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Title: Just wondering, did they pass the legislation allowing grocery stores to sell
Post by: volsboy on April 23, 2014, 06:34:52 EDT
alcohol in TN? I remember it being discussed a while back. If they do it will mean big savings for those that buy alcohol.


Title: Re: Just wondering, did they pass the legislation allowing grocery stores to sell
Post by: Creek Walker on April 23, 2014, 06:53:11 EDT
They did but it must be approved by county/city governing bodies.


Title: Re: Just wondering, did they pass the legislation allowing grocery stores to sell
Post by: HerbTarlekVol on April 23, 2014, 07:18:56 EDT
And it isn't all alcohol, but just wine.  Still have to go to a "package" store to get spirits other than beer and wine. 


Title: Re: Just wondering, did they pass the legislation allowing grocery stores to sell
Post by: Volznut on April 23, 2014, 08:14:58 EDT
someone please explain the logic to me



Title: Re: Just wondering, did they pass the legislation allowing grocery stores to sell
Post by: droner on April 23, 2014, 08:32:28 EDT
someone please explain the logic to me



There is no logic when it comes to alcohol laws. The feds have said that the states have control. Many states let the local governments exercise that control.

Quite frankly it all boils down to money. The governments want the tax money and the alcohol distributors and wholesalers want the sales to pass through them so that they make a buck. That's why people have faced such difficulties with direct shipment of wine. The laws have relaxed in many states but it's still constantly being tried in the courts.

Also, alcohol is a hot-button topic involving religion. There is no logic in that arena.


Title: Re: Just wondering, did they pass the legislation allowing grocery stores to sell
Post by: Volznut on April 23, 2014, 08:46:21 EDT

Quite frankly it all boils down to money.

Doesn't everything ?



Title: Re: Just wondering, did they pass the legislation allowing grocery stores to sell
Post by: droner on April 23, 2014, 08:47:20 EDT
And just to make sure I rile up everyone, the alcohol discussion always involves Mothers Against Drunk Driving, a/k/a MADD. Every time anyone recommends changing alcohol laws that could make it more convenient for legal age adults to buy alcohol, MADD opposes it. If someone doesn't like a proposed change in alcohol laws (such as anyone who makes more money in the present system), they go to MADD and convince MADD that this will make it easier for kids to get alcohol. When the wine direct shipping cases come up, the wine distributors get MADD involved who oppose direct shipping.  I'm not saying MADD doesn't do good work and I know that many people have been killed by drunk drivers. However, I've never known a kid to order a $400 case of wine in order to get drunk. Most likely they're using a fake ID, getting friends to buy alcohol or stealing it from their parents.

But when MADD gets involved, the debate goes awry. After all, what politician is going to oppose MADD?


Title: Re: Just wondering, did they pass the legislation allowing grocery stores to sell
Post by: volsboy on April 23, 2014, 09:22:19 EDT
what's the difference in buying it at a package store or at Walmart, you still HAVE to be 21. Does some TN politician own a whole bunch of package stores. Makes no sense to me. If it is okay here in S.Dakota, should be okay in TN. Walmart sells all types of alcohol here. Way cheaper than package stores.


Title: Re: Just wondering, did they pass the legislation allowing grocery stores to sell
Post by: Coupe De VOL on April 23, 2014, 09:52:08 EDT
someone please explain the logic to me



There are no alcohol sales in grocery or convenient stores here in Maryland simply because the liquor store lobby OWNS the state legislature.  It is amazingly pathetic.  Just about every strip mall here in MD has a liquor store and nail salon.  It's almost like those come "standard".


Title: Re: Just wondering, did they pass the legislation allowing grocery stores to sell
Post by: Volznut on April 23, 2014, 09:55:59 EDT
To me, either you

1 - Don't allow it at all
2 - Allow it to be sold anywhere, anytime, any day.

All of this you can sell it but not in this type of building, not this type of business .. is a bunch of BS.



Title: Re: Just wondering, did they pass the legislation allowing grocery stores to sell
Post by: Creek Walker on April 24, 2014, 01:36:10 EDT
There are no alcohol sales in grocery or convenient stores here in Maryland simply because the liquor store lobby OWNS the state legislature.  It is amazingly pathetic.  Just about every strip mall here in MD has a liquor store and nail salon.  It's almost like those come "standard".

Same here. Last year the wine-in-grocery-stores failed because of the pressure the package store lobby brought to the table. This year the legislators backing the bill inserted some measures to ease restrictions on liquor stores. That appeased their lobbyists, and the bill passed.

I hate politics.


Title: Re: Just wondering, did they pass the legislation allowing grocery stores to sell
Post by: BanditVol on April 24, 2014, 03:21:50 EDT
There are no alcohol sales in grocery or convenient stores here in Maryland simply because the liquor store lobby OWNS the state legislature.  It is amazingly pathetic.  Just about every strip mall here in MD has a liquor store and nail salon.  It's almost like those come "standard".

So the idea is to get liquored up and go to the nail salon?  How strange.  Probably makes getting waxed easier though.   :naughty:


Title: Re: Just wondering, did they pass the legislation allowing grocery stores to sell
Post by: 73Volgrad on April 24, 2014, 03:58:39 EDT
Grocery stores will also be able to sell "high gravity" craft beers.