Title: Everyone is worried about George Lucas selling out to Disney? Post by: Volznut on October 31, 2012, 05:44:27 EDT The hell with that! More star wars movies in 2015! Epic!
Title: Re: Everyone is worried about George Lucas selling out to Disney? Post by: GreggO on October 31, 2012, 06:12:19 EDT The hell with that! More star wars movies in 2015! Epic! Think so? Now, I think you are one of the most educated posters here, but I can't do the Star Wars backward movies. Loved the first one, but don't get my imagination running backwards! Dunno, might be my age. And I'll agree that I'm not the most forward thinking guy either, but I try. Run the story backwards and I'm off the boat! Now, my son Chris loved that stuff but I never got on board. I do think it will be a good collaboration, though. G Title: Re: Everyone is worried about George Lucas selling out to Disney? Post by: Volznut on October 31, 2012, 06:19:39 EDT Think so? Now, I think you are one of the most educated posters here, but I can't do the Star Wars backward movies. Loved the first one, but don't get my imagination running backwards! Dunno, might be my age. And I'll agree that I'm not the most forward thinking guy either, but I try. Run the story backwards and I'm off the boat! Now, my son Chris loved that stuff but I never got on board. I do think it will be a good collaboration, though. G Backward? It would be episode 7, 8, and 9, and explore what happens to Luke, Leia, and han. Not sure what it has to do with being educated? :confused: Title: Re: Everyone is worried about George Lucas selling out to Disney? Post by: Black Diamond Vol on October 31, 2012, 12:55:44 EDT The hell with that! More star wars movies in 2015! Epic! When I first heard that, I groaned. But then I read that Lucas isn't going to be involved, so maybe they'll be pretty good. Maybe a reboot of the franchise is in order. Title: Re: Everyone is worried about George Lucas selling out to Disney? Post by: VinnieVOL on October 31, 2012, 01:37:08 EDT The hell with that! More star wars movies in 2015! Epic! I agree. Awesome move. Should be epic, indeed. Disney knows how to make good movies. Title: Re: Everyone is worried about George Lucas selling out to Disney? Post by: Clockwork Orange on October 31, 2012, 02:02:03 EDT But then I read that Lucas isn't going to be involved, so maybe they'll be pretty good. Maybe a reboot of the franchise is in order. Ding ding! I heard this morning that he may be a "consultant" but as long as he doesn't have creative control that's fine with me. The SW universe and characters are big enough for three more movies but they need to be done well . . . and we all know at this point that it wouldn't go well with Lucas. Title: Re: Everyone is worried about George Lucas selling out to Disney? Post by: Stogie Vol on October 31, 2012, 02:03:10 EDT Ding ding! I heard this morning that he may be a "consultant" but as long as he doesn't have creative control that's fine with me. The SW universe and characters are big enough for three more movies but they need to be done well . . . and we all know at this point that it wouldn't go well with Lucas. As long as they bring back JarJar Binks, I'm good with it. Title: Re: Everyone is worried about George Lucas selling out to Disney? Post by: murfvol on October 31, 2012, 02:20:33 EDT There hasn't been a good one since Return of the Jedi. I don't care about special effects, long fight scenes or Jar Jar. The ewoks were tolerable, but side characters. It's about the story. Thank you. That is all.
Title: Re: Everyone is worried about George Lucas selling out to Disney? Post by: Volznut on October 31, 2012, 02:22:44 EDT When I first heard that, I groaned. But then I read that Lucas isn't going to be involved, so maybe they'll be pretty good. Maybe a reboot of the franchise is in order. I read they won't reboot, but make episodes 7-9, and maybe more. Title: Re: Everyone is worried about George Lucas selling out to Disney? Post by: Clockwork Orange on October 31, 2012, 02:28:53 EDT There hasn't been a good one since Return of the Jedi. I made myself enjoy the prequels in the theater because they were Star Wars movies and I had been excited for so long about them. But I haven't rewatched any of them since I saw them in the theater and haven't bought DVDs or Blu-Rays. Considering how easy it is for me to nerd-out on things like this, that is really telling. Title: Re: Everyone is worried about George Lucas selling out to Disney? Post by: Volznut on October 31, 2012, 02:33:28 EDT I made myself enjoy the prequels in the theater because they were Star Wars movies and I had been excited for so long about them. But I haven't rewatched any of them since I saw them in the theater and haven't bought DVDs or Blu-Rays. Considering how easy it is for me to nerd-out on things like this, that is really telling. I thought episode 3 was good. Title: Re: Everyone is worried about George Lucas selling out to Disney? Post by: 10EC on October 31, 2012, 02:40:29 EDT Would be cool if movie 7 has the same actors playing Luke, Leia and Han since they are all still alive.
Title: Re: Everyone is worried about George Lucas selling out to Disney? Post by: Clockwork Orange on October 31, 2012, 02:47:21 EDT I thought episode 3 was good. It was better than the Eps. 1 and 2, but fell far short of the original trilogy IMO. Title: Re: Everyone is worried about George Lucas selling out to Disney? Post by: Volznut on October 31, 2012, 02:47:58 EDT Would be cool if movie 7 has the same actors playing Luke, Leia and Han since they are all still alive. I doubt that happens! Title: Re: Everyone is worried about George Lucas selling out to Disney? Post by: Volznut on October 31, 2012, 02:48:40 EDT It was better than the Eps. 1 and 2, but fell far short of the original trilogy IMO. It fell short of 4 and 5, but I didn't think Return of the Jedi was better. MHO. Title: Re: Everyone is worried about George Lucas selling out to Disney? Post by: BanditVol on October 31, 2012, 03:05:37 EDT I didn't care for Episode 1, the Phantom Menace, but liked 2 and 3 better. 2 had some drama and in 3, I finally got to see the volcano fight scene mentioned way back in the original Star Wars book I bought in the fifth grade in 1977. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Everyone is worried about George Lucas selling out to Disney? Post by: Volznut on October 31, 2012, 03:14:04 EDT I didn't care for Episode 1, the Phantom Menace, but liked 2 and 3 better. 2 had some drama and in 3, I finally got to see the volcano fight scene mentioned way back in the original Star Wars book I bought in the fifth grade in 1977. :biggrin: The kid they got to play Anakin in Phantom Menace was a terrible actor. I know he was a kid, but come on, they couldn't do better than that? Of course Hayden Christiansen in 2 and 3 wasn't much better. :rolleyes: Title: Re: Everyone is worried about George Lucas selling out to Disney? Post by: Clockwork Orange on October 31, 2012, 03:22:51 EDT The kid they got to play Anakin in Phantom Menace was a terrible actor. I know he was a kid, but come on, they couldn't do better than that? Of course Hayden Christiansen in 2 and 3 wasn't much better. :rolleyes: In fairness . . . Mark Hamill was awful in Eps. 4-6 as well, if you rewatch them now. Return of the Jedi was my least favorite of the three but I still think it was a lot better than any of the prequels, Ewoks or no Ewoks. Title: Re: Everyone is worried about George Lucas selling out to Disney? Post by: Volznut on October 31, 2012, 03:44:33 EDT In fairness . . . Mark Hamill was awful in Eps. 4-6 as well, if you rewatch them now. Return of the Jedi was my least favorite of the three but I still think it was a lot better than any of the prequels, Ewoks or no Ewoks. Hamill was bad, yes. I think part of it is that we saw those movies as kids and have fond memories of them. Rewatching them now you do see some of the bad acting. I recently rewatched Goonies again, it wasn't the same! Title: Re: Everyone is worried about George Lucas selling out to Disney? Post by: 10EC on October 31, 2012, 03:55:48 EDT I doubt that happens! Why? It wold be a great handoff for the re-building of the next generation of Jedi.... Title: Re: Everyone is worried about George Lucas selling out to Disney? Post by: Volznut on October 31, 2012, 04:06:24 EDT Why? It wold be a great handoff for the re-building of the next generation of Jedi.... have you seen what Hamill, Ford, and Carrie Fisher look like these days? They're too old for a role in Episode 7 which would, in terms of storyline, pretty much be right after episode 6. They'll need to get young actors. Title: Re: Everyone is worried about George Lucas selling out to Disney? Post by: 10EC on October 31, 2012, 04:42:40 EDT have you seen what Hamill, Ford, and Carrie Fisher look like these days? They're too old for a role in Episode 7 which would, in terms of storyline, pretty much be right after episode 6. They'll need to get young actors. I guess I disagree. If you assume Episode 7 is about a new group of Jedi, then Luke's and Leia would have children in their 20s? Sounds reasonable for their age.I hope they do that. Casting anyone else as Luke, Leia or Han would be a travesty imo. Title: Re: Everyone is worried about George Lucas selling out to Disney? Post by: Coupe De VOL on October 31, 2012, 05:15:33 EDT I took it is being great news. Lucas will still be in an advisory role, but Disney will control it more or less. Apparrently they share some rights to Eps 4-6 with Fox. I thought Eps 1-3 were OK in that they told the part of the story that had been missing for so long, but 'nut is right - they are not all that re-watchable. The best thing about Eps 1-3 and the Clone wars TV show is that they do get into a lot of backstory about characters from Eps 4-6. However, they have never done any back story on Han - I guess that is by design. After they do Eps 7-9, they could create a whole 'nother set of movies just on Han's back story - that would be cool. I would love to see eps 4-6 redone as well sometime down the road. They are indeed classics, but they could be improved upon, IMO.
Title: Re: Everyone is worried about George Lucas selling out to Disney? Post by: Volznut on October 31, 2012, 05:25:25 EDT I guess I disagree. If you assume Episode 7 is about a new group of Jedi, then Luke's and Leia would have children in their 20s? Sounds reasonable for their age. I hope they do that. Casting anyone else as Luke, Leia or Han would be a travesty imo. You'd have to have episode 7 begin about 30 years after episode 6 ends. Doesn't make sense. Title: Re: Everyone is worried about George Lucas selling out to Disney? Post by: Coupe De VOL on October 31, 2012, 05:37:00 EDT You'd have to have episode 7 begin about 30 years after episode 6 ends. Doesn't make sense. I remember about 15 yrs ago someone had an outline of Eps 1-3 and 7-9 online somewhere. They came out on the net right about the same time they started re-releasing Eps 4-6 at the theater leading up to the release of Eps 1-3. The plot outlines for 1-3 were fairly accurate, but the plot outlines for 7-9 were more vague. They had to do with Luke and Leia mostly and I recall some mention of a clone of Luke made through his severed hand and, of course, the clone being an 'evil' Luke. I also remember some plot about yet another superweapon/deathstar in development which sounded kind of lame. Title: Re: Everyone is worried about George Lucas selling out to Disney? Post by: 10EC on October 31, 2012, 06:09:20 EDT You'd have to have episode 7 begin about 30 years after episode 6 ends. Doesn't make sense. What the time difference between Luke/Leia as a baby born in Ep 3 and Where they pick up in Ep 4. I think you could do something similar. Title: Re: Everyone is worried about George Lucas selling out to Disney? Post by: BanditVol on October 31, 2012, 06:55:34 EDT The kid they got to play Anakin in Phantom Menace was a terrible actor. I know he was a kid, but come on, they couldn't do better than that? Of course Hayden Christiansen in 2 and 3 wasn't much better. :rolleyes: Yeah, Episode 1 was too "kiddie" and in the next two Hayden was overly dramatic and the love scenes with Padme were laughably bad. But at least the last two movies had drama and action, which is what I loved about the series to begin with. While the original trilogy and particularly the first film are considered epics, it's easy to lose sight of the fact that Lucas was going for a classic "pulp fiction space opera" that was serious while also being fun. I think the original trilogy looks much better by comparison because (a) it was so new and different at the time, and (b) the special effects were so far beyond what anyone had seen to that point. Also, you have to factor in that stuff looks better when you're younger, as many have noted above. :biggrin: Title: Re: Everyone is worried about George Lucas selling out to Disney? Post by: Volznut on October 31, 2012, 07:10:49 EDT What the time difference between Luke/Leia as a baby born in Ep 3 and Where they pick up in Ep 4. I think you could do something similar. It's about 18 years between 3 and 4 (which is why Alec Guiness as Ben Kenobe doesn't work well, Ewan mcGregor really aged!! LOL), and about 10 years between 4 and 5. However, the story of 7 is supposed to be taking place almost immediately after 6, and focused on Luke starting up Jedi academy again, Leia's marriage to Han, them having a kid (Anakin Solo), etc. I guess you could change it, but they're not going to cast Hammil, Fisher, and Ford, I guarantee you. They'll cast new people, probably in their mid-twenties to early thirties. Title: Re: Everyone is worried about George Lucas selling out to Disney? Post by: Quasi EVol on October 31, 2012, 10:20:49 EDT As long as they bring back JarJar Binks, I'm good with it. (http://s3-ak.buzzfeed.com/static/enhanced/terminal01/2011/7/11/12/enhanced-buzz-5819-1310400835-9.jpg) Title: Re: Everyone is worried about George Lucas selling out to Disney? Post by: Jedi Master on October 31, 2012, 10:44:43 EDT I'm in favor of Disney continuing the series, but I hope they don't make it too kiddie-friendly (ewoks, jar-jar, etc). They could hit a home run if they maintain the dark edge, and take time to develop the story (as they did in the originals) instead of racing through the story as they did with the prequels.
I'm ok with skipping over Han, Leia and Luke, as long as the next movie explains their fate. Perhaps have them in cameos as the grandparents of the new generation of rebels/Jedi. Casting will obviously be important. You want a cast that will act well and stick together for another 3 movies. Title: Re: Everyone is worried about George Lucas selling out to Disney? Post by: Black Diamond Vol on November 01, 2012, 12:38:01 EDT But will the "new" Han shoot first? :laugh:
Title: No wonder this country is going to hell? People, me included, make more Post by: volsboy on November 01, 2012, 02:43:54 EDT noise about this trivial stuff than they do about government issues. Or so it seems? Hope more people vote Nov 6 than they do for the Bachelor or American Idol. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
Title: Re: Everyone is worried about George Lucas selling out to Disney? Post by: GreggO on November 01, 2012, 05:38:55 EDT Sorry, Nut; bout to throw this phone!
Maybe a bad choice of words, meant I think you are a sharp poster here - love your posts. Meant as respect. Didn't ever get the episodes backwards earlier and gave up. Near 60 here, so I'll ask for a break. G Title: Re: No wonder this country is going to hell? People, me included, make more Post by: Clockwork Orange on November 01, 2012, 01:47:51 EDT noise about this trivial stuff than they do about government issues. Or so it seems? Hope more people vote Nov 6 than they do for the Bachelor or American Idol. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad. Ordinarily I would agree with you re: Bachelor or Idol, but people need an escape and a distraction. That's why entertainment (TV/movies/music/sports) is such a big industry. You spend 24/7/365 thinking about the serious issues in your life and I don't think it's such a bad thing to spend a few minutes watching or discussing mindless fun things. Title: Re: No wonder this country is going to hell? People, me included, make more Post by: Volznut on November 01, 2012, 01:59:02 EDT noise about this trivial stuff than they do about government issues. Or so it seems? Hope more people vote Nov 6 than they do for the Bachelor or American Idol. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad. This country is going to hell because we're discussing a movie? Title: Re: Everyone is worried about George Lucas selling out to Disney? Post by: Black Diamond Vol on November 01, 2012, 04:07:36 EDT While we're on the subject, here's a Netflix recommendation: "The People vs. George Lucas". Hilarious doc detailing Star Wars fanboys' love/hate relationship with GL.
Title: Re: No wonder this country is going to hell? People, me included, make more Post by: VoLynteer on November 01, 2012, 04:40:19 EDT This country is going to hell because we're discussing a movie? No don't be ridiculous...it is because we give people that watch and discuss movies the right to vote. I'd prefer the "Honey boo Hoo" contingent vote on the 7th. :dance:Title: Re: No wonder this country is going to hell? People, me included, make more Post by: Volznut on November 01, 2012, 04:51:46 EDT No don't be ridiculous...it is because we give people that watch and discuss movies the right to vote. I'd prefer the "Honey boo Hoo" contingent vote on the 7th. :dance: what? Are you drunk? :biggrin: Title: Re: No wonder this country is going to hell? People, me included, make more Post by: VoLynteer on November 01, 2012, 04:56:15 EDT what? Are you drunk? :biggrin: Not yet :tongue: |