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Title: Interesting to read this now
Post by: ReVOLver on September 26, 2012, 04:33:35 EDT
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2010-01-15/hamiltons-fumbling-coaching-search-will-cost-tennessee


Title: Re: Interesting to read this now
Post by: VinnieVOL on September 26, 2012, 04:41:29 EDT
Wow.  Eerie and ominous.


Title: Re: Interesting to read this now
Post by: BanditVol on September 26, 2012, 04:47:06 EDT
Spot on.  Gotta think Hart is much better at this.


Title: Re: Interesting to read this now
Post by: murfvol on September 27, 2012, 08:12:21 EDT
I disagreed with Hamiliton on some things, but when it came to hiring football and basketball coaches he was pretty good at finding winners. Dooley hasn't won yet (and may not), but he'll at least leave the program in very good shape.

Kiffin may be a reprobate, but he can coach, and even with the NCAA stuff Pearl was absolutely worth it.


Title: Re: Interesting to read this now
Post by: Clockwork Orange on September 27, 2012, 08:34:42 EDT
I disagreed with Hamiliton on some things, but when it came to hiring football and basketball coaches he was pretty good at finding winners. Dooley hasn't won yet (and may not), but he'll at least leave the program in very good shape.

Kiffin may be a reprobate, but he can coach, and even with the NCAA stuff Pearl was absolutely worth it.

He made six major hires . . . Kiffin, Dooley, Pearl, Martin, Raleigh, and Serrano; the fact that he had to hire two coaches in each of the major sports in just 8 years as AD is a testament to how poorly he hired, IMO. Kiffin and Raleigh were disasters in different ways; Pearl was a good hire that (IMO) ended in a manner that was partially botched by Hamilton; Dooley appears to be a failed hire; Martin and Serrano are TBD.

So at best I think Hamilton was 3-for-6, and that's if you count Pearl despite the way that ended and if you count Martin and Serrano where it is too early to judge.


Title: Re: Interesting to read this now
Post by: Memphisvolunteer on September 27, 2012, 08:55:34 EDT
Like I said in an earlier thread....Time and time again, you can see that Hamilton, while a great fundrasier, knew nothing about hiring a coach.  He screwed up when he fired Fulmer without having a replacement hire in his back pocket.  I have greater hope in the coaching search with Hart at the helm since he was at FSU and Bama and knows what it takes to be successful in football.



Title: Re: Interesting to read this now
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on September 27, 2012, 09:04:16 EDT
He made six major hires . . . Kiffin, Dooley, Pearl, Martin, Raleigh, and Serrano; the fact that he had to hire two coaches in each of the major sports in just 8 years as AD is a testament to how poorly he hired, IMO. Kiffin and Raleigh were disasters in different ways; Pearl was a good hire that (IMO) ended in a manner that was partially botched by Hamilton; Dooley appears to be a failed hire; Martin and Serrano are TBD.

So at best I think Hamilton was 3-for-6, and that's if you count Pearl despite the way that ended and if you count Martin and Serrano where it is too early to judge.

Actually, Serrano was hired by Joan Cronan after Hamilton left.


Title: Re: Interesting to read this now
Post by: Clockwork Orange on September 27, 2012, 09:16:55 EDT
Actually, Serrano was hired by Joan Cronan after Hamilton left.

I was thinking that was post-Hamilton but came across a story that mixed me up. Thanks for the correction . . . so 2-for-5 at best.


Title: Re: Interesting to read this now
Post by: PirateVOL on September 27, 2012, 11:55:49 EDT
Actually, Serrano was hired by Joan Cronan after Hamilton left.
True that Joan made the formal hire but the search was Hamilton's


Title: Re: Interesting to read this now
Post by: PirateVOL on September 27, 2012, 11:56:44 EDT
I was thinking that was post-Hamilton but came across a story that mixed me up. Thanks for the correction . . . so 2-for-5 at best.
Your point is spot on though


Title: Re: Interesting to read this now
Post by: BanditVol on September 28, 2012, 03:03:29 EDT
I think the jury is out on Kiffin being a better than average coach.  His wins vs. uga and USC were impressive, but Auburn, UCLA, Kentucky, Ole Miss and the bowl game were not.

Now he has what is likely to be his best team at USCw and has lost yet again to Stanford, and will likely drop another game or two by the end of the season.  

I think he's gone from USCw in a couple years and will be basically unable to find a job.


Title: Re: Interesting to read this now
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on September 28, 2012, 03:30:17 EDT
He made six major hires . . . Kiffin, Dooley, Pearl, Martin, Raleigh, and Serrano; the fact that he had to hire two coaches in each of the major sports in just 8 years as AD is a testament to how poorly he hired, IMO. Kiffin and Raleigh were disasters in different ways; Pearl was a good hire that (IMO) ended in a manner that was partially botched by Hamilton; Dooley appears to be a failed hire; Martin and Serrano are TBD.

So at best I think Hamilton was 3-for-6, and that's if you count Pearl despite the way that ended and if you count Martin and Serrano where it is too early to judge.

Also, while I believe that Martin will prove to be a good hire (if he hasn't already), the hiring process itself was botched beyond belief.  You don't float big names like Jamie Dixon and Jay Wright and then end up with a relative unknown.  That put Martin behind the 8 ball before he even got started. :frown: