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Title: See, here's the thing...
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on September 17, 2017, 03:59:09 EDT
We should be really well set up for next year.  Here are the starters we stand to lose, barring any attrition:

Coleman Thomas and Jashon Robertson- although we've recruited really well on the OL, and we'll get Chance Hall back.  So I still think the OL should be improved next year.

Ethan Wolfe- He'll be tough to replace, with no obvious answers on the current roster or in the current recruiting class.  We may not use a TE much next year.

Kendall Vickers- but we still have K-Mac and Tuttle, and a great batch of DTs in the current class.  And all of our key DEs are back.  The DL should be a strength next year.

Justin Martin, Emannuel Mosely, and Todd Kelly- though if the news on Kelly is true, we should get him back after all.  As for the other two- bye.  We shouldn't see much dropoff in the secondary next year.  They may even be better.

And that's it.  We'll also get Kirkland and Jennings back.  This should be a very good team next year.

Notice how many times I've emphasized the word "should".  Under some competent sideline leadership, this group could really thrive.  But if this bunch is still being coached by the same staff...well, I have very little confidence.  Remember Dooley's final season, when we returned 20 starters?  Welp... :frown:


Title: Re: See, here's the thing...
Post by: FLVOL on September 17, 2017, 04:03:29 EDT
what's the deal with Kelly? I must have missed it....


Title: Re: See, here's the thing...
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on September 17, 2017, 04:05:37 EDT
what's the deal with Kelly? I must have missed it....

Some undisclosed leg injury, rumored to be out for the year.  So he should qualify for a medical redshirt.


Title: Re: See, here's the thing...
Post by: VinnieVOL on September 17, 2017, 04:16:54 EDT
We should be really well set up for next year.  Here are the starters we stand to lose, barring any attrition:

Coleman Thomas and Jashon Robertson- although we've recruited really well on the OL, and we'll get Chance Hall back.  So I still think the OL should be improved next year.

Ethan Wolfe- He'll be tough to replace, with no obvious answers on the current roster or in the current recruiting class.  We may not use a TE much next year.

Kendall Vickers- but we still have K-Mac and Tuttle, and a great batch of DTs in the current class.  And all of our key DEs are back.  The DL should be a strength next year.

Justin Martin, Emannuel Mosely, and Todd Kelly- though if the news on Kelly is true, we should get him back after all.  As for the other two- bye.  We shouldn't see much dropoff in the secondary next year.  They may even be better.

And that's it.  We'll also get Kirkland and Jennings back.  This should be a very good team next year.

Notice how many times I've emphasized the word "should".  Under some competent sideline leadership, this group could really thrive.  But if this bunch is still being coached by the same staff...well, I have very little confidence.  Remember Dooley's final season, when we returned 20 starters?  Welp... :frown:

And if you think in terms of a coaching search... Should be a relative favorable situation to present to candidates, too.


Title: Re: See, here's the thing...
Post by: murfvol on September 17, 2017, 04:17:09 EDT
Great summary BDV. That's a great situation.


Title: Re: See, here's the thing...
Post by: PirateVOL on September 17, 2017, 08:01:19 EDT
The improved replacement for Wolf is on the roster


Title: Re: See, here's the thing...
Post by: BanditVol on September 17, 2017, 08:14:08 EDT
Pssst....Mr. Jumper.  Please don't leave him off the list of those going.  Thanks!   :biggrin:


Title: Re: See, here's the thing...
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on September 17, 2017, 01:45:33 EDT
Pssst....Mr. Jumper.  Please don't leave him off the list of those going.  Thanks!   :biggrin:

Well, I wasn't counting him as a starter, as it seems he's lost his job a!ready, and Kirkland will be back anyway.  But yes, he's gone too.


Title: Re: See, here's the thing...
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on September 17, 2017, 01:56:45 EDT
Forgot to mention, we'll also lose our three main specialists.  Daniel will be greatly missed.  Evan Berry has been the best return guy in America for four years now, but we've already shown this year that we have lots of good options for that role.  Medley?  Addition by subtraction.


Title: Re: See, here's the thing...
Post by: BanditVol on September 17, 2017, 02:12:58 EDT
Forgot to mention, we'll also lose our three main specialists.  Daniel will be greatly missed.  Evan Berry has been the best return guy in America for four years now, but we've already shown this year that we have lots of good options for that role.  Medley?  Addition by subtraction.

Medley has failed to live up to potential, unfortunately.  Is Berry a senior?  I was thinking Junior.


Title: Re: See, here's the thing...
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on September 17, 2017, 02:49:55 EDT
Medley has failed to live up to potential, unfortunately.  Is Berry a senior?  I was thinking Junior.

Senior.  Unless this injury keeps him out for the year, then he could get a medical redshirt.


Title: Re: See, here's the thing...
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on September 17, 2017, 02:56:43 EDT
John Kelly is most likely gone to the NFL one this season is over.  If he continues to play like he has this far, and I think he will barring injury, he will get a good paycheck next year.


Title: Re: See, here's the thing...
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on September 17, 2017, 02:58:49 EDT
John Kelly is most likely gone to the NFL one this season is over.  If he continues to play like he has this far, and I think he will barring injury, he will get a good paycheck next year.

I would think that he's too small to be considered a high-level NFL prospect, but we'll see.


Title: Re: See, here's the thing...
Post by: JeffCountyVolFan on September 17, 2017, 03:36:55 EDT
As a Vol fan I selfishly hope that you are right, as I'd love to see him in the orange and white for another year. As a John Kelly fan, I hope you are wrong.  :smile:


Title: Re: See, here's the thing...
Post by: BanditVol on September 17, 2017, 05:36:16 EDT
As a Vol fan I selfishly hope that you are right, as I'd love to see him in the orange and white for another year. As a John Kelly fan, I hope you are wrong.  :smile:

Agree...want him back. He has not been mentioned as ideal for NFL, unlike Kamara. Just off the top of my head he loves to run over and through college DBs. That wont be happening in the NFL much, if at all.


Title: Re: See, here's the thing...
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on September 17, 2017, 05:52:52 EDT
He's listed at 5'9", 205.  Just by the eyeball test, I would say the 5'9" is being very generous, but the 205 is probably too low.  He also probably won't blow anyone away with his combine numbers.  I think he was only listed as running a 4.7 coming out of HS- though he'll probably do well in the strength metrics.