Would you take James Franklin from vandy?

If we offer JG 6 or 7 mil....does he come?  We can afford it....top sec teams basically print money. Wonder how much uat makes on merchandise sales? I see their crap everywhere these days. New tv deals and the coming playoffs will mean huge bucks. You wanna run with the big dogs? Better not bring a knife to a gun fight....

Can we match Philly for jg?

I have spent a lot of time thinking about coaches the last few months…what the different types of coaches are, what makes them successful…how they relate to different school situations….and here is my long-winded analyses…if anyone really cares, but here it is anyway.  I have tried to be objective.  I have not been against Dooley, I hoped he would succeed.  I have been completely on the  fence on whether or not to fire him.  After putting my thoughts down on paper and trying to be objective, I have reached my own conclusion….finally. 

It seems to me there are three major types of coaches.  First is the offensive coordinator background coach, who has some level of offensive genius or at least highly innovative and smart. Second is the defensive minded/genius/coordinator level coach. Lastly is the true manager type of coach.  Each brings different strengths and weaknesses.  All three of these types of coaches have to be able to recruit.  This is a given throughout the course of my analysis.  I have four categories of recruiting situations….poor, mediocre, good, and excellent.   There are about 8 or 9 states in the country that I put in the excellent category, these are schools with built-in advantages and talent to choose from: Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana, Texas, California, Mississippi, South Carolina, maybe another one or two.  I put Tennessee in the good category.  We have tradition and a big winning history and top-rated facilities….but we don’t have a lot of in-state talent and must recruit nationally. Thus the good not excellent  situation.

First, the Offensive coordinator head coach.  The strength of this type of coach is continuity of offensive system.  He doesn’t care if an O coordinator leaves, the system is his and he runs his system.  He can hire another OC to help but these guys set the tone of the offense and create stability on that side of the ball.  Offense is more complicated than defense and continuity on this side of the ball would probably be more important.  The weakness of this type of coach is that they depend on their DC to be good.  This type of coach may have a particular defensive philosophy that they believe in and stick with, but are not experts on defense and still are capable of being derailed by a bad DC hire.  This type of coach can be effective in recruiting at a poor situation IF his offense is good enough to be attractive to recruits and is exciting.  He can be fairly successful in a mediocre situation, can be great and win the MNC in a good or excellent situation.
Urban Myer, Steve Spurrier, Mike Leach, Chris Peterson are examples of this type of coach. You plug Peterson into a school with an excellent recruiting advantage and I would predict a MNC.

Second, the Defensive coordinator head coach.  This type of coach is similar to the offensive coach in that he brings stability/continuity  to at least one side of the ball.  He does not care if a DC leaves for another job, he runs his system and can hire a new DC to work under that system.  The good is that you maintain some stability on defense from year to year.  The weakness is that this type of coach is dependent on  a good OC to dictate what type of offense they have.  If an OC leaves, there is a significant chance of losing stability on that side of the ball.  Offense being more complicated than defense, it could be very costly to the program if this coach makes a bad hire at OC. These types must maintain some sort of offensive philosophy even though it is not their specialty.  This type of coach also tends to be more of a disciplinarian type and usually is successful when they dictate every facet of the program and tend to be micro-managers.  These coaches are less likely to be able to recruit well at poor situations, and are usually only mediocre in good recruiting situations but can win MNCs at an excellent recruiting situation.  This type of coach would be Saban, Beamer, Patterson, Stoops. 

The third type of coach is the True Manager. This type of coach was probably not a super good coordinator, or was not one for a long time, or maybe they were a coordinator for a head coach who micro-manages and didn’t really run their own system.  Maybe they were good position coaches that spent a short time at a coordinator position before moving into a HC. Whatever the reason, the true manager has the greatest set of liabilities and the fewest strengths.  This type of coach is free to focus on all aspects of the team and is not as tied to one side of the ball or other.  This type of coach has the time to run a very efficient program and probably has a little more time to recruit.   The weaknesses of this coach are many.  They are dependent on  both the OC and DC to run their team and dictate their philosophy/plan. They cannot step in and do a great job if a coordinator leaves and must make good hires.  They can be derailed by one bad hire on either side of the ball.   These kinds of coaches also have a different dynamic with regards to recruiting than the other two types.  The true program manager can be good if he hires good coordinators.  He can win MNCs at the excellent recruiting places but at the schools with good recruiting situation, things must happen in a certain way to build enough momentum to put you into the excellent category. Les Miles, Mack Brown, Fulmer, and Dooley are examples of this type of coach.  In order to build momentum at a mediocre or good recruiting situation, this type of coach has to win some big games early in the process.  He has to do something to kick the snowball off the mountain so that it can start to grow and build momentum.

Lets cut straight to it, this was the year for Dooley to upset a few folks and kick the snowball off the mountain.  Beating UF, UGA, or UAT would have probably started the momentum….but we didn’t win those.  We needed some upsets in order to get it started….two more wins would have probably done it.  But it is too late to kick the snowball off the mountain now. I don’t think winning the last 4, considering who they are, will create any buzz, excitement and will not generate any better results in recruiting than we will get to this point.  Had we won two big upset games, we would have likely gotten a few blue-chippers.  But, the snowball is still sitting on top of the mountain.  I think maybe next year Dooley can upset a couple of teams, but maybe not.  Can we afford to take a chance that next year will start the ball rolling? 

After a lot of thought….too much thought, I believe that Dooley is not the coach for us.  I believe we have the greatest chances of success going with a type1 offensive coach.  This type of coach has the least risk and greatest upside.  These types of coaches represent about 8 of the top 10 programs in the country.  I hate to say it but Dooley was a bad hire and must be replaced.   

These are my own thoughts and I alone am responsible for any mistakes or stupidity in this po

[Irish]

...I'm sure everyone is happy that the Irish stayed undefeated!!!   

Bite-me, new guy!!!

If I was a booster (which I am not) and I was going to have to float the bill for the next coach (which the boosters are) I would want to be heavliy involved in making the coaching hire.  I see nothing wrong with this nor do I think it is uncommon.  It is their money period.  At least it is people that want to see us return to Victory.  I dont care who brings in the next coach as long as it is a big name coach with a winning record.  The following criteria is what I DO NOT want to my responses to be when we name our next head coach:

Who?
The man sitting in a "holler"?
His record is what?
Who?
Who?

Whoever can bring a coach in that can prevent me from repsonding like is all I care about?  

Sitting in a Holler would be a positive attribute.   

We could still get to 7, or even 8 

Hogs could fly out of my but too....

A classic

I guess I cant bring back the cheerleader

I've been waiting for things to click but I now think that may not happen. I am now ready for a change as much as I hate it.

I am totally with you. I want him to succeed but...  Tonite, i think, will push me over the line to the "dooley cant get er done" camp. I now believe that he is not and cannot be a big-time coach...just doesnt have enough offensive or defensive genius to succeed at this level.  Being a manager is not enough.

Yeah, we are only 3 pts down...yeah the two tds looked great....but we look like crap.

Welcome home TRO!!!

Hollerboy, I think I love you.

It is good to be loved!

If we beat Georgia I am going to blame you for the Florida loss

LOL!

dawgs SUXES!!!!  uga is a bunch of wussies!!!  They don't deserve to be on the field with the MIGHTY VOLS!!!! 

KILL!  KILL! KILL!  STOMP! STOMP! STOMP!

KILL THE DAWGS AND STOMP THEIR EGGS!!!***   

This may be our only chance to kill and stomp anyone of note the rest of the year. I got a feewing we are gonna win.  Could be diarrhea but I feel a win coming on!!!   This is just the kind of game that Dooley needs to save his job.  If we don't win, I figure he will probably be gone and I can shelve it till next year.

Although premature, I was thinking about what we do if a coaching change does occur at the end of the season. I like the idea of backing up a brinks truck full of money and hiring the best coach out there but I dont see a Saban or Myer type as out there for the taking. 

There are some successful coaches who are consumate managers, who have the clout to recruit anywhere and can get great assistants to work for them (saban).  There are others who are genius at their craft, have unique offensive systems that make them successful and is attractive to recruits (Myer or maybe kelley).  Bama drug Saban back from the NFL with the brinks truck but is there anyone out there that fits that profile of surefire winner?  Pete Carrol?  He hasn't failed enough yet in the NFL to make a return to college.  Myer and Sabin are not going anywhere.  Petrino has too much baggage IMO.  Who is the sure fire bet that we can simply pay and get?  I dont see one.  I keep hearing the Gruden thing but that is not a good choice.  Gruden hates young players.  He had the biggest most complicated playbood in the NFL. He likes complicated offenses and would have no patience for college players abilities.  He has never recruited.  He makes more money than we can pay, to work much less.  Dont see it.  Cower has no reason to come....he is an NFL guy.  I dont see a sure thing college guy that we could pay a boatload to and be assured of results.  Who we gonna get?  Another young up-and-comer?  That hasn't worked out too well so far.  I hate the thought of it but Petrino is probably the best option as far as recruiting and system but the baggage is just too big a problem for many fans. 


Who else is there?

Would chavis be able to recruit like we must and would he be a good choice/possibly?

Meh...WWFDT.

Huh? I dont speak that language too well. Wish kickoff was at noon.

I aint felt it in a long time...hate to break it out until i feel it.  At this point, i am getting more and more apprehensive. Too many people picking us....would rather not be the favorite. I fear a catastrophic egg stomping....

Vols 28, UF 26....but honestly, the only reason i am picking the Vols is case i aint never picked the gaters fer NOTHING! !!!    But my heart tells me it will be the same-ol same-ol. We should win...cant convince myself that we will.  Kinda wish i was going to the game. Sorta feels like a certain year back in the nineties.

Uf has crushed our hopes so many times that i have no confidence we will win. Hope, yes, but if i were betting.....i wouldnt. People forget how many times we looked the favorite only to get hammered by a backup QB.  Uf has had higher rated recruiting classes and prob has alot more talent.  I will not be surprised if they beat the crap out of us.  I will be surprised if we beat the crap out of them. I think Dooley better hide if they stomp our eggs.

eggs in recent years. Shamefully,  i haven't sported my flag much either of late.  I really need to see a good egg stomping tonite.

The cocks will slaughter blunderbilt. I aint' drinkin their kool-aid.