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Title: Thoughts on the SEC and our chances
Post by: Volznut on September 20, 2015, 05:42:52 EDT
First - Overall I think the SEC is down this year. I don't think any team in the east is going to win the SEC.

- The east is winnable for UT. To do so we HAVE to beat FL. If we do it will be the winner of the UT-UGA game
- I have watched all three of FL games. Their defense is legit. Their offense is average to poor. Will Grier has decent mobility but limited as a passer. Harris is a good runner and very limited passing. They don't have lots of options on offense. Their OL is not very good, UK was getting pressure all night.
- If UT wants to beat FL they will have to have a deep threat, be willing to go outside, and be willing to have Dobbs run the ball on the read zone. FL will clog up the inside, so running there will be futile. Dobbs needs to be careful and on time with passes - Gators have a very good secondary.
- Mizzou sucks. We need to beat that garbage team this year.
- SCe really sucks, both on offense and defense, long year for the ball coach
- I will admit that I wasn't sure LSU could get it done - but early it looks like LSU/OM for the west. Things can change though.
- Fournette is a beast. Heisman frontrunner for sure. Glad we do not play either LSU or OM this year. Wish we played AU instead of Bama.
- Bama isn't what they have been. They are beatable, mainly because they have inconsistency at QB, and turn the ball over.
- UT could have one of the best special teams in the country. Punter is great, returns are great, and if Medley gets it together, like it looks like he is, this could be a big edge for them this year and likely wins us a game. Just a few years ago this part of our game was abysmal.
- Don't be fooled by Grayson Lambert's big day vs USCe. That is a bad defense. He isn't that good - needs pressure which they never applied. UGA does have a really tough 1-2 RB punch though.
- Gus Mazahn has a problem. His Defense will all of those highly rated guys, isn't very good. Muschamp isn't the savior I guess? His offense is also very pedestrian. I think Auburn could be in danger of having a losing season.
- Arkansas misses J Williams, but their defense has also not been good.

Bottom line: Games we need to, and should win: Mizzou, UK, Vandy, Florida, SCe, Arkansas, North Texas

Games we will have a lot of trouble winning: Bama, UGA.

If it goes with that script we finish 9-3.


Title: Re: Thoughts on the SEC and our chances
Post by: VOLveeta on September 20, 2015, 06:18:51 EDT
Good post, buddy.


Title: Re: Thoughts on the SEC and our chances
Post by: BanditVol on September 20, 2015, 09:44:18 EDT
First - Overall I think the SEC is down this year. I don't think any team in the east is going to win the SEC.

- The east is winnable for UT. To do so we HAVE to beat FL. If we do it will be the winner of the UT-UGA game
- I have watched all three of FL games. Their defense is legit. Their offense is average to poor. Will Grier has decent mobility but limited as a passer. Harris is a good runner and very limited passing. They don't have lots of options on offense. Their OL is not very good, UK was getting pressure all night.
- If UT wants to beat FL they will have to have a deep threat, be willing to go outside, and be willing to have Dobbs run the ball on the read zone. FL will clog up the inside, so running there will be futile. Dobbs needs to be careful and on time with passes - Gators have a very good secondary.
- Mizzou sucks. We need to beat that garbage team this year.
- SCe really sucks, both on offense and defense, long year for the ball coach
- I will admit that I wasn't sure LSU could get it done - but early it looks like LSU/OM for the west. Things can change though.
- Fournette is a beast. Heisman frontrunner for sure. Glad we do not play either LSU or OM this year. Wish we played AU instead of Bama.
- Bama isn't what they have been. They are beatable, mainly because they have inconsistency at QB, and turn the ball over.
- UT could have one of the best special teams in the country. Punter is great, returns are great, and if Medley gets it together, like it looks like he is, this could be a big edge for them this year and likely wins us a game. Just a few years ago this part of our game was abysmal.
- Don't be fooled by Grayson Lambert's big day vs USCe. That is a bad defense. He isn't that good - needs pressure which they never applied. UGA does have a really tough 1-2 RB punch though.
- Gus Mazahn has a problem. His Defense will all of those highly rated guys, isn't very good. Muschamp isn't the savior I guess? His offense is also very pedestrian. I think Auburn could be in danger of having a losing season.
- Arkansas misses J Williams, but their defense has also not been good.

Bottom line: Games we need to, and should win: Mizzou, UK, Vandy, Florida, SCe, Arkansas, North Texas

Games we will have a lot of trouble winning: Bama, UGA.

If it goes with that script we finish 9-3.

The thing that gives me hope is that we played uga close two years running.  We can beat them, for sure.

Heck, if bammer loses again before they play us, we might even have a shot at them.  Satan tends to dial it in when he's not in the show.

I am going to go all in, predict 7-1 in the SEC and that we pay LSU back in the SECC for 2001.   :naughty:

But oh wait, we play the gators first.  hm, let's win that one.... :clap:


Title: Re: Thoughts on the SEC and our chances
Post by: Jedi Master on September 21, 2015, 02:55:26 EDT
- The east is winnable for UT. To do so we HAVE to beat FL. If we do it will be the winner of the UT-UGA game

Hate to break it to you, but the Vols aren't beating UGA this year. Or Bama.   

 


Title: Re: Thoughts on the SEC and our chances
Post by: RockyMtnVol on September 21, 2015, 03:01:27 EDT
Hate to break it to you, but the Vols aren't beating UGA this year. Or Bama.   

 

GA is looking pretty solid, and Bama won't be turning it over 5 times in a game anytime soon.  I think we can give you both a game, and if freshmen emerge and we get a few breaks, it's not impossible.  But with a weak OL and a good, but not great, QB, you're probably right.


Title: Re: Thoughts on the SEC and our chances
Post by: Creek Walker on September 21, 2015, 03:44:03 EDT
Hate to break it to you, but the Vols aren't beating UGA this year. Or Bama.   

 

The odds say Georgia wins, but if Mark Richt were my coach, I'd never feel confident speaking in absolutes like that.


Title: Re: Thoughts on the SEC and our chances
Post by: BanditVol on September 21, 2015, 04:05:22 EDT
Hate to break it to you, but the Vols aren't beating UGA this year. Or Bama.   

 

we were a hairlash from beating you the last two years in a row. Hell...DOOLEY almost beat you guys in 2012, so let's make that THREE years in a row, and that with worse teams than we have now.

I would be worried if I were an uga fan.  But don't let it trouble you....go ahead and have your delusions.   :naughty:


Title: Re: Thoughts on the SEC and our chances
Post by: Volznut on September 21, 2015, 08:52:06 EDT
Hate to break it to you, but the Vols aren't beating UGA this year. Or Bama.   

 

Lambert had a good game at home against a really bad defense. How good will he be on the road against a much better one? UT-UGA will be a pretty good game.





Title: Re: Thoughts on the SEC and our chances
Post by: HerbTarlekVol on September 22, 2015, 02:19:54 EDT
Obviously I hope we win the East and get to the SECCG, but I just don't see it happening.  I am officially in "show me" mode at this point. 


Title: Re: Re: Thoughts on the SEC and our chances
Post by: SmokeyJoe on September 22, 2015, 02:52:30 EDT
Hate to break it to you, but the Vols aren't beating UGA this year. Or Bama.
Georgia has looked good against pretty weak opposition. Same for UT. UT played well against Oklahoma, and let it get away. I don't think UT will beat Alabama in Tuscaloosa (but they could), recent history with UT & Georgia has me scratching my head at your abundance of optimism. We shall see. I think Tennessee will have a great shot to beat Georgia in Knoxville. Always seem to play Georgia tough even with inferior talent. Must be all those jawga boys on the roster :naughty:

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Title: Re: Thoughts on the SEC and our chances
Post by: volsboy on September 22, 2015, 04:17:46 EDT
I'll just be happy with a win over the Gators first. I think this is an important game in Butch's career. If he loses to UF, the fans will be in a tizzy. And rightly so.


Title: Re: Thoughts on the SEC and our chances
Post by: volsboy on September 22, 2015, 04:54:12 EDT
I hate Bama, but I wouldn't write their obituary just yet. They comitted 5 turnovers and still fought back to get within 6. They had the ball with a chance to win but threw an int. I think their defense was way over-rated coming into the season though. They have given up 40+ points a few times recently.


Title: Re: Thoughts on the SEC and our chances
Post by: volsboy on September 22, 2015, 05:20:12 EDT
Another thing, UGa just had 22 yards total offense more than Vandy. That doesn't seem like a sound defense for UGa.


Title: Re: Thoughts on the SEC and our chances
Post by: BanditVol on September 22, 2015, 07:10:17 EDT
I hate Bama, but I wouldn't write their obituary just yet. They comitted 5 turnovers and still fought back to get within 6. They had the ball with a chance to win but threw an int. I think their defense was way over-rated coming into the season though. They have given up 40+ points a few times recently.

Yes it is overated.  I made this point on Finebaum on Friday.  I reckon I was right.   :dance: