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umm.  wow
Methinks Cuonzo just fired himself.

I'm really curious about the details. Some rumors are indicating it wasn't fully Trae's choice. If that's the case, Cuonzo better have something major up his sleeve as a replacement. He also better kiss his "good guy" status goodbye, as this combined with Yemi and Travon Landry paints a picture of a guy who is not committed to his players in the least.

SMH.

Yes. I'm reserving judgment until we know the full story but on the surface I don't like it a bit.

Sounds like academics related, but CCM told him to hit the road. I bet someone transfers in

Look for Antonio Barton!!!

Weird. Let's hope somebody transfers in!

That is the rumor.

Would Memphis permit that? Did they just cut him loose free & clear?

He graduated. he can transfer anywhere as long as he takes a course or study not offered by Memphis, and play for 1 year

Who's he?

If its not academically related then it has to be on the HC and if so something is wrong. You don't just cut loose a player like Golden has been, once he came back from the injury he was on fire for the most part. Personally, if Matin just don't get it done then I'd love to see, even though I don't think it'll ever happen, Bruce Pearl back.

PG at Memphis, transferring somewhere. he can play immediately because he has graduated

So, "repeated plagiarism" seems to be the story. I'll have to pull back some of the criticism I lobbed at Cuonzo as it was probably out of his hands if the story is true.

But that explanation raises more questions than it answers . . . questions to which the answers could be very bad for UT. I hope I'm wrong on that.

Repeated could just be twice.

And if it is, we have nothing further to worry about. I believe in allowing them the opportunity to learn from their stupidity. I dealt with cheating three times as a teacher, and never once recommended expulsion on the first transgression. I gave them a choice: take a 0 for the assignment, admit to your actions and show your contrition in writing, and I will recommend that it be added to your file only for reference in the future; or, choose to continue lying and face student judicial affairs and likely expulsion. All three chose the former. I'd like to think I scared the shizzle out of them enough that the second offense never happened.

But if "repeated" was more than two and central administration had to step in and force Golden out, then we may have a bigger problem. Golden's academic integrity is rightly being questioned but we need to hope that UT's does not need to be questioned as well.

Aw hell! Surely not. That would be very bad. Not even going to think it!

 Contacted Wednesday afternoon, Robert Golden, Trae’s father, initially declined comment. He then, however, called Tuesday’s reports “totally inaccurate.”

“No, no, no,” he said regarding Golden’s alleged academic issues. “It’s not that. My son, he’s fine in that area. He’s just going to pursue some other opportunities.”

http://m.govolsxtra.com/news/2013/may/08/father-of-trae-golden-says-reports-of-academic/ (http://m.govolsxtra.com/news/2013/may/08/father-of-trae-golden-says-reports-of-academic/)

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It sounds to me like Golden's dad doesn't want it to get out that his son did some cheating. I don't think the issue was grades, which is what most assume when they hear it's academic related.

Well it shouldn't have come out. If that is the whole truth . . . that he was dismissed for a second offense of academic dishonesty . . . okay, but it is not the public or media's right to know that. And it seems to me, based on the timing, that it was leaked by someone in the AD in response to the pressure that Martin was receiving when the rumor was that he asked Golden to go elsewhere. If they leaked Golden's transgressions just to take the heat off of Cuonzo, then well . . . that sucks. Cuonzo is paid to take the heat. He's an adult and a head coach. Golden, despite his actions, did not need to be publicly shamed.

Just how the world works

Well it depends on the purpose of the leak. If someone in the AD shared info with the media in the usual way, okay . . . yes, it's unfortunate, but crap always leaks out. But if they did it deliberately to take the heat off the basketball coach then I have a serious problem with that.

 If he cheated, then why should he be protected from being shamed publicly?  He should be publicly shamed.... instead of letting him quietly go away while letting your coach twist in the wind.  He cheated, he should be man enough to accept the consequences and I dont think it should be kept quiet....no reason to protect bad character. JMHO

Would you like all of your dirty laundry aired publicly by the media, especially by people you thought you could trust? How is that fair? The kid made a mistake but he is not a criminal. Academic history is, in fact, protected by FERPA, so there are legal reasons this should not have been made public in addition to ethical ones.

It is probably a safe assumption that it was leaked intentionally. And let's not kid ourselves -- it happens everywhere. Is it fair to Golden? No. But is it fair for Martin to take heat for something he didn't do? No. If the story of Golden cheating doesn't emerge, then everyone assumes that Martin let Golden go of his own free will, which we can pretty much all agree would have been a very dumb move on his part. The only way to stop those rumors from festering is to let the truth be known. It is what it is. Nobody wins but, as Volznut said, it's just the way the world works.

That is kinda what I meant, we may or may not like it or agree with it, but it does work like that. Legal or not. 

Golden has a protected right to the privacy of his academic history, even if it involves dishonesty. Martin has no protected right to avoid heat, and our AD and basketball staff should be above sacrificing their student-athletes' rights to protect the temperature of their coaches' seats.

In a perfect world, that's true. But I'd be willing to wager a guess that there isn't a D-1 school in the country that would do differently. To be completely honest, I don't have a problem with it. The laws are what they are, but when you sign up to play a major sport at a major school in exchange for a free college degree, it goes without saying that you're going to be subject to more scrutiny than the average student. The reasonable expectation of privacy for a major sport student-athlete isn't as great as for "normal" students. Maybe that's not fair, but it is what it is because of the fans and our demands to know anything and everything that is happening with our team. The question is whether the student-athletes would be willing to accept a fan following and program hype like tennis or swimming or some other lesser sport in exchange for the relative anonymity that other students are privileged to. I'm willing to guess that they wouldn't.

"[M]ore scrutiny" should not ever include violations of rights. I'm sorry, but I can never get on board with this stance. It's not right to air this no matter the reason, IMO. I take student privacy very seriously and playing a sport-- no matter how much positive publicity or benefit you receive for it-- should not involve sacrificing protected privacy rights. I realize that UT is not the first and will not be the last to do things this way, but it doesn't make it okay.

Health information is also protected but you don't see that stopping every college and pro team from discussing an individual's injury and surgical procedures, drug tests, and alcohol encounters.  Like others have said, it is the way the world works.  Also, like others, if it is true about what is leaked, I could care less about how it makes him look.  He knew going into this that he, as an athlete, is under a microscope and that everything he does is going to be discussed and he still decided to do what he did.

HIPPA (the patient privacy and protection act of which this is only one part of of HIPPA and something I know quite a bit about working in the healthcare industry) provides several methods that would allow a college or university to discuss an athletes medical issues from any perspective.  The university can ask an athlete for a blanket right to release information regarding the atheltes medical conditions and / or testing results.  Many colleges and universities ask for this release due to the blanket terms under which HIPPA is governed and the penalties for violation being so stiff per incident.  Also the college could ask for a release to discuss specific tests or medical procedures.  There are implementations in the rules that cover almost ever which way medical data can be released and I will bet that many colleges and universities request that kind of release from an athelete since they are so visible in the community and area.