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Title: UNC skates. I'm shocked. SHOCKED, I tell you.*
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on October 13, 2017, 04:07:59 EDT
  :frown:


Title: Re: UNC skates. I'm shocked. SHOCKED, I tell you.*
Post by: 73Volgrad on October 13, 2017, 05:15:03 EDT
If it is not NCAA responsibility to ensure its member schools do not commit academic fraud, then why can they establish academic standards for eligibility? Like you I am "shocked" that NCAA is not punishing is billion$ cash cow basketball program. And if that had been UNC-Wilmington, does anyone believe it would have been the same outcome? I sense Donnie T will get 10 more show-cause years added soon.


Title: Re: UNC skates. I'm shocked. SHOCKED, I tell you.*
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on October 13, 2017, 05:38:34 EDT
The NCAA's rationale is, "some regular students also took the fake classes, so it wasn't an exclusive benefit to athletes".  So I guess by that reasoning, a booster could give out $1000 handshakes to athletes, and as long as they do the same for a few non-athletes, it's all on the up and up? :frown:

When you compare this case to what the Feds dropped a couple weeks ago, it really shows how impotent the NCAA is.  Maybe they should just shut down their compliance and enforcement offices and turn those functions over the the government.


Title: Re: UNC skates. I'm shocked. SHOCKED, I tell you.*
Post by: BanditVol on October 13, 2017, 10:15:52 EDT
If it is not NCAA responsibility to ensure its member schools do not commit academic fraud, then why can they establish academic standards for eligibility? Like you I am "shocked" that NCAA is not punishing is billion$ cash cow basketball program. And if that had been UNC-Wilmington, does anyone believe it would have been the same outcome? I sense Donnie T will get 10 more show-cause years added soon.

Correct.  This doesn't surprise me...we had similar issues in the late 90s and also mostly skated.  NCAA allows universities to mess up their academic rep for athletics.  NCAA only governs eligibility of athletes, not how much academic integrity a degree has.

UNC should worry about whatever is brewing with the FBI Nike investigation.  That will be much harder to dodge.   :naughty:


Title: Re: UNC skates. I'm shocked. SHOCKED, I tell you.*
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on October 14, 2017, 12:30:47 EDT
Here's a thought.  If the NCAA is unable/unwilling to enforce academic matters, why couldn't the accreditation bodies get involved?  Don't matters like these strike right at the heart of their mission?  UNC basically admitted that these classes were a sham (for decades) and escaped NCAA justice on a technicality.  But if they thought that SAC or AAU would pull their bonafides for a couple years (thereby diminishing or outright negating the degrees of everyone who attended during that time) then schools might think twice about selling out their academics for athletic championships in the future.


Title: Re: UNC skates. I'm shocked. SHOCKED, I tell you.*
Post by: BanditVol on October 14, 2017, 06:22:44 EDT
Here's a thought.  If the NCAA is unable/unwilling to enforce academic matters, why couldn't the accreditation bodies get involved?  Don't matters like these strike right at the heart of their mission?  UNC basically admitted that these classes were a sham (for decades) and escaped NCAA justice on a technicality.  But if they thought that SAC or AAU would pull their bonafides for a couple years (thereby diminishing or outright negating the degrees of everyone who attended during that time) then schools might think twice about selling out their academics for athletic championships in the future.

I think so, but not sure how much weight my opinion carries.   :biggrin: