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Title: Injuries and youth are reasons to lose to Bammer or LSU or Arky or
Post by: ReVOLver on November 26, 2011, 09:34:18 EST
Georgia or maybe even SC or UF at the Swamp.

Today... there are no excuses. None whatsoever. Horrible effort by the players, horrible effort by the coaches, bad football. I am embarrassed to be a Tennessee fan.


Title: Re: Injuries and youth are reasons to lose to Bammer or LSU or Arky or
Post by: ReVOLver on November 26, 2011, 09:35:07 EST
Last in the SEC East. LAST.

Behind UK AND VU.

Pathetic.


Title: Re: Injuries and youth are reasons to lose to Bammer or LSU or Arky or
Post by: volmeister on November 26, 2011, 09:35:40 EST
Georgia or maybe even SC or UF at the Swamp.

Today... there are no excuses. None whatsoever. Horrible effort by the players, horrible effort by the coaches, bad football. I am embarrassed to be a Tennessee fan.

This was almost as bad as the 96 Memphis game.  Derek Dooleys seat is warming.


Title: Re: Injuries and youth are reasons to lose to Bammer or LSU or Arky or
Post by: ReVOLver on November 26, 2011, 09:36:23 EST
This was almost as bad as the 96 Memphis game.  Derek Dooleys seat is warming.


Worse. The streak is over.


Title: Re: Injuries and youth are reasons to lose to Bammer or LSU or Arky or
Post by: VinnieVOL on November 26, 2011, 09:40:30 EST
Worse. The streak is over.

Dittoz.  This is as bad as it gets.  Rock bottom, if you will.


Title: Re: Injuries and youth are reasons to lose to Bammer or LSU or Arky or
Post by: BigOrange Maniac on November 26, 2011, 09:47:35 EST
Yes, it was worse. And Dooley's seat is red hot. I know 90% of folks won't agree with my stance on the coaching situation, but regardless of that, if Dooley doesn't get at least 8 wins next year, he's gonna be toast.

Frankly, I would rather go ahead and suck it up and do it. Maybe we can get a coach in whose teams at least play fundamental football even when they're short a few players.

I don't so much have a problem with a 5-7 record and last place finish in the East. My problem is with the way we played the game as the season unfolded.


Title: Re: Injuries and youth are reasons to lose to Bammer or LSU or Arky or
Post by: murfvol on November 26, 2011, 10:08:57 EST
He's got to at least make changes on the offensive side of the ball. And yes, even if he does make changes he has to win 8 or 9 next year. The thing that strikes me here is the problems that were noted against Buffalo, Cincy, Montana, etc. are still present. We can't run.


Title: Re: Injuries and youth are reasons to lose to Bammer or LSU or Arky or
Post by: VinnieVOL on November 26, 2011, 10:19:08 EST
Yes, it was worse. And Dooley's seat is red hot. I know 90% of folks won't agree with my stance on the coaching situation, but regardless of that, if Dooley doesn't get at least 8 wins next year, he's gonna be toast.

Frankly, I would rather go ahead and suck it up and do it. Maybe we can get a coach in whose teams at least play fundamental football even when they're short a few players.

I don't so much have a problem with a 5-7 record and last place finish in the East. My problem is with the way we played the game as the season unfolded.

I don't fault you at all for your stance.  I can totally understand that view, I just think the odds of us lucking up and landing a winner aren't good with the way things are.  Even if we broke the bank and offered $5 mil per year.. what big name coach would want to step into this situation?


Title: Re: Injuries and youth are reasons to lose to Bammer or LSU or Arky or
Post by: ChattanoogaVol on November 26, 2011, 10:35:40 EST
Get rid of him now................................he can't blame this one on lack of talent.......................................I was not happy with his hiring from day one.

4 sure wins on the schedule and we lose the big games bad...............and can't beat a shizzlety UK team to get 6 wins.      :wtf:

We have a horrible offensive staff and they can keep Dooley and go............
 :powert:


Title: Re: Injuries and youth are reasons to lose to Bammer or LSU or Arky or
Post by: ChattanoogaVol on November 26, 2011, 10:37:04 EST
shizzlety game plan, shizzlety coaching, shizzlety execution......................did i miss anything?

 :powert:


Title: Re: Injuries and youth are reasons to lose to Bammer or LSU or Arky or
Post by: ChattanoogaVol on November 26, 2011, 10:39:16 EST
I don't fault you at all for your stance.  I can totally understand that view, I just think the odds of us lucking up and landing a winner aren't good with the way things are.  Even if we broke the bank and offered $5 mil per year.. what big name coach would want to step into this situation?

For 4-5 million/yr we could hire Gruden or Cowher, or lure someone else away from another program...................it will just cost us that to do it.

 :powert:


Title: Re: Injuries and youth are reasons to lose to Bammer or LSU or Arky or
Post by: VinnieVOL on November 26, 2011, 10:40:47 EST
There's no way we get get either of those guys no matter how much we offer.  That's ridiculous.


Title: Re: Injuries and youth are reasons to lose to Bammer or LSU or Arky or
Post by: murfvol on November 26, 2011, 10:43:55 EST
How much more do we owe Fulmer?


Title: Re: Injuries and youth are reasons to lose to Bammer or LSU or Arky or
Post by: ChattanoogaVol on November 26, 2011, 10:46:02 EST
There's no way we get get either of those guys no matter how much we offer.  That's ridiculous.

why, because you say so?................my point was for that money we could hire a GOOD and proven coach


Title: Re: Injuries and youth are reasons to lose to Bammer or LSU or Arky or
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on November 26, 2011, 11:03:28 EST
For 4-5 million/yr we could hire Gruden or Cowher, or lure someone else away from another program...................it will just cost us that to do it.

 :powert:

 :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Why don't we just get the rumor mill started on the old standbys like Phil Fulmer, Butch Davis, and Lovie Smith while were at it? :frown:

Like it or not, Dooley's not going anywhere for at least a year.  And if he wins less than 9 next year (including 5 in the SEC), then I'll be right there beside you demanding his ouster. 

Check the archives from January 2010: I doubted Dooley's hire from the start.  And I still do.  But now is the not the time to make yet another change.  We're on track for another top 15 recruiting class.  Get them all enrolled, and we'll have enough talent to compete with the top of the SEC.  Whether Dooley is the guy to coach that talent is yet to be determined.  But let him go, and this class probably falls apart, along with a huge chunk of our existing roster.  Now is not the time for kneejerk reactions.


Title: Re: Injuries and youth are reasons to lose to Bammer or LSU or Arky or
Post by: ChattanoogaVol on November 26, 2011, 11:09:30 EST
I know there may be some downside, but after watching this team look like shizzle against even descent competition and losing to UK tops it for me.......
I say we would not be much worse off, and we would build a stonger foundation for the future instead of being a horrible team like we are now.................

We are on Rocky Bottom now.............................make the tough decision now.

 :powert:


Title: Re: Injuries and youth are reasons to lose to Bammer or LSU or Arky or
Post by: VinnieVOL on November 26, 2011, 11:10:38 EST
why, because you say so?................my point was for that money we could hire a GOOD and proven coach

No, my point is some situations good and proven coaches want no part of.. for any amount of money.  TN is a very tough rebuilding job.


Title: Re: Injuries and youth are reasons to lose to Bammer or LSU or Arky or
Post by: BigOrange Maniac on November 26, 2011, 11:22:58 EST
If we're seriously suggesting that Cowher or Gruden might come to TN, I'm going to feel like I've stepped straight into the volnation forums.  :biggrin:

However, I don't think UT would be nearly as tough to sell right now as it was 2 years ago. There is lots of young talent on this team. Plus we have a new AD...that's a total unproven, but who's to say he isn't going to be better at luring a good football coach to Knoxville than Hamilton was?


Title: Re: Injuries and youth are reasons to lose to Bammer or LSU or Arky or
Post by: tnflower on November 26, 2011, 11:25:49 EST
I'm glad we won't be going to a bowl. How embarrassing would that be if we played in a bowl the way we played today?  :frown:


Title: Re: Injuries and youth are reasons to lose to Bammer or LSU or Arky or
Post by: ChattanoogaVol on November 26, 2011, 11:32:14 EST
No, my point is some situations good and proven coaches want no part of.. for any amount of money.  TN is a very tough rebuilding job.

So were other SEC teams...................and they have got what they $$$$ for

 :powert: