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Title: The Wolf catch
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on September 27, 2015, 03:14:04 EDT
To begin, I am not putting this loss on officiating. No way, shape, or form - having said that, the last 10 seconds was very confusing.

On the last completion, did the official initially rule the clock should have stopped? I thought that he did. I also saw Butch talking to the side judge and I assumed he must have been asking if the clock was dead.

I think it is possible our staff thought the clock was dead. That would explain the loss of 7 seconds and the substitution penalty (if they initially thought they had a full play clock to work with). If the clock had been dead, it could have saved us those 7 seconds and that penalty, as well as given us another down to work with.


Title: Re: The Wolf catch
Post by: murfvol on September 27, 2015, 03:17:11 EDT
Yeah, I'm not clear what happened. I thought Smith got out bounds.


Title: Re: The Wolf catch
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on September 27, 2015, 03:25:31 EDT
The clock kept running on Dobbs' fumble out of bounds, too.


Title: Re: The Wolf catch
Post by: Coupe De VOL on September 27, 2015, 03:26:39 EDT
he did not get out of bounds.  his fwd progress was stopped inbounds.  its a routine call and the side judge immediately wound his arm to indicate it.  Wolf needed to fight harder to go fwd outta bounds, not backwards outta bounds...


Title: Re: The Wolf catch
Post by: BanditVol on September 27, 2015, 03:26:48 EDT
To begin, I am not putting this loss on officiating. No way, shape, or form - having said that, the last 10 seconds was very confusing.

On the last completion, did the official initially rule the clock should have stopped? I thought that he did. I also saw Butch talking to the side judge and I assumed he must have been asking if the clock was dead.

I think it is possible our staff thought the clock was dead. That would explain the loss of 7 seconds and the substitution penalty (if they initially thought they had a full play clock to work with). If the clock had been dead, it could have saved us those 7 seconds and that penalty, as well as given us another down to work with.


It was more than that.  I thought the Dobbs fumble should have stopped the clock, though I am no expert on the rules.  I also constantly saw the clock start early on first downs and not stop for 2-3 seconds after the whistle on our last drive.

Let me be clear...that is NOT why we lost.  But I don't have to like that we got screwed on that last drive, either.   :bird:


Title: Re: The Wolf catch
Post by: Coupe De VOL on September 27, 2015, 03:28:54 EDT
The clock kept running on Dobbs' fumble out of bounds, too.

yeah, they marked it at the spot of the fumble.  there may be a special "end of game" rule that applies, im not sure.


Title: Re: The Wolf catch
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on September 27, 2015, 03:48:49 EDT
he did not get out of bounds.  his fwd progress was stopped inbounds.  its a routine call and the side judge immediately wound his arm to indicate it.  Wolf needed to fight harder to go fwd outta bounds, not backwards outta bounds...

Ok, thanks. I didn't see the side judge give a wind clock signal. I did see Butch talking to him and assumed he wanted to know the clock situation. The official who was at the spot of the reception did not give a wind clock signal - unless it was after the camera left the sidelines.