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Title: ESPN rates programs on ease of recruiting
Post by: BanditVol on December 11, 2015, 10:09:18 EST
Interestingly, Georgia is no. 1 based on location, resources and "lack of in state competition".  I'm not so sure Ga Tech doesn't take a few away and Auburn is a strong presence as well. I think Florida should be higher, in state competition or not.

Vols are no. 16.

Interestingly, Georgia, LSU, bammer, Florida Tamu, and Auburn are all higher than us, which points out what a terrific job Butch has been doing.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/14312923/college-football-easiest-toughest-recruiting-jobs-1-65



Title: Re: ESPN rates programs on ease of recruiting
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on December 12, 2015, 02:13:23 EST
I would rate LSU above UGA.  LA may not produce quite as many players as GA, but they still produce a ton.  I think I read something a while back that said per capita, LA produces more NFL players than any other state.  They can also easily reach into Texas for recruits.  And while UGA only has GT for in-state competition, LSU's biggest competitor is...who?  Tulane?


Title: Re: ESPN rates programs on ease of recruiting
Post by: Creek Walker on December 12, 2015, 03:53:23 EST
Frankly, I'd rate Tennessee a little lower than 16th in these modern times. There was a time (in the '90s) when we would've ranked higher than that, and recruiting will always be in a state of ebb and flow based on the strength of the other programs from across the region, but right now is a tough time to recruit to Knoxville, especially with Clemson and UNC at their strongest-ever points to help lock down the Carolinas. Obviously it could be argued that the growing talent pool in Middle Tennessee offsets that, and that's certainly a benefit for UT.


Title: Re: ESPN rates programs on ease of recruiting
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on December 12, 2015, 06:06:36 EST
Frankly, I'd rate Tennessee a little lower than 16th in these modern times. There was a time (in the '90s) when we would've ranked higher than that, and recruiting will always be in a state of ebb and flow based on the strength of the other programs from across the region, but right now is a tough time to recruit to Knoxville, especially with Clemson and UNC at their strongest-ever points to help lock down the Carolinas. Obviously it could be argued that the growing talent pool in Middle Tennessee offsets that, and that's certainly a benefit for UT.

While agree that we should probably be a bit lower, I don't think the Carolinas are hurting us too bad right now.  Not only does the mid-state boom offset that, but we're also doing better in GA than at any time since Fulmer's glory days. 

The real puzzler on that list is right below us.  If Miami would get out of their 70's era mid-major mindset, they would be in the top 2-3.  There's no excuse for them to not have an on-campus stadium, not to mention their other outdated facilities.  Pretty much everyone in a power five conference is flush with cash right now.  With the TV boom likely ending in the coming years, it's not going to be that way forever.  Miami had better start spending money while there's still money to spend, or else they might find that their biggest in-state rivals aren't UF and FSU, but FAU and USF.


Title: Re: ESPN rates programs on ease of recruiting
Post by: BanditVol on December 12, 2015, 06:17:31 EST
While agree that we should probably be a bit lower, I don't think the Carolinas are hurting us too bad right now.  Not only does the mid-state boom offset that, but we're also doing better in GA than at any time since Fulmer's glory days. 

The real puzzler on that list is right below us.  If Miami would get out of their 70's era mid-major mindset, they would be in the top 2-3.  There's no excuse for them to not have an on-campus stadium, not to mention their other outdated facilities.  Pretty much everyone in a power five conference is flush with cash right now.  With the TV boom likely ending in the coming years, it's not going to be that way forever.  Miami had better start spending money while there's still money to spend, or else they might find that their biggest in-state rivals aren't UF and FSU, but FAU and USF.

I think since Miami is a small private school and doesn't have a large budget, they have a disadvantage in that area.  It may have finally caught up with them.

Agree that if they don't get off their arses the glory days are over.  Back when Schnellenberger and Johnson built the program, it was enough to win games.  Players nowadays want the good facilities.


Title: Re: ESPN rates programs on ease of recruiting
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on December 12, 2015, 06:31:20 EST
I think since Miami is a small private school and doesn't have a large budget, they have a disadvantage in that area.  It may have finally caught up with them.

Agree that if they don't get off their arses the glory days are over.  Back when Schnellenberger and Johnson built the program, it was enough to win games.  Players nowadays want the good facilities.

I would think that their stadium situation is really killing them.  The Orange Bowl was fairly close to their campus, and pretty easy for students to get to (even though it was in the middle of the hood).  But (whatever coprorate sponsor) Dolphins Stadium is so far away, I don't even think it's in the same county.  Visiting recruits can't be impressed when they see 60,000 empty seats every Saturday.


Title: Re: ESPN rates programs on ease of recruiting
Post by: Tnphil on December 12, 2015, 07:22:36 EST
I would think that their stadium situation is really killing them.  The Orange Bowl was fairly close to their campus, and pretty easy for students to get to (even though it was in the middle of the hood).  But (whatever coprorate sponsor) Dolphins Stadium is so far away, I don't even think it's in the same county.  Visiting recruits can't be impressed when they see 60,000 empty seats every Saturday.

Yep...it's about a 40 minute drive from campus. My in laws lived in Ft. Lauderdale and it's closer to them than the U.


Title: Re: ESPN rates programs on ease of recruiting
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on December 13, 2015, 02:38:41 EST
BTW, the fact that five programs rank ahead of the one that's riding a streak of nine #1 classes in a row is...interesting.  You'd think one of those teams would've broken through at some point.  Must be Saban's sparkling personality. :rolleyes:

(https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/screen-shot-2013-07-29-at-9-15-06-am.png)


Title: Re: ESPN rates programs on ease of recruiting
Post by: BanditVol on December 13, 2015, 07:39:48 EST
BTW, the fact that five programs rank ahead of the one that's riding a streak of nine #1 classes in a row is...interesting.  You'd think one of those teams would've broken through at some point.  Must be Saban's sparkling personality. :rolleyes:

(https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/screen-shot-2013-07-29-at-9-15-06-am.png)

 :dielaughing: