the shackles off now. Our defense is now depleted and incapable of winning games by themselves (not to mention they're being held with impunity). Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 12, 2023, 12:06:23 EST I like jam on my pancakes
Title: I?m done with this shi*show Post by: Evol Knievol on November 12, 2023, 12:07:43 EST :banghead:
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: wtkvol on November 12, 2023, 12:09:36 EST I'm out You are the smart one. we don?t look like we want to go tackle any body. We ldo try as they go by us Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: Black Diamond Vol on November 12, 2023, 12:15:31 EST Oh look, another "exception" to the rule that a play can't be stopped for review once the ball is snapped. So weird how it only ever benefits our opponents and not us. :bird:
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: BanditVol on November 12, 2023, 12:15:50 EST :frown: :hurl: :banghead:
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: BanditVol on November 12, 2023, 12:20:23 EST Bullshizzle face mask call....not that it matters now
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: Black Diamond Vol on November 12, 2023, 12:20:42 EST I fault our coaches for not sending someone in to shred Shrader's knee in the first half.
Yes, I said it. You sucker punch one of our guys, you're fair game. :bird: Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: murfvol on November 12, 2023, 12:22:26 EST I went to eat ice cream to improve my mood. Upon returning our situation seems even more dire
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: wtkvol on November 12, 2023, 12:27:20 EST I fault our coaches for not sending someone in to shred Shrader's knee in the first half. Yes, I said it. You sucker punch one of our guys, you're fair game. :bird: A better plan would be to play defense like you care. Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: 10EC on November 12, 2023, 12:27:43 EST The left side of the defense has been torched over and over all day. No changes. No adjustments. I do not understand.
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: droner on November 12, 2023, 12:32:37 EST I hate to say this about a player but Milton just doesn't seem to have a high football IQ.
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: wtkvol on November 12, 2023, 12:35:59 EST I hate to say this about a player but Milton just doesn't seem to have a high football IQ. He can?t? But he is only part of our problem. Which probably goes all the way to thr top. Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: CrossVol on November 12, 2023, 12:52:06 EST Heupel is not the guy. I hate to say it but I hope I?m wrong.
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: 10EC on November 12, 2023, 12:58:39 EST Heupel is not the guy. I hate to say it but I hope I?m wrong. Oh my fizzleing God?. Just stop that shizzle. Please. Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: FLVOL on November 12, 2023, 01:02:19 EST Heupel is not the guy. I hate to say it but I hope I?m wrong. :rolleyes:Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: VinnieVOL on November 12, 2023, 01:24:39 EST Heupel is not the guy. I hate to say it but I hope I?m wrong. cmon man. :beer: Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: BanditVol on November 12, 2023, 03:04:16 EST Heupel is not the guy. I hate to say it but I hope I?m wrong. Already? :dielaughing: Lighten up Francis...still by far the best since Fulmer. Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: volsboy on November 12, 2023, 03:49:51 EST This is what we'll get until Heupel gets a clue about defense and hires coaches that can coach it. He will not win an SEC title. Last year was his ceiling. He will be a 9-3 type coach. Which is fine if that's all you want He is too one sided toward offense and will always suffer on the D side of the ball. Mizzou and Bama are the only two offenses we have played with any kind of punch. That's why the defensive numbers have been kind of misleading. Yet you folks act like they are the second coming of the Steel Curtain. It didn't take much to improve over last years defense. Hopefully they can get off to a quick start against UGa and make it a good game. If things change and Heupel proves me wrong I will admit it. I thought he was a QB guru. He ain't fixed Milton. :dunno:
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: volsboy on November 12, 2023, 03:53:19 EST Heupel is now 1-10 when trailing at halftime. What does that say about his halftime adjustments?
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: volsboy on November 12, 2023, 03:58:14 EST Most teams improve a lot as the season goes. This team hasn't so much. Seems UGa and Bama have. UGa seems to play as good as they need to.
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: droner on November 12, 2023, 03:58:43 EST This is what we'll get until Heupel gets a clue about defense and hires coaches that can coach it. He will not win an SEC title. Last year was his ceiling. He will be a 9-3 type coach. Which is fine if that's all you want He is too one sided toward offense and will always suffer on the D side of the ball. Mizzou and Bama are the only two offenses we have played with any kind of punch. That's why the defensive numbers have been kind of misleading. Yet you folks act like they are the second coming of the Steel Curtain. It didn't take much to improve over last years defense. Hopefully they can get off to a quick start against UGa and make it a good game. If things change and Heupel proves me wrong I will admit it. I thought he was a QB guru. He ain't fixed Milton. :dunno: Milton can't be fixed. He is what he is. Plenty of arm and heart but doesn't seem to understand the nuances of the offense. Even I could see when he handed off the ball when he should have run or passed it. And I'm no QB guru. Our offense demands more from a QB than physical talent. Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: FLVOL on November 12, 2023, 04:11:36 EST Milton can't be fixed. He is what he is. Plenty of arm and heart but doesn't seem to understand the nuances of the offense. Even I could see when he handed off the ball when he should have run or passed it. And I'm no QB guru. Our offense demands more from a QB than physical talent. Yed Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: 10EC on November 12, 2023, 04:12:45 EST This is what we'll get until Heupel gets a clue about defense and hires coaches that can coach it. He will not win an SEC title. Last year was his ceiling. He will be a 9-3 type coach. Which is fine if that's all you want He is too one sided toward offense and will always suffer on the D side of the ball. Mizzou and Bama are the only two offenses we have played with any kind of punch. That's why the defensive numbers have been kind of misleading. Yet you folks act like they are the second coming of the Steel Curtain. It didn't take much to improve over last years defense. Hopefully they can get off to a quick start against UGa and make it a good game. If things change and Heupel proves me wrong I will admit it. I thought he was a QB guru. He ain't fixed Milton. :dunno: Do you realize the lack of depth and skill players we came from? We FINALLY are going to have a high rated class this year. He has gotten more out of less than anyone in the country. We are fine. Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: murfvol on November 12, 2023, 04:14:41 EST Well said. We were fortunate on the (correct) call on passing at the line of scrimmage, but it's indicative of how slowly things are seen.
Ditto the option to start the second half. Also, nothing good happens after a juke. He's gotta just go. Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 12, 2023, 04:16:47 EST Well said. We were fortunate on the (correct) call on passing at the line of scrimmage, but it's indicative of how slowly things are seen. we have been running the option a few times a game the last few weeksDitto the option to start the second half. Also, nothing good happens after a juke. He's gotta just go. Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: VinnieVOL on November 12, 2023, 04:48:47 EST Milton can't be fixed. He is what he is. Plenty of arm and heart but doesn't seem to understand the nuances of the offense. Even I could see when he handed off the ball when he should have run or passed it. And I'm no QB guru. Our offense demands more from a QB than physical talent. Yep Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: BanditVol on November 12, 2023, 04:55:17 EST Milton can't be fixed. He is what he is. Plenty of arm and heart but doesn't seem to understand the nuances of the offense. Even I could see when he handed off the ball when he should have run or passed it. And I'm no QB guru. Our offense demands more from a QB than physical talent. yup Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: Tnphil on November 12, 2023, 06:20:31 EST Running a option to the short side is stupid. And....GitmoMilton can't run a option if he had 200 yards to run it. He looks like a spider money cracking a basketball trying to run it.
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: murfvol on November 12, 2023, 01:40:43 EST Running a option to the short side is stupid. And....GitmoMilton can't run a option if he had 200 yards to run it. He looks like a spider money cracking a basketball trying to run it. This is the problem. Short side options require a decisive cut by the QB that either hits a crease or collapses the edge, leaving the pitch man uncovered. Milton just goes down the line and runs out of real estate, which lets the defense string it out without committing. Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: Tnphil on November 12, 2023, 03:56:40 EST This is the problem. Short side options require a decisive cut by the QB that either hits a crease or collapses the edge, leaving the pitch man uncovered. Milton just goes down the line and runs out of real estate, which lets the defense string it out without committing. 100 percent correct.....Whoever designed that play with GitmoMilton needs to be dipped in a outdoor toilet and then shot for stinking. Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: BanditVol on November 12, 2023, 05:05:45 EST This is what we'll get until Heupel gets a clue about defense and hires coaches that can coach it. He will not win an SEC title. Last year was his ceiling. He will be a 9-3 type coach. Which is fine if that's all you want He is too one sided toward offense and will always suffer on the D side of the ball. Mizzou and Bama are the only two offenses we have played with any kind of punch. That's why the defensive numbers have been kind of misleading. Yet you folks act like they are the second coming of the Steel Curtain. It didn't take much to improve over last years defense. Hopefully they can get off to a quick start against UGa and make it a good game. If things change and Heupel proves me wrong I will admit it. I thought he was a QB guru. He ain't fixed Milton. :dunno: This is full of your usual distortions. No one has said that this is the "second coming of the Steel curtain", just that it is greatly improved. And it is. Numbers don't lie. We have gone from 94th in the country in scoring D to top 30, and from almost dead last in passing defense (128th!) to 69th. I'm not saying 69th is great, but it's a whole helluva lot better than last year. Defense was bad yesterday and still held them under 30 defensive points as pointed out above. Last year teams scored a lot more on us, period, dot. That doesn't mean the defense doesn't have quite a ways to go...it does. What we let that no. 7 do to us yesterday is unforgivable. But yesterday wasn't mostly on the D....the offense truly stunk it up. I guess Joe Milton never did truly get it together. He has tremendous physical skills and even strings together some good stats for a half or even a full game sometimes, but he just doesn't seem to be the type that knows how to lead teams to a win. Plays scared a lot of the time. It's too bad. Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: volsboy on November 13, 2023, 08:24:48 EST This is full of your usual distortions. No one has said that this is the "second coming of the Steel curtain", just that it is greatly improved. And it is. Numbers don't lie. We have gone from 94th in the country in scoring D to top 30, and from almost dead last in passing defense (128th!) to 69th. I'm not saying 69th is great, but it's a whole helluva lot better than last year. If you want to win titles, SEC or whatever title, those numbers won't cut it. Don't you think most playoff teams will have better defensive rankings? Bottom line, the D will need to improve about the same amount again next year to contend. When have offensive leaning coaches like Heupel ever had shut down defenses? He will not ever with the staff he has right now. Heupel is a "let's outscore the other team' type coach. Always has been, always will be. If the offense struggles you are in trouble. Just as you stated. He needs to find a great defensive coordinator and just coach the offense. Hopefully, Nico is the guy to have an dynamic offense with. If he is the guy, why isn't he starting already? I expect Heupel to explain that. He knows Milton is not the guy. You can tell by how is afraid to make certain calls in the red zone. What is his excuse for Nico? Defense was bad yesterday and still held them under 30 defensive points as pointed out above. Last year teams scored a lot more on us, period, dot. That doesn't mean the defense doesn't have quite a ways to go...it does. What we let that no. 7 do to us yesterday is unforgivable. But yesterday wasn't mostly on the D....the offense truly stunk it up. I guess Joe Milton never did truly get it together. He has tremendous physical skills and even strings together some good stats for a half or even a full game sometimes, but he just doesn't seem to be the type that knows how to lead teams to a win. Plays scared a lot of the time. It's too bad. , wouldn't he be starting already. Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: BanditVol on November 14, 2023, 03:48:02 EST Running a option to the short side is stupid. And....GitmoMilton can't run a option if he had 200 yards to run it. He looks like a spider money cracking a basketball trying to run it. True about the short side...had the same thought myself. Not sure why the staff called that, unless they thought it would be a surprise. As to Milton, your observation may be true, but we have had success with it in other games. Bad call on that first play though. Not a great way to set the stage for the half. Would rather have seen a quick out or even a run up the middle. Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: volsboy on November 16, 2023, 12:45:29 EST Speaking of winning SEC titles. We already have to usually beat UF, Bama and UGa all in the same season to win a title. Now we are throwing Texas and OU into the mix won't make it easier. The upcoming schedules are going to be a cluster. The 12 team playoff won't hurt us on that front.
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: BanditVol on November 16, 2023, 01:00:19 EST Speaking of winning SEC titles. We already have to usually beat UF, Bama and UGa all in the same season to win a title. Now we are throwing Texas and OU into the mix won't make it easier. The upcoming schedules are going to be a cluster. The 12 team playoff won't hurt us on that front. No more divisions actually makes it easier. In fact, with the twelve game playoff I think an 11-1 team excluded from the SECC could still make it, assuming the one loss was close. Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: volsboy on November 16, 2023, 01:12:29 EST The thing that I don't get is with 12 teams you may get a three loss team in the playoff. Haven't they already proven they are not the best team?
Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on November 16, 2023, 02:18:03 EST Iirc, in 2024 we do not play Bama, UGA, or OU.
Brain fart! I meant 2025. Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 16, 2023, 02:23:05 EST Iirc, in 2024 we do not play Bama, UGA, or OU. We play bamer and we travel to Norman to play OU and Athens to play UGATitle: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on November 16, 2023, 05:07:39 EST We play bamer and we travel to Norman to play OU and Athens to play UGA Yep. My bad. I meant to say 2025. Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: PirateVOL on November 16, 2023, 01:57:24 EST Yep. My bad. I meant to say 2025. I only knew because we are planing to go to OKC/Norman for the game next yearTitle: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: BanditVol on November 16, 2023, 02:05:15 EST We play bamer and we travel to Norman to play OU and Athens to play UGA ouch Title: Re: Game Thread: Mizzou 2023 Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on November 17, 2023, 02:32:33 EST I only knew because we are planing to go to OKC/Norman for the game next year Thanks for the heads up! 👍🏻 |