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Title: OK, So....I threw up in my mouth a little bit but then I began to think about it Post by: Hollerboy on December 07, 2012, 07:26:22 EST and I threw up in my mouth again. :hurl: However, after recovering I began to think that this is salvagable. If we give him the money to hire a big-time staff (money like Kiffin had to spend), who can recruit like mad, maybe we can get this thing rolling. I am on board, but if Cheek/Hart dont get us a big-time coach, they better give him enough money to hire a big-time staff!!! :mad:
Title: Re: OK, So....I threw up in my mouth a little bit but then I began to think about it Post by: WoodstockVol on December 07, 2012, 07:27:28 EST Who knows,Butch could wind up like Doug Dickey
Title: Re: OK, So....I threw up in my mouth a little bit but then I began to think about it Post by: BanditVol on December 07, 2012, 07:28:20 EST . I am on board, but if Cheek/Hart dont get us a big-time coach, they better give him enough money to hire a big-time staff!!! :mad: Agree. And start by keeping Graham and Pittman and at least trying to get Tee. Other than that, if he wants to keep the WR/RC and Chaney, I am also fine with that, but also fine with new blood. Title: Re: OK, So....I threw up in my mouth a little bit but then I began to think about it Post by: Hollerboy on December 07, 2012, 07:29:46 EST Who knows,Butch could wind up like Doug Dickey or the other D.D., Derrick Dooley. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:Title: Re: OK, So....I threw up in my mouth a little bit but then I began to think about it Post by: WoodstockVol on December 07, 2012, 07:30:45 EST or the other D.D., Derrick Dooley. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: He can't be as bad as Derek Dummy! Title: Re: OK, So....I threw up in my mouth a little bit but then I began to think about it Post by: Volznut on December 07, 2012, 07:31:52 EST Getting Tee and retaining Graham, Pittman would be good. However, spend some damn money on a DC!!
Title: Re: OK, So....I threw up in my mouth a little bit but then I began to think about it Post by: WoodstockVol on December 07, 2012, 07:35:04 EST Getting Tee and retaining Graham, Pittman would be good. However, spend some damn money on a DC!! Van Gorder,John Tenuta and Jim Leavitt(49'ers LB Coach) are available. Jim Leavitt might be trouble since He was fired at USF for beating up a player and trying to cover it up Title: Re: OK, So....I threw up in my mouth a little bit but then I began to think about it Post by: Volznut on December 07, 2012, 07:41:03 EST I can get behind Van Gorder as DC
Title: Re: OK, So....I threw up in my mouth a little bit but then I began to think about it Post by: BanditVol on December 07, 2012, 08:01:02 EST I can get behind Van Gorder as DC Me too. He was great at uga and IMO had huge disadvantages at AU this year (general team disarray and lame duck HC...hard to motivate kids, and the offense never let the D rest). Title: Re: OK, So....I threw up in my mouth a little bit but then I began to think about it Post by: FranklinVol on December 07, 2012, 08:10:51 EST In reading the Feldman article over at CBS he states that we have committed to giving jones money for a staff in the "top six of the SEC". Is that good enough? I am not sure it is. Like was said below, for me to get on board this train I am gonna HAVE to see a good staff put together. Would prefer it was orange flavored with Tee and Coach Graham, but it MUST, MUST (MUST!) be heavy on recruiters.
Title: Re: OK, So....I threw up in my mouth a little bit but then I began to think about it Post by: BanditVol on December 07, 2012, 08:30:00 EST In reading the Feldman article over at CBS he states that we have committed to giving jones money for a staff in the "top six of the SEC". Is that good enough? I am not sure it is. Like was said below, for me to get on board this train I am gonna HAVE to see a good staff put together. Would prefer it was orange flavored with Tee and Coach Graham, but it MUST, MUST (MUST!) be heavy on recruiters. Yeah, I'd like to see "top 3" at least. $3M per year is only tied for fourth in the SEC, and I don't think anyone thinks Jones deserves more than that. He might be a bit overpaid as it is, but I think we wanted to make a statement. So why not allow more for staff, maybe even try to have the highest paid staff. It only makes sense.... Title: Re: OK, So....I threw up in my mouth a little bit but then I began to think about it Post by: Clockwork Orange on December 07, 2012, 08:44:00 EST So why not allow more for staff, maybe even try to have the highest paid staff. It only makes sense.... We'd need to get into the neighborhood of $4.5M in assistants' salaries to have the highest paid group of assistants, or something like $5.5M to have the highest paid staff overall. I think we can assemble an outstanding staff for much less than that . . . more in the $3.5 range, which is probably exactly where we need to be to be in the top 6 in the SEC. I don't think top 6 is as bad as it may sound. I suppose it's possible that we shell out more than that but I'm not sure you guarantee yourself that much extra success by doing so. Title: Re: OK, So....I threw up in my mouth a little bit but then I began to think about it Post by: BanditVol on December 07, 2012, 08:47:54 EST We'd need to get into the neighborhood of $4.5M in assistants' salaries to have the highest paid group of assistants, or something like $5.5M to have the highest paid staff overall. I think we can assemble an outstanding staff for much less than that . . . more in the $3.5 range, which is probably exactly where we need to be to be in the top 6 in the SEC. I don't think top 6 is as bad as it may sound. I suppose it's possible that we shell out more than that but I'm not sure you guarantee yourself that much extra success by doing so. Interesting. Never knew the staffs already made that much. Top 6 should work. Money is really not the issue, unless it keeps you from hiring a really good coach. If we have the 6th highest staff and it's loaded with great coaches, then WGAS. Good points. Title: Re: OK, So....I threw up in my mouth a little bit but then I began to think about it Post by: PirateVOL on December 07, 2012, 09:31:21 EST We'd need to get into the neighborhood of $4.5M in assistants' salaries to have the highest paid group of assistants, or something like $5.5M to have the highest paid staff overall. I think we can assemble an outstanding staff for much less than that . . . more in the $3.5 range, which is probably exactly where we need to be to be in the top 6 in the SEC. I don't think top 6 is as bad as it may sound. Well, he has a $3M budget according to the MOUI suppose it's possible that we shell out more than that but I'm not sure you guarantee yourself that much extra success by doing so. Title: Re: OK, So....I threw up in my mouth a little bit but then I began to think about it Post by: Clockwork Orange on December 07, 2012, 09:33:56 EST Well, he has a $3M budget according to the MOU Minimum $3M. That virtually guarantees that he's not bringing most of his Cincy staff and will go out to find more experienced assistants, I bet. I'm sure Hart retains approval rights on those hires. Title: Re: OK, So....I threw up in my mouth a little bit but then I began to think about it Post by: PirateVOL on December 07, 2012, 09:35:06 EST I'm sure Hart retains approval rights on those hires. Which is why our DC this year was named Sunseri instead of SteeleTitle: Re: OK, So....I threw up in my mouth a little bit but then I began to think about it Post by: Clockwork Orange on December 07, 2012, 09:35:49 EST Which is why our DC this year was named Sunseri instead of Steele It still shocks me how much we paid Sunseri to come and take a shizzle all over our football program. Title: Re: OK, So....I threw up in my mouth a little bit but then I began to think about it Post by: Jethro on December 07, 2012, 09:37:40 EST It still shocks me how much we paid Sunseri to come and take a shizzle all over our football program. That's what we get for hiring a Bamar! :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird: Title: Re: OK, So....I threw up in my mouth a little bit but then I began to think about it Post by: WoodstockVol on December 07, 2012, 09:42:39 EST That's what we get for hiring a Bamar! :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird: What's funny was Saban said He was a great Coach and recommended Him :hurl: Title: Re: OK, So....I threw up in my mouth a little bit but then I began to think about it Post by: Volznut on December 07, 2012, 09:48:16 EST What's funny was Saban said He was a great Coach and recommended Him :hurl: he was a very good LB coach. Just not beyond that Title: Re: OK, So....I threw up in my mouth a little bit but then I began to think about it Post by: LouisVOL on December 07, 2012, 11:14:44 EST I think he brings his DC with him.
Getting Tee and retaining Graham, Pittman would be good. However, spend some damn money on a DC!! Title: Re: OK, So....I threw up in my mouth a little bit but then I began to think about it Post by: FranklinVol on December 07, 2012, 11:49:11 EST I think he brings his DC with him. Being on the scene in a big east town, can u give us any insight into the DC? Particularly interested in his ability as a recruiter?Title: Re: OK, So....I threw up in my mouth a little bit but then I began to think about it Post by: BanditVol on December 07, 2012, 11:51:31 EST What's funny was Saban said He was a great Coach and recommended Him :hurl: Of course he did! What better way for that asswipe to screw us? :naughty: Title: Re: OK, So....I threw up in my mouth a little bit but then I began to think about it Post by: LouisVOL on December 08, 2012, 12:21:55 EST Very aggressive, lost of tackles for loss, lots of turnovers, not a lot of points. Did not give up huge plays. They looked great against high power West Virginia, and looked great until last few minutes against Louisville, but then got a case of Chief mustang and let Louisville back in the game and eventually win in OT. BUT, Big East is not SEC as we all know. As far as recruiting, don't know, but as a staff, they apparently have recruited well given it is Big East school in OSU backyard.
Being on the scene in a big east town, can u give us any insight into the DC? Particularly interested in his ability as a recruiter? |