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Title: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: Hollerboy on December 21, 2013, 12:39:07 EST
Im hearing that the administration will not consider him but if there is overwhelming support from us bill-payers then maybe they will have a change of heart. I got no faith in the guy we have now.


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: Clockwork Orange on December 21, 2013, 12:48:06 EST
Me.


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: PirateVOL on December 21, 2013, 12:53:22 EST
Tight Leash but I would be in the yes box


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: VOLveeta on December 21, 2013, 01:12:33 EST
YES YES YES YES YES!!!   :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: 73Volgrad on December 21, 2013, 01:32:48 EST
No. What he did was a firing offense.  He should have been fired immediately not at the end of season. I would never trust him again. In a job of this magnitude and responsibility, you do not deserve a second chance.

No.


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: Tnphil on December 21, 2013, 01:37:38 EST
Love to have him back....hell, I wish he'd never left. But, IMO you never fire someone and then hire-em back. Unless you are Billy Martin and the Yankees of course. :toothless:


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: GreggO on December 21, 2013, 02:07:04 EST
Love to have him back....hell, I wish he'd never left. But, IMO you never fire someone and then hire-em back. Unless you are Billy Martin and the Yankees of course. :toothless:

 :dielaughing: :dielaughing: :dielaughing:

If BP were to come back, don't you think the entore athletic department would be walking around for years with their butts puckered-up in fear of the ncaa? I don't think the other coaches would be happy with that at all.

G    :powert:


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: RIPLEYVOL on December 21, 2013, 03:37:14 EST
Yes for me!!!  It would be a hell of an improvement from the current state of the game!


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: dansavol1 on December 21, 2013, 04:13:30 EST
It's time to lay this to rest.  I liked Bruce, but what he did was wrong.  The fact is, he is gone.  Let it die. :violin:


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: HerbTarlekVol on December 21, 2013, 04:37:34 EST
Yes for me!!!  It would be a hell of an improvement from the current state of the game!

A stuffed animal sitting in the head coaches chair would be an improvement over what we have now.   


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: Tnphil on December 21, 2013, 04:44:30 EST
A stuffed animal sitting in the head coaches chair would be an improvement over what we have now.   

Yeah.....we could have a cardboard cut out of Pearl on the bench coaching and we'd most likely be 9-1 at least right now.


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: Stogie Vol on December 21, 2013, 04:57:48 EST
I think the administration is a bigger hurdle than any NCAA concerns.  He has paid the penalty. I'd be fine with it if it could be possible.


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: HerbTarlekVol on December 21, 2013, 05:29:04 EST
I think the administration is a bigger hurdle than any NCAA concerns.  He has paid the penalty. I'd be fine with it if it could be possible.

I think both would be an issue.  We know about the UT administration's stance, but many within the inner workings and powers that be in college basketball are not fond of Pearl from his past histories with them.  Some in those positions could make things really hard on UT (or whoever were to hire him) if they were to bring back Pearl. 

And while I was once dead set on not rehiring him, I am now pretty much in the same boat as my good friend Pirate is - I would be ok with bringing him back, but with very tight leash attached. 


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: Volznut on December 21, 2013, 06:40:30 EST
I'll go on record that I would love to have him back


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: RockinGrannyVol on December 21, 2013, 06:52:21 EST
I'd love to have him back....first off, he got screwed on his penalty compared to many others, secondly he's served his penalty, thirdly  I think he's learned his lesson and would make sure nothing went awry again -- Pearl should be coaching and I'd rather it be for Tennessee than someone else!   :powert: :powert: :powert:


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: VinnieVOL on December 21, 2013, 07:15:47 EST
Wish it were possible, yes for me.


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: Creek Walker on December 21, 2013, 07:17:56 EST
I would be all for it, however unlikely it might be. As BDV said, his penalty was too severe, but he's served it anyway. I have a difficult time thinking he hasn't learned his lesson. First of all, the actual recruiting violation was very minor. Not a huge deal and not something 99 percent of UT fans would've wanted him fired over. The bigger violation was the lie. I try to put myself in his shoes and I can honestly say that I might've done the same thing...in fact, I think many, if not most, of us would do the same thing in our professional lives if we thought we could get away with it.

A lot of the UT fans I've heard say they wouldn't want him back because he "just can't help himself" or something similar (and that segment of the fan base is definitely a small minority) are still hung up on the supposed violations Pearl committed after his tearful presser on 9/10/10. They don't realize that one of those was drummed up by the NCAA and the others by Jimmy Cheek/Mike Hamilton in one big CYA cluster.


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: Volengineer on December 21, 2013, 07:20:23 EST
I'm all for it.  They went nuclear option on Pearl for nothing compared to whatever the Miami coach did.  If we had an AD with some cajones at the time he probably would still have been our coach.


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: EmerilVOL on December 21, 2013, 07:34:32 EST
Im hearing that the administration will not consider him but if there is overwhelming support from us bill-payers then maybe they will have a change of heart. I got no faith in the guy we have now.

the biggest mistake that UT ever made was hiring an accountant with ties to the rat tiglet basturds as our AD.  He basically threw Pearl under the bus when the NCAA came and discussed with hamilton that they wanted to talk with Pearl rregarding a possible recruiting violation and showed Hamiltin the "grainy facebook photo" of the bbq.  haith and an assitant were paying off boosters.  Hamilton had never played sports and did not know what it meant to be a team...and to think he said he was a religious person.



Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: BanditVol on December 21, 2013, 07:41:47 EST
I'd take him back.   

Regardless of whether he comes back, he should sue the every loving shizzle out of the NCAA for the gross discrepancy in treatment between himself and the Miami coach.

OTOH, I am pretty sure that a lot was going on besides a bar-b-que.....let's just leave it at that.


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: Tnphil on December 21, 2013, 08:19:08 EST
I'd take him back.   

Regardless of whether he comes back, he should sue the every loving shizzle out of the NCAA for the gross discrepancy in treatment between himself and the Miami coach.

OTOH, I am pretty sure that a lot was going on besides a bar-b-que.....let's just leave it at that.

I think you hit on a point....there were other things that made the BBQ bigger than it was.


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: Coupe De VOL on December 22, 2013, 12:15:20 EST
Yes.  It's basically a no brainer.


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: Jean Voljean on December 22, 2013, 04:39:25 EST
Yes. 


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: murfvol on December 23, 2013, 02:30:41 EST
Yes. I like the guy.


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: volmeister on December 23, 2013, 03:53:00 EST
In a heart beat.


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: BanditVol on December 23, 2013, 05:43:05 EST
So it's overwhelming.....admin doesn't support it?  Then maybe THEY should go.   :nod:


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: Inspector Vol on December 23, 2013, 06:07:47 EST
Funny how some have changed their minds on this. I don't really care but he was treated unfairly by the admin and the ncaa, in light of recent rulings.

Part of me wants to hire him back just to flip off the ncaa and slive. Hart hired into a difficult job.


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: ChattanoogaVol on December 23, 2013, 11:36:22 EST
Yes for me.

 :powert:


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: Hollerboy on January 13, 2014, 04:57:59 EST
So....has anyone changed their minds yet?  If we dont hire Pearl, I bet blunderbilt will.  Stallings is a complete and total maroon.  He constantly runs off players with his ass-hat personality and now (combined with injuries) he is down to 7 scholly players on the team.  I would rather have Pearl than cuanzo and sure as hell dont want to see Pearl at blundy.  (Note to Herb...I stole your "ass-hat" insult, just too funny not to use on a regular basis! :bowrofl:


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: VinnieVOL on January 13, 2014, 07:38:09 EST
The real question is, has anything changed within the administration that makes anyone think Pearl is remotely possible?  Several regs here who claim to know have said "not a chance" in the past... is there still basically no chance?


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: Screaming Eagle Dad on January 13, 2014, 07:41:43 EST
Yes, take him back, he puts fans in the stands, money in the bank, and pride in the program. He should be given a second chance.


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: 73Volgrad on January 13, 2014, 07:45:40 EST
I still have not changed my mind. It is still no.  He lied to NCAA and they will never forgive him or forget. If we have one little slip up, they will penalize us.  We do not have an administration that has the backbone to stand up to the NCAA. As much as I liked the job Bruce did, he lit the fire that burned the bridges that would have allowed his return.

Stop living in the past and look for a new beginning with someone who can actually coach and is not in over their head. It is not going to be Bruce.


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: Hollerboy on January 13, 2014, 09:07:34 EST
I still have not changed my mind. It is still no.  He lied to NCAA and they will never forgive him or forget. If we have one little slip up, they will penalize us.  We do not have an administration that has the backbone to stand up to the NCAA. As much as I liked the job Bruce did, he lit the fire that burned the bridges that would have allowed his return.

Stop living in the past and look for a new beginning with someone who can actually coach and is not in over their head. It is not going to be Bruce.
I think Bruce deserves a new beginning, can actually coach, and is not in over his head.  I think he was the best BB coach we ever had. Just my opinion but I think that if he is good enough for the 50 other schools that will be lined up to hire him, he is good enough for us. Regarging the administration, I thought they worked for us....meaning, enough fan outcry and they should listen.  Again, just my opinion. 


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: Tnphil on January 13, 2014, 09:12:38 EST
I think Bruce deserves a new beginning, can actually coach, and is not in over his head.  I think he was the best BB coach we ever had. Just my opinion but I think that if he is good enough for the 50 other schools that will be lined up to hire him, he is good enough for us. Regarging the administration, I thought they worked for us....meaning, enough fan outcry and they should listen.  Again, just my opinion. 

^Agree......He'll be coaching somewhere in a few months and we'll be watching that schools fans going crazy while we'll be watching CCM and his miss-fits losing to teams at home like A&M ranked 146 in the RPI.


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: EmerilVOL on January 13, 2014, 09:54:08 EST
I still have not changed my mind. It is still no.  He lied to NCAA and they will never forgive him or forget. If we have one little slip up, they will penalize us.  We do not have an administration that has the backbone to stand up to the NCAA. As much as I liked the job Bruce did, he lit the fire that burned the bridges that would have allowed his return.

Stop living in the past and look for a new beginning with someone who can actually coach and is not in over their head. It is not going to be Bruce.

While Pearl was not entirely truthful when first asked about the "grainy" picture there were also some "behind the scenes" throwing under the bus things happening as well.  Hamilton and his team of lawyers pushed Bruce under the bus when it came to the NCAA.  I happen to know several lawyers here in town that have given money to UT in large denominations and many of them said that the "legal beagles" that UT employed were less than kind in preparing Pearl and company to talk with the NCAA justice division. 

Secondly the NCAA penalized Pearl with a three year show cause and then here is Frank Haith that was paying off bosters....LIED TO THE NCAA about it and he got a FIVE GAME SUSPENSION out of that little deal.  The NCAA said in their findings that HAITH LIED TO THE INVESTIGATORS.  Frankly Haith's transgression in a lie was ten times the severity of what the Pearl situation was.  Bruce would not be in over his head at UT and that's the fact jack!!!

Petrino is now the coach at UofL and he was the worst offewnder in the "I can't wait to interview for my next head coaching job screw you" club in the world but UofL forgave and hired Petrino.  Time for us to hire back a coach that had the cahoonies ot get off the bench and scream at the officials when they are giving UT the screw job in calling the game.  The refs on Saturday night were channeling some of the worst college refs I have ever seen....and I was at the game and it was not just a few but almost the entire arena yelling about the officiating.  Time for UT to step up and bring back the coach that actually sold more popcorn than Martin and Buzz ever did!!!

 


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: 73Volgrad on January 13, 2014, 10:15:43 EST
I never implied or said Bruce would be in over his head; that was directed at our current coach.

Hollerboy, the UT administration works for the State Government, not the people or fans. No matter what the outcry from fans, unless the Board lead by our Governor chooses to fire them, the people are out of luck.  The two top administrators do not care what the people of Tennessee think.  They will never admit they made a mistake or go back on a decision because in their minds it would show weakness.

And frankly, I do not care what other people or other schools who do not have the moral backbone to put principle before winning at all costs do. 

Petrino is just a moral and unprincipled scum bag that has not been punished by the NCAA. Trying to use that as justification to rehire Pearl ,  well, these are not the same.  Frankly, the NCAA does not like Pearl because he ratted out a coaching legend and made him look bad.  They will be after Pearl for any and everything.

Stop tilting at windmills and start looking for a new coach.  It will not be Bruce unless Hart has more pull than he has shown.

The answer is still no.


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: Creek Walker on January 13, 2014, 10:28:46 EST

Stop tilting at windmills and start looking for a new coach.  It will not be Bruce unless Hart has more pull than he has shown.

It is no more the fans' responsibility to look for a new coach than it is their responsibility to fire UT administrators. Fans are going to speculate. It's our nature. And there's nothing wrong with that.


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: PirateVOL on January 13, 2014, 11:04:17 EST
I never implied or said Bruce would be in over his head; that was directed at our current coach.

