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Title: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: ReVOLver on May 22, 2012, 05:24:40 EDT
Who would they be?

I think one of mine would have to be a great RB. I would probably go with Travis Henry over Jamal Lewis.

The other one is a little tougher. I think Herman Lathers is going to be hardpressed to stay healthy, so I want to pick Al Wilson at ILB. I also think that while we have some talent in the secondary, a Deon Grant or Dale Carter could really help. But in the end, the choice for me comes down to DL / OLB. I considered Shaun Ellis at rush DT, but I think I would pick Leonard Little to play the Jack LB spot. When he came to Tennessee at like 220 pounds, he would've been a terror standing up rushing the passer.

I'm curious to see what others think. Would somebody add Peyton or one of our great WRs even though we seem to have talent at those spots?


Title: Re: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: VinnieVOL on May 22, 2012, 05:43:12 EDT
Two different combinations come to mind.

1. Like you, a great rb and a lb.  I'd have to choose Jamal Lewis and Leonard Little.

2. Add Peyton and a great db.  Deon Grant/Jason Parker/Dale Carter/Jason Allen... Man, that's a toughie.

Tell you what though, I'm close to saying Dustin Colquitt.  Sounds nuts to include a punter.. But he was a game changer.


Title: Re: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: ReVOLver on May 22, 2012, 05:46:02 EDT
Two different combinations come to mind.

1. Like you, a great rb and a lb.  I'd have to choose Jamal Lewis and Leonard Little.

2. Add Peyton and a great db.  Deon Grant/Jason Parker/Dale Carter/Jason Allen... Man, that's a toughie.

Tell you what though, I'm close to saying Dustin Colquitt.  Sounds nuts to include a punter.. But he was a game changer.

I don't think that's nuts at all. He won an OT game against SC all by himself once.


Title: Re: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: ReVOLver on May 22, 2012, 05:46:36 EDT
Two different combinations come to mind.

1. Like you, a great rb and a lb.  I'd have to choose Jamal Lewis and Leonard Little.

2. Add Peyton and a great db.  Deon Grant/Jason Parker/Dale Carter/Jason Allen... Man, that's a toughie.

Tell you what though, I'm close to saying Dustin Colquitt.  Sounds nuts to include a punter.. But he was a game changer.

Also funny how both of us mentioned DBs but didn't say EB. Weird.


Title: Re: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on May 22, 2012, 05:48:51 EDT
I'd probably take Chuck Webb, just because he was a constant homerun threat, but a more physical guy like Henry or Stewart would probably fit this offense better.  

I'll go off the wall with my other pick:  Fuad Reveiz.  I'm sick of 37 yard FGs basically being a coin flip.  Fuad was money on anything inside 50 yards.  When we reach the opponent's 30, I want to be able to say to myself, "We're guaranteed at least 3 points here".


Title: Re: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: ReVOLver on May 22, 2012, 05:57:15 EDT
I'd probably take Chuck Webb, just because he was a constant homerun threat, but a more physical guy like Henry or Stewart would probably fit this offense better.  

I'll go off the wall with my other pick:  Fuad Reveiz.  I'm sick of 37 yard FGs basically being a coin flip.  Fuad was money on anything inside 50 yards.  When we reach the opponent's 30, I want to be able to say to myself, "We're guaranteed at least 3 points here".

Again I don't think a kicker is so off the wall. We have left a lot of points on the field since Wilhoit left, including at least one win and maybe more that I'm not thinking of.


Title: Re: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: VinnieVOL on May 22, 2012, 06:02:00 EDT
Again I don't think a kicker is so off the wall. We have left a lot of points on the field since Wilhoit left, including at least one win and maybe more that I'm not thinking of.

It would take so much pressure off our young players on both sides if we had an automatic kicking game.


Title: Re: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: BigOrange Maniac on May 22, 2012, 06:06:34 EDT
Peyton Manning, Joey Kent, Carl Pickens, Chuck Webb, Jeff Hall, Al Wilson, Eric Berry, Deon Grant, Darryl Hardy, Leonard Little.

Oh, wait, did you say two? Well, Nick Saban says that if the NCAA says you can have two, they really mean you can have 10. So give me all of them.

(Edit: I had to resubmit this post twice because of "Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post." Could this actually be assumed an active VTTW thread? (http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo29/pigletmph/17377fbc.gif)


Title: Re: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: VoLynteer on May 22, 2012, 06:10:45 EDT
Heath Shuler  :clap:
Dirk Borgonone


Title: Re: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: ReVOLver on May 22, 2012, 06:11:37 EDT
Peyton Manning, Joey Kent, Carl Pickens, Chuck Webb, Jeff Hall, Al Wilson, Eric Berry, Deon Grant, Darryl Hardy, Leonard Little.

Oh, wait, did you say two? Well, Nick Saban says that if the NCAA says you can have two, they really mean you can have 10. So give me all of them.

(Edit: I had to resubmit this post twice because of "Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post." Could this actually be assumed an active VTTW thread? (http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo29/pigletmph/17377fbc.gif)

You know you can turn off those notifications, right?

I will admit something... I gave thought to not renewing the hosting for VTTW. If the drop dead date had been two weeks ago, I probably would've let it go. But the date was next week, which is inside the 100 days, so I figured what the hell... I'll hang on for another year and see what happens. (I already let the VTTW.net domain go, FWIW.)


Title: Re: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: BigOrange Maniac on May 22, 2012, 06:17:07 EDT
You know you can turn off those notifications, right?


Yeah.

If you let VolsToTheWall go and force me to start reading VolNation or Gridscape, I will hate you forever.


Title: Re: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: ReVOLver on May 22, 2012, 06:19:29 EDT
Yeah.

If you let VolsToTheWall go and force me to start reading VolNation or Gridscape, I will hate you forever.

I have gone through that lull before where I don't enjoy posting about UT or reading the board and think about letting it go. It usually passes. Luckily it passed again. I probably considered it more this year than in years prior.

I have also considered canceling my VQ and 247 subs. I probably will cancel 247... I don't get anything of value there. VQ is usually good for practice coverage and recruiting but the board sucks.


Title: Re: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: RockyMtnVol on May 22, 2012, 06:25:02 EDT
John Henderson  :dude:


Title: Re: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: VinnieVOL on May 22, 2012, 07:27:56 EDT
I have gone through that lull before where I don't enjoy posting about UT or reading the board and think about letting it go. It usually passes. Luckily it passed again. I probably considered it more this year than in years prior.

I have also considered canceling my VQ and 247 subs. I probably will cancel 247... I don't get anything of value there. VQ is usually good for practice coverage and recruiting but the board sucks.


Likewise, this is the first year I've thought "if it weren't for Dad, I wouldn't want to go to the games this fall".


Title: Re: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: BigOrange Maniac on May 22, 2012, 07:37:33 EDT
I'm not going to make an effort to pick up season tickets this year and really figured the only game I would go to would be Florida. But I guess I'm like Revolver. The closer we get, the more my enthusiasm increases. By the time August gets here I'll probably be making plans to attend as many games as possible.


Title: Re: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: Volznut on May 22, 2012, 08:23:35 EDT
Chuck Webb  - IMO the best UT back from a talent standpoint ever

Fuad Reveiz - IMO our placekicking will cost us

edit: I didn't read BDV's post when I wrote the above.




Title: Re: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: Inspector Vol on May 22, 2012, 08:59:32 EDT
I want the two meanest guards to ever play at UT. Whoever they are. I have watched some of these old videos lately and some of those guys would pull around and just bury their man.  :thumbup:


Title: Re: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: Volcreed on May 22, 2012, 09:50:39 EDT

Al Wilson---for nasty
Reggie White---for even more nasty thou Reggie would bless after he destoryed you.


Peyton----I take any day, but I think Bray has very nice year in 2012.


Title: Re: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: BanditVol on May 22, 2012, 09:54:49 EDT
Also funny how both of us mentioned DBs but didn't say EB. Weird.

I was going to say something about it, but you noticed it yourself.   :biggrin:


Title: Re: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: BanditVol on May 22, 2012, 09:56:44 EDT
Again I don't think a kicker is so off the wall. We have left a lot of points on the field since Wilhoit left, including at least one win and maybe more that I'm not thinking of.

No excuse for how our kickers performed last year.  Palardy was really highly rated coming out of HS.  Then again, his STATS don't really look that bad, so maybe some of it in his case is perception (missing at bad times, etc).  But there is NO EXCUSE for the punting...we only averaged 36 ypg.   :hurl: :frown: :mad:

I meant to add that this is the one area I expect SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENT in.  Anything less is an indictment of Dooley.  As bad as we were last year in all aspects of the game, we have talent (on paper at least) in the kicking game and we should expect far better performance.


Title: Re: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: BanditVol on May 22, 2012, 10:02:32 EDT
I agree on the RB, but I might pick Cobb, I don't know.  Between Henry and Lewis I would favor Lewis by a small amount.  He was faster and more athletic, though Henry had the pure strength and could often make yards on his own (with our current run blocking woes, maybe a  good thing).

And for DB, I would definitely go with EB.

If I had to take a LB, it would be Al Wilson for sure.

But...IMO our biggest challenge on D is the DL.  So I am going to say Lewis as RB and John Henderson on the DL.

Those are the two...honorable mention is Chad Clifton at OL.   :biggrin:

IMO, other than RB, we mostly need help on the lines (but fourth I would take EB at DB).


Title: Re: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: ReVOLver on May 22, 2012, 10:13:02 EDT
I agree on the RB, but I might pick Cobb, I don't know.  Between Henry and Lewis I would favor Lewis by a small amount.  He was faster and more athletic, though Henry had the pure strength and could often make yards on his own (with our current run blocking woes, maybe a  good thing).

And for DB, I would definitely go with EB.

If I had to take a LB, it would be Al Wilson for sure.

But...IMO our biggest challenge on D is the DL.  So I am going to say Lewis as RB and John Henderson on the DL.

Those are the two...honorable mention is Chad Clifton at OL.   :biggrin:

IMO, other than RB, we mostly need help on the lines (but fourth I would take EB at DB).

