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« on: September 07, 2011, 06:28:46 EDT » |
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Could it mean the end of Alabama vs. Tennessee yearly game?
If you keep the same scheduling formula with Auburn Moving east.
Auburn-Alabama Florida-LSU USC-Arkie Ole Miss-Vandy Miss St-Kentucky Georgia--Open----Auburn now in division Tennessee Open--Alabama Moved to Auburn.
Move back to 1 rotating.
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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2011, 12:11:20 EDT » |
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Interesting reading on the MU board. These guys have been 1000 miles an hour for 3 weeks on conference realignment. www.tigerboard.com
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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2011, 02:49:38 EDT » |
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I'd say that conference realignment is going to put a strain on the yearly matchup with Alabama no matter how you shake it. Which sucks, but it's apparently what everyone wants (the realignment, that is).
There have been a few people already advocating for this series to end as an annual meeting, including Tennessee's very own (and much loved) John Adams.
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2011, 03:41:40 EDT » |
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Just add one conference game and we can keep the matchup. Instead 5-1-2 schedule it would be a 6-1-2 schedule.
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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2011, 03:57:39 EDT » |
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Just add one conference game and we can keep the matchup. Instead 5-1-2 schedule it would be a 6-1-2 schedule.
The problem is if Mizzou is the 14th team and Auburn comes east, as some have speculated, there's no way for Alabama to play two East teams each year, and Alabama-Auburn will always trump Alabama-Tennessee.
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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2011, 04:04:57 EDT » |
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I'd say that conference realignment is going to put a strain on the yearly matchup with Alabama no matter how you shake it. Which sucks, but it's apparently what everyone wants (the realignment, that is).
There have been a few people already advocating for this series to end as an annual meeting, including Tennessee's very own (and much loved) John Adams.
Not that I agree, but I can see the reasoning of those who would want to end that rivalry. Losing to bammer sucks, but beating them could be even worse- some redneck psychopath could blow up the Vol Navy, or inject Smoky with parvo.
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2011, 04:05:39 EDT » |
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The problem is if Mizzou is the 14th team and Auburn comes east, as some have speculated, there's no way for Alabama to play two East teams each year, and Alabama-Auburn will always trump Alabama-Tennessee.
There is if you go to two permanent opposite division opponents and one rotating, like we did for the first few years of expansion.
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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2011, 04:12:31 EDT » |
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There is if you go to two permanent opposite division opponents and one rotating, like we did for the first few years of expansion.
True, but would that be deemed as being in the best interest of the conference in the long term? I don't think it would be. I just don't think there are enough natural rivalries in the SEC to pull that off. Which West team gets lucky and draws Vandy every year?
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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2011, 04:31:34 EDT » |
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That is for 14 teams. Since they are both to the west of us I wonder if the SEC isn't considering going for 2 more teams to make an even 16. If so we could split into 4 different groups. If we do that I don't think it would be a problem to keep traditional rivalries.
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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2011, 04:38:44 EDT » |
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That is for 14 teams. Since they are both to the west of us I wonder if the SEC isn't considering going for 2 more teams to make an even 16. If so we could split into 4 different groups. If we do that I don't think it would be a problem to keep traditional rivalries.
This has my vote. 15 teams in 3 divisions or 16 teams in 4 divisions. Either would necessitate a 2-round playoff but I think the SEC can swing that. The only tricky part would be matching reasonable geography with power balance, but it could be done. * With 5 team divisions, you'd have 4 division games, perhaps 2 interdivision rivalries, and 2-3 rotating games. * With 4 team divisions, you'd have 3 division games, 2-3 interdivision rivalries, and 3-4 rotating games. Either of those is workable and IMO would easily preserve the major rivalries in the conference. It might even accommodate bringing a couple back.
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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2011, 05:44:19 EDT » |
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This has my vote. 15 teams in 3 divisions or 16 teams in 4 divisions. Either would necessitate a 2-round playoff but I think the SEC can swing that. The only tricky part would be matching reasonable geography with power balance, but it could be done.
* With 5 team divisions, you'd have 4 division games, perhaps 2 interdivision rivalries, and 2-3 rotating games.
* With 4 team divisions, you'd have 3 division games, 2-3 interdivision rivalries, and 3-4 rotating games.
Either of those is workable and IMO would easily preserve the major rivalries in the conference. It might even accommodate bringing a couple back.
If OK (& OK St) and tejas bolt to the Pac12 (16) then I see the SEC going to 16 sooner rather than later. Most likely we pull two from the remains of the SWC (Big XX) and two from the ACC/Big Least.
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« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2011, 05:51:32 EDT » |
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3 divisions of 5 teams each might create my dream division:
Tennessee, Alabama, Auburn, Kentucky, and Vandy. It's balanced and it re-creates the Auburn rivalry.
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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2011, 07:37:51 EDT » |
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Missouri seems the most likely candidate at this point. They have a reasonably good recent tradition, and would fit in other ways (kind of like Kentucky, but better at football). They also bring St. Louis and Kansas City, though I have no idea how important those are to TV, but I bet they ain't chopped liver.
As for the two-game playoff...I am not sure the NCAA would approve that. They already allow an exemption for one conference title game. Perhaps if the conference waived it's right to play in things like the Kickoff Classic? Or is that even an extra game anymore?
Multiple divisions would be exciting though, that's for sure.
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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2011, 07:39:44 EDT » |
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One other thought...what about adding a small academically-oriented school in a big TV market. Rice is in Houston and SMU is in Dallas. Either would bring a large TV market and academic credibility. I am only semi-serious, but think about it. We have to have Vandy in the East, it's only fair that the West get it's very own p*ssy school.
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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2011, 08:54:36 EDT » |
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This has my vote. 15 teams in 3 divisions or 16 teams in 4 divisions. Either would necessitate a 2-round playoff but I think the SEC can swing that. The only tricky part would be matching reasonable geography with power balance, but it could be done.
* With 5 team divisions, you'd have 4 division games, perhaps 2 interdivision rivalries, and 2-3 rotating games.
* With 4 team divisions, you'd have 3 division games, 2-3 interdivision rivalries, and 3-4 rotating games.
Either of those is workable and IMO would easily preserve the major rivalries in the conference. It might even accommodate bringing a couple back.
Personally I think a 15 team league sucks. That way at least one team every week has a bye or out of conference game. That's fine but the last month of the season should consist of nothing but conference games. So say I, the football purist.
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