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Title: UNC totally hosed by refs
Post by: BanditVol on December 06, 2015, 03:54:22 EST
Seems like that happened to us against georgia last year

I can't see Kliempson winning it all, or even the first round


Title: Re: UNC totally hosed by refs
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on December 06, 2015, 03:57:23 EST
No, but if they run up against a certain red team, I know who I'll be rooting for.


Title: Re: UNC totally hosed by refs
Post by: Coupe De VOL on December 06, 2015, 04:09:02 EST
No, but if they run up against a certain red team, I know who I'll be rooting for.
LOL!
 :dielaughing:


Title: Re: UNC totally hosed by refs
Post by: Creek Walker on December 06, 2015, 04:40:25 EST
Not at all impressed with Clemson, but I think the call was correct. If you watch the replay, a UNC player looped all the way back behind the 30 as he moved from the right to the left. Without taking the time to look it up, I'm almost positive that's a penalty.


Title: Re: UNC totally hosed by refs
Post by: BanditVol on December 07, 2015, 03:37:27 EST
Not at all impressed with Clemson, but I think the call was correct. If you watch the replay, a UNC player looped all the way back behind the 30 as he moved from the right to the left. Without taking the time to look it up, I'm almost positive that's a penalty.

You're kidding right?  running backwards is offsides?    :crazy:

I didn't see the play live and only caught a quick replay or two, but it was universal among all the bammers at church that uNC got screwed.   :confused:


Title: Re: UNC totally hosed by refs
Post by: PirateVOL on December 07, 2015, 03:41:43 EST
You're kidding right?  running backwards is offsides?    :crazy:

I didn't see the play live and only caught a quick replay or two, but it was universal among all the bammers at church that uNC got screwed.   :confused:
No

Additionally, kicking-team players are allowed only a five-yard running start before the ball is put into play. Previously, players were allowed to take as long of a running start as they wanted.


Title: Re: UNC totally hosed by refs
Post by: Creek Walker on December 07, 2015, 03:44:21 EST


I didn't see the play live and only caught a quick replay or two, but it was universal among all the bammers at church that uNC got screwed.   :confused:

You of all people should know better than to rely on Alabama fans for quality football knowledge.

See Pirate's post above.


Title: Re: UNC totally hosed by refs
Post by: BanditVol on December 07, 2015, 03:46:06 EST
You of all people should know better than to rely on Alabama fans for quality football knowledge.

See Pirate's post above.

excellent point  :biggrin:

They also were very concerned that they not play OU first.  They got that wish.  Buncha patsies.   :laugh:


Title: Re: UNC totally hosed by refs
Post by: BanditVol on December 07, 2015, 03:52:28 EST
No

Additionally, kicking-team players are allowed only a five-yard running start before the ball is put into play. Previously, players were allowed to take as long of a running start as they wanted.

Where is that quote from?  And if that rule is violated (if it's even a rule  :naughty:), that's "offsides"????

Whatever the case, it never entered the ACC's own official version of the story.  They are claiming a UNC player "broke the plane", which is patent nonsense.  So yeah, UNC got screwed.


Here’s the statement the ACC trotted from some poor spokesperson.
“Offsides is not a reviewable play. Dennis Hennigan [ACC director of officiating] said that mechanically the officials were in the correct position. The rule as it relates to to an onside kick that the 35-yard line is treated as a plane and if any part of a player breaks that plane before the ball is kicked it’s offsides. The officials saw a member of the kicking team break the plane before the ball was kicked.”


Read more at http://fanbuzz.rare.us/story/acc-gives-weak-excuse-for-botched-offside-call-in-acc-championship-game/#4bVmToOweIG5MKL3.99


Title: Re: UNC totally hosed by refs
Post by: PirateVOL on December 07, 2015, 04:20:30 EST
Where is that quote from?  And if that rule is violated (if it's even a rule  :naughty:), that's "offsides"????

Whatever the case, it never entered the ACC's own official version of the story.  They are claiming a UNC player "broke the plane", which is patent nonsense.  So yeah, UNC got screwed.


Here’s the statement the ACC trotted from some poor spokesperson.
“Offsides is not a reviewable play. Dennis Hennigan [ACC director of officiating] said that mechanically the officials were in the correct position. The rule as it relates to to an onside kick that the 35-yard line is treated as a plane and if any part of a player breaks that plane before the ball is kicked it’s offsides. The officials saw a member of the kicking team break the plane before the ball was kicked.”


Read more at http://fanbuzz.rare.us/story/acc-gives-weak-excuse-for-botched-offside-call-in-acc-championship-game/#4bVmToOweIG5MKL3.99

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/new-kickoff-rules-producing-more-touchbacks-fbs (http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/new-kickoff-rules-producing-more-touchbacks-fbs)
Rule 6, Section 1, Article 2, paragraph b
PENALTY [a-c5]—Live-ball foul. Five yards from the previous spot, or five yards from the spot where the subsequent dead ball belongs to Team B, or from the spot where the ball is placed after a touchback [S18 or S19] (A.R. 6-1-2-VI).


Title: Re: UNC totally hosed by refs
Post by: BanditVol on December 07, 2015, 06:10:03 EST
http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/new-kickoff-rules-producing-more-touchbacks-fbs (http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/new-kickoff-rules-producing-more-touchbacks-fbs)
Rule 6, Section 1, Article 2, paragraph b
PENALTY [a-c5]—Live-ball foul. Five yards from the previous spot, or five yards from the spot where the subsequent dead ball belongs to Team B, or from the spot where the ball is placed after a touchback [S18 or S19] (A.R. 6-1-2-VI).

Okay, it's a foul, but that's not what was called or defended by the ACC front office as the call.