I think the OL problem last year was one of coaching, not talent, so I'm not convinced that help is needed there. I think they are pretty deep and pretty talented.

On defense we are counting on a lot of people to make big steps or big first time impacts, especially on the line.


Title: Re: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: VinnieVOL on May 22, 2012, 10:46:10 EDT
I think the OL problem last year was one of coaching, not talent, so I'm not convinced that help is needed there. I think they are pretty deep and pretty talented.

On defense we are counting on a lot of people to make big steps or big first time impacts, especially on the line.

Anyone know if we will employ a zone blocking scheme again?


Title: Re: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: 10EC on May 22, 2012, 10:49:19 EDT
Again I don't think a kicker is so off the wall. We have left a lot of points on the field since Wilhoit left, including at least one win and maybe more that I'm not thinking of.

We left that one win on the field twice as I recall.

That big fata$$


Title: Re: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: Quasi EVol on May 23, 2012, 12:31:12 EDT
General Neyland & David Cutcliffe.  :bawl:


Title: Re: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: PirateVOL on May 23, 2012, 02:25:36 EDT
I think the OL problem last year was one of coaching, not talent, so I'm not convinced that help is needed there. I think they are pretty deep and pretty talented.

On defense we are counting on a lot of people to make big steps or big first time impacts, especially on the line.
I tend to agree with you Re: coaching.  Constant screaming and profanity works for only a short period of time.  If we can get the pulling guards to hit the right hole then I will be far happier.  There was one (short drive) last year where the right guard pulled too far inside, totally negating the main purpose of pulling the guard.  There were way too many individual breakdowns on the OL last year.  If they can play consistently as a unit we will be miles ahead, if Graham can keep the RBs from dancing.

As an aside, I am still not convinced that Bullard is the answer at center.  If Stone loses out at RG I think he is a far better answer at center, snapping left handed.  I consider Bullar the 6the best lineman, at best, probably closer to the 7th best in my view.  He got beat time, after time, after time last year.

As to your original qustion, I think I would go with H&H green stamps, as in Henderson for the DL and Henry at RB.  Honorable mention to the most likely greatest leader of the VOLS in my adult life in Al Wilson, who, IMO, single handidly (with an assist from Grant) beat the crocs in '98. :nod:


Title: Re: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: BanditVol on May 23, 2012, 05:46:10 EDT
I agree on the RB, but I might pick Cobb, I don't know.  Between Henry and Lewis I would favor Lewis by a small amount.  He was faster and more athletic, though Henry had the pure strength and could often make yards on his own (with our current run blocking woes, maybe a  good thing).

And for DB, I would definitely go with EB.

If I had to take a LB, it would be Al Wilson for sure.

But...IMO our biggest challenge on D is the DL.  So I am going to say Lewis as RB and John Henderson on the DL.

Those are the two...honorable mention is Chad Clifton at OL.   :biggrin:

IMO, other than RB, we mostly need help on the lines (but fourth I would take EB at DB).

On second thought, I'll take Reggie White over John Henderson, but I might take both if we didn't need so much help at RB.


Title: Re: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: PirateVOL on May 23, 2012, 11:46:18 EDT
On second thought, I'll take Reggie White over John Henderson, but I might take both if we didn't need so much help at RB.
My choice of Henderson over White is that while a VOL, Reggie only had one good season, though that was a darn good one.


Title: Re: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: BanditVol on May 23, 2012, 04:36:37 EDT
My choice of Henderson over White is that while a VOL, Reggie only had one good season, though that was a darn good one.

Hard to go wrong with either of those guys. 


Title: Re: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: 73Volgrad on May 24, 2012, 01:59:37 EDT
Hacksaw Reynolds (that man Hated to lose) and any placekicker from the past that was able to kick the ball higher than chest high at the line of scrimmage.


Title: Re: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: LouisVOL on May 24, 2012, 08:09:41 EDT
Carl Pickens, play him both ways, and Steve Kiner, if ever we have had someone perfect for the 3-4, Kiner would be my choice.

Any of the great RB, and any of the great DB would be OK with me.  We need game changers.

Agree with others that punter and placekicker would not be a bad choice.


Title: Re: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: tnflower on May 27, 2012, 07:30:17 EDT
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Again I don't think a kicker is so off the wall. We have left a lot of points on the field since Wilhoit left, including at least one win and maybe more that I'm not thinking of.

If we are thinking about kickers, Jeff Hall should get a shout out. He made the difference in a few games the year we won the NC.


Title: Re: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: midtnvol on May 27, 2012, 08:58:38 EDT
     Doug Atkins was absolutely dominating getting accolades from everyone including George Halas who said he was the best football player at any position he ever saw.
    
     Peyton Manning makes everybody around him better.


Title: Re: If you could pick two Vols from any era to put on this team
Post by: BanditVol on May 27, 2012, 10:58:21 EDT
     Doug Atkins was absolutely dominating getting accolades from everyone including George Halas who said he was the best football player ant any position he ever saw.
     
     Peyton Manning makes everybody around him better.

Doug Atkins would be great so long as his talent was proportional to today.  Would be a great choice in that case.