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Title: Peyton bears a lot of responsibility for that loss..
Post by: VOLveeta on January 13, 2013, 02:49:51 EST
Two picks and a fumble...  Ugh the last pick was AWFUL
  Damn.


Title: Re: Peyton bears a lot of responsibility for that loss..
Post by: VinnieVOL on January 13, 2013, 02:51:20 EST
He really does.  Horrible mistakes.


Title: Re: Peyton bears a lot of responsibility for that loss..
Post by: Clockwork Orange on January 13, 2013, 02:53:13 EST
And yet he had the game won in regulation but Denver has an idiot for a safety, it seems. The Broncos secondary had a horrible game.

But I do hate to see Peyton throw an INT that leads to the game winner.


Title: Re: Peyton bears a lot of responsibility for that loss..
Post by: VoLynteer on January 13, 2013, 03:01:21 EST
And yet he had the game won in regulation but Denver has an idiot for a safety, it seems. The Broncos secondary had a horrible game.

But I do hate to see Peyton throw an INT that leads to the game winner.

This


Title: Re: Peyton bears a lot of responsibility for that loss..
Post by: Creek Walker on January 13, 2013, 04:17:15 EST
The first pick wasn't Manning's fault.

There is plenty of blame to go around, but I put a lot of it on John Fox's shoulders. Terribly conservative playcalling in crucial situations on either side of the ball and it cost them.


Title: Re: Peyton bears a lot of responsibility for that loss..
Post by: WoodstockVol on January 13, 2013, 04:21:26 EST
The first pick wasn't Manning's fault.

There is plenty of blame to go around, but I put a lot of it on John Fox's shoulders. Terribly conservative playcalling in crucial situations on either side of the ball and it cost them.

This is the way it was in Carolina. His teams screwed the pooch quite often come playoff time(remember The Panthers who were 13-3 losing to a Cardinal team that was 9-7?)


Title: Re: Peyton bears a lot of responsibility for that loss..
Post by: Volznut on January 13, 2013, 06:10:46 EST
Not really. The coaches bear a lot more

1 - Go conservative and give it back to the Ravens with over a minute to go
2 - Let them complete essentially a hail mary to tie it, and they were torched all game. WTH was that secondary doing?
3 - with 30 secs, take a knee and go to OT

Peyton made a bad throw in OT, but the coaches got them to OT



Title: Re: Peyton bears a lot of responsibility for that loss..
Post by: BanditVol on January 14, 2013, 05:39:44 EST
Not really. The coaches bear a lot more

1 - Go conservative and give it back to the Ravens with over a minute to go
2 - Let them complete essentially a hail mary to tie it, and they were torched all game. WTH was that secondary doing?
3 - with 30 secs, take a knee and go to OT

Peyton made a bad throw in OT, but the coaches got them to OT



The third one is the worst one.  You have PEYTON FREAKING MANNING (last int aside).  By deferring to the OT, you might not see the ball again!  In fact, this almost happened.  Baltimore was moving the ball on the first drive and just barely missed getting a first down at mid-field.  Their offense had momentum and could easily have scored a TD IMO.

I go back to what Bill Bellichick did in the regular season a few years ago....ahead by 4+ points, he went for it on 4th and 2 at his own 28, because he DIDN'T WANT PEYTON TO GET THE BALL BACK. 

http://www.advancednflstats.com/2009/11/belichicks-4th-down-decision-vs-colts.html

Granted that was when Peyton was at his peak with the Colts, and it was a regular season game that probably only affected home field advantage in the playoffs, but still....Fox can't even give Peyton a chance to lead them to a FG with 32 seconds left?  That's a head scratcher for sure.

And a painful reminder of Dooley's similar decision vs. Missouri.   :frown: :hurl: