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Title: UT basketball fans . . . I hope you are prepared
Post by: Clockwork Orange on December 11, 2012, 08:22:12 EST
for the Vols to lose to Wichita State on Thursday night. Wichita is a better team than we are. As good as our defense has been, theirs has been slightly better . . . and their offense is significantly better. They are a very well coached team (Gregg Marshall . . . formerly at Winthrop and a guy UT considered at one point). Marshall has a matchup zone that he uses occasionally that I bet we see a lot of.

If Cuonzo is to right the ship, beating the Shockers would be a great place to start . . . but I don't see it. I think we fall to 4-4.


Title: Re: UT basketball fans . . . I hope you are prepared
Post by: WoodstockVol on December 11, 2012, 08:37:24 EST
Tennessee is going to the NIT and will have a Men's Basketball Coach on the hotseat


Title: Re: UT basketball fans . . . I hope you are prepared
Post by: Volznut on December 11, 2012, 08:46:25 EST
we're going to win CO



Title: Re: UT basketball fans . . . I hope you are prepared
Post by: Creek Walker on December 11, 2012, 08:52:15 EST
we're going to win CO



A bold statement for a team that is struggling to score 40 ppg.  :laugh:


Title: I don't understand why we can't get a bonafide 3pt shooter that
Post by: VOLMAN on December 11, 2012, 09:00:25 EST
can force defenses to get out of the zone against us? We will see mostly zone until we demonstrate that we can break it down or hit 3s consistently. :patriot:


Title: Re: UT basketball fans . . . I hope you are prepared
Post by: WoodstockVol on December 11, 2012, 09:01:19 EST
A bold statement for a team that is struggling to score 40 ppg.  :laugh:

This team would be good in the 1970s


Title: Re: UT basketball fans . . . I hope you are prepared
Post by: Volznut on December 11, 2012, 09:11:31 EST
A bold statement for a team that is struggling to score 40 ppg.  :laugh:

we will still win!



Title: Re: UT basketball fans . . . I hope you are prepared
Post by: Inspector Vol on December 11, 2012, 09:11:47 EST
Same problems we had last year (guard play) multiplied with no Maymon. He was the match up problem for most teams. He handles good enough to get by guys his size and smaller guys who can stay with him he dominates with his back to the basket.

Give this team a true legit pg who can create his own shot or someone else and another shooter and we would be good.....but we don't have that.

Will we have it next year? What will we have next year? I assume all our bigs will be gone so......???


Title: Re: UT basketball fans . . . I hope you are prepared
Post by: Volznut on December 11, 2012, 09:12:36 EST
Same problems we had last year (guard play) multiplied with no Maymon. He was the match up problem for most teams. He handles good enough to get by guys his size and smaller guys who can stay with him he dominates with his back to the basket.

Give this team a true legit pg who can create his own shot or someone else and another shooter and we would be good.....but we don't have that.

Will we have it next year? What will we have next year? I assume all our bigs will be gone so......???

I think Maymon gets a medical RS and is back next year



Title: Re: UT basketball fans . . . I hope you are prepared
Post by: WoodstockVol on December 11, 2012, 09:13:37 EST
Same problems we had last year (guard play) multiplied with no Maymon. He was the match up problem for most teams. He handles good enough to get by guys his size and smaller guys who can stay with him he dominates with his back to the basket.

Give this team a true legit pg who can create his own shot or someone else and another shooter and we would be good.....but we don't have that.

Will we have it next year? What will we have next year? I assume all our bigs will be gone so......???

Cuonzo seems to me,a Buzz Peterson part 2 :hurl:


Title: Re: UT basketball fans . . . I hope you are prepared
Post by: Clockwork Orange on December 11, 2012, 09:16:49 EST
we're going to win CO

Hey man, I hope so. But Wichita is as good or better than any of the three teams we have lost to so far, according to KenPom's stats.