Hollerboy, the UT administration works for the State Government, not the people or fans. No matter what the outcry from fans, unless the Board lead by our Governor chooses to fire them, the people are out of luck.  The two top administrators do not care what the people of Tennessee think.  They will never admit they made a mistake or go back on a decision because in their minds it would show weakness.

And frankly, I do not care what other people or other schools who do not have the moral backbone to put principle before winning at all costs do. 

Petrino is just a moral and unprincipled scum bag that has not been punished by the NCAA. Trying to use that as justification to rehire Pearl ,  well, these are not the same.  Frankly, the NCAA does not like Pearl because he ratted out a coaching legend and made him look bad.  They will be after Pearl for any and everything.

Stop tilting at windmills and start looking for a new coach.  It will not be Bruce unless Hart has more pull than he has shown.

The answer is still no.
whatever dude  Chill out
I never once thought Gruden was coming but that didn't cause me to slam those that tilted at that particular windmill



Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: TheRealOrange on January 14, 2014, 01:51:31 EST
Hollerboy, the UT administration works for the State Government, not the people or fans.

Ummmm, the people are exactly who the "government" should be working for, and hence who the UT administration should be also.  Yes, I understand reality, but until "we the people" start directing our elected officials, nothing will change.  And, without the people/fans, there is no sports program needing coaches.  End of rant.   :wink:


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: Hollerboy on January 14, 2014, 03:25:28 EST
Ummmm, the people are exactly who the "government" should be working for, and hence who the UT administration should be also.  Yes, I understand reality, but until "we the people" start directing our elected officials, nothing will change.  And, without the people/fans, there is no sports program needing coaches.  End of rant.   :wink:
Nice rant! :box:


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: Hollerboy on February 13, 2014, 04:41:54 EST
Just checking back in on the poll...Here on Nashvegas radio, I hear about 95% in favor of bring Pearl back.  I think we should fire Jimmy Cheek....he seems to be a bumbling itiot...JMO. 


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: BanditVol on February 14, 2014, 06:27:29 EST
A stuffed animal sitting in the head coaches chair would be an improvement over what we have now.   

If that's true, then let's bring back Buzz...or better yet, Wade Houston.   :naughty:

In spite of your polemic, we have had worse.   :naughty:


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: EmerilVOL on February 15, 2014, 09:15:21 EST
Clay Travis on UT's Basketball Hires for the past twenty five years

Put it this way: Do you trust Tennessee's administration to hire a better coach than Bruce Pearl? Tennessee's coaching hire list over the past 25 years is like a bad snuff film -- Wade Houston, Kevin O'Neill, Jerry Green, Buzz Peterson and now Cuonzo Martin. (Insert next failure here). Or hire one of the best coaches in college basketball who already lives in your town and is coming off six straight NCAA tourney trips. It's an absolute no-brainer.


Clay finally writes something I totally agree with: 

Tennessee's coaching hire list over the past 25 years is like a bad snuff film -- Wade Houston, Kevin O'Neill, Jerry Green, Buzz Peterson and now Cuonzo Martin. (Insert next failure here).


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: SmokeyJoe on February 16, 2014, 05:52:36 EST
Me.


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Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: CrossVol on February 18, 2014, 04:05:07 EST
Im hearing that the administration will not consider him but if there is overwhelming support from us bill-payers then maybe they will have a change of heart. I got no faith in the guy we have now.

YES!!!!!


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: Screaming Eagle Dad on February 19, 2014, 09:00:46 EST
It sickens me to read about Bruce lied. SICKENS ME!!! I'm sick and friggin tired of Tennessee fans so full of sanctimonious crap. The man made a mistake and God knows nobody else has riiiiight? I've screwed up at times in my life and am thankful that I've been given second chances. Bruce deserves a second chance.


Title: Re: POLL: Who wants Pearl back?....
Post by: Tnphil on February 20, 2014, 05:52:20 EST
It sickens me to read about Bruce lied. SICKENS ME!!! I'm sick and friggin tired of Tennessee fans so full of sanctimonious crap. The man man a mistake and God knows nobody else has riiiiight? I've screwed up at times in my life and am thankful that I've been given second chances. Bruce deserves a second chance.

Yep...he'll get a second chance, most likely at one of our rivals. That'll sting!!

If not us I hope Boston College hires him...they'll most likely be looking for a coach next season and that's the part of the country Bruce is from.