Code:
															SOS						NC SOS
Rank Team Conf W-L Pyth AdjO AdjD AdjT Luck Pyth OppO OppD Pyth
23 Wichita St. MVC 9-0 .8676 108.0 46 89.9 29 67.0 177 +.042 118 .4982 204 99.5 191 99.6 213 .4982 206
24 Oklahoma St. B12 7-1 .8667 106.0 69 88.3 18 66.3 207 +.009 167 .5543 135 101.5 90 99.4 191 .5543 141
25 Illinois B10 10-0 .8606 111.5 17 93.4 63 67.3 161 +.075 72 .5297 166 99.8 178 98.6 147 .5297 175
26 Kansas St. B12 7-1 .8601 107.0 57 89.7 28 67.4 156 +.084 61 .4661 229 98.8 219 100.1 240 .4661 235
27 North Carolina St. ACC 6-2 .8569 113.8 10 95.5 95 68.9 85 +.069 78 .6563 41 103.0 38 96.7 59 .6563 47
28 Belmont OVC 6-2 .8567 111.8 16 93.9 69 68.6 92 -.046 252 .6517 47 103.2 34 97.1 75 .6517 53
29 San Diego St. MWC 7-1 .8540 106.3 65 89.5 26 68.4 108 +.062 92 .5088 193 97.4 278 97.0 73 .5088 197
30 Baylor B12 5-3 .8539 110.7 22 93.1 57 68.3 113 -.148 333 .5883 101 101.9 72 98.4 140 .5883 106
31 Georgetown BE 8-1 .8528 101.5 132 85.5 4 64.0 291 +.086 56 .4534 240 98.2 255 100.0 234 .4534 243
32 Missouri SEC 8-1 .8493 110.7 21 93.6 65 67.0 175 +.098 44 .3998 284 95.9 308 99.8 226 .3998 287
33 Memphis CUSA 6-2 .8487 108.4 39 91.6 35 69.1 71 -.008 192 .4990 202 100.2 150 100.3 247 .4990 204
34 Virginia ACC 8-2 .8484 103.0 105 87.1 10 60.3 344 -.043 249 .4296 258 96.6 296 99.3 186 .4296 260
. . .
57 Tennessee SEC 4-3 .7832 102.6 116 90.5 33 64.0 289 -.037 234 .6299 60 101.4 96 96.2 43 .6299 67



Title: Re: UT basketball fans . . . I hope you are prepared
Post by: Stogie Vol on December 11, 2012, 09:22:44 EST
(http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww118/clausenfreetennessee/Martin.jpg)

You geeks and your numbers.


Title: Re: UT basketball fans . . . I hope you are prepared
Post by: Clockwork Orange on December 11, 2012, 09:41:32 EST
You geeks and your numbers.

I like the snarl and I'm pulling like hell for Cuonzo. But this offensive funk is some of the worst basketball I've ever seen.

Just for giggles, some more geeky numbers . . .

In Tennessee's three losses, it has scored 0.73, 0.68, and 0.68 points per possession (PPP) . . .

* Grambling State has the worst offense in the NCAA and scores an average (adjusted for SOS) of 0.77 PPP.

* Only once last year was UT's offense this bad, scoring 0.70 PPP in a loss to Vandy.

* In the five years of the Bruce Pearl era, UT only had PPP this low three times . . . 0.64 vs. Butler in 2006-2007, 0.68 vs. Kentucky in 2009-2010, and 0.71 vs. Michigan in his final game in 2010-2011. That's three times in 206 games, while this team has done it three times in seven games.

* Hilariously, in four years of Buzz Peterson UT never-- not once-- had PPP less than 0.73.


Title: Re: UT basketball fans . . . I hope you are prepared
Post by: WoodstockVol on December 11, 2012, 09:42:34 EST
I like the snarl and I'm pulling like hell for Cuonzo. But this offensive funk is some of the worst basketball I've ever seen.

Just for giggles, some more geeky numbers . . .

In Tennessee's three losses, it has scored 0.73, 0.68, and 0.68 points per possession (PPP) . . .

* Grambling State has the worst offense in the NCAA and scores an average (adjusted for SOS) of 0.77 PPP.

* Only once last year was UT's offense this bad, scoring 0.70 PPP in a loss to Vandy.

* In the five years of the Bruce Pearl era, UT only had PPP this low three times . . . 0.64 vs. Butler in 2006-2007, 0.68 vs. Kentucky in 2009-2010, and 0.71 vs. Michigan in his final game in 2010-2011. That's three times in 206 games, while this team has done it three times in seven games.

* Hilariously, in four years of Buzz Peterson UT never-- not once-- had PPP less than 0.73.

What about Coach Green?


Title: Re: UT basketball fans . . . I hope you are prepared
Post by: Clockwork Orange on December 11, 2012, 09:50:37 EST
What about Coach Green?

I don't have stats going back far enough, but as I recall scoring points was never a weakness so I doubt he had many games with offensive output this bad. I only have his final season and the team never scored below 0.8 PPP that season.

The Kevin O'Neill era would be interesting and I'm not sure how bad the offense really was now that people keep up with tempo-free stats. He just played an extremely slow tempo . . . far slower than our very slow system under Cuonzo. Last season his 6-26 USC team scored below 0.73 PPP nine times though, so maybe his offenses truly are terrible.


Title: Re: UT basketball fans . . . I hope you are prepared
Post by: 101stDad on December 11, 2012, 09:56:20 EST
I think Maymon gets a medical RS and is back next year



Maymon used his redshirt when he transferred in from Marquette and had to sit. 



Title: Re: UT basketball fans . . . I hope you are prepared
Post by: Clockwork Orange on December 11, 2012, 10:00:02 EST
Maymon used his redshirt when he transferred in from Marquette and had to sit. 

Nope. This is just Maymon's 4th year, and like all athletes he has 5 to play 4. He played partial seasons before and after his transfer time, so a redshirt was never used.


Title: Re: UT basketball fans . . . I hope you are prepared
Post by: Volznut on December 11, 2012, 10:02:12 EST
Maymon used his redshirt when he transferred in from Marquette and had to sit.  



Not a RS