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Title: Interesting article on the Shoop hire from an Auburn perspective Post by: Black Diamond Vol on January 10, 2016, 04:23:54 EST http://gridironnow.com/vols-hiring-of-shoop-a-bad-sign-for-auburn-malzahn/
Title: Re: Interesting article on the Shoop hire from an Auburn perspective Post by: Creek Walker on January 10, 2016, 04:33:39 EST Then I got to the end of the article and he says Will Muschamp is a better DC than Shoop, Aranda or Pruitt.
No. Title: Re: Interesting article on the Shoop hire from an Auburn perspective Post by: Black Diamond Vol on January 10, 2016, 04:38:35 EST Then I got to the end of the article and he says Will Muschamp is a better DC than Shoop, Aranda or Pruitt. No. Oh, there's a lot to disagree with there. But the gist of that piece is that Butch is seen as the hot coach that everyone wants to work for, while Mahlzan is seen as a coach in decline. A year ago, could you have imagined that? Hell, how about 3 months ago, when we were sitting at 2-3? Title: Re: Interesting article on the Shoop hire from an Auburn perspective Post by: Creek Walker on January 10, 2016, 04:40:12 EST Oh, there's a lot to disagree with there. But the gist of that piece is that Butch is seen as the hot coach that everyone wants to work for, while Mahlzan is seen as a coach in decline. A year ago, could you have imagined that? Hell, how about 3 months ago, when we were sitting at 2-3? I agree with that perspective. As stated previously, I'm not as sold on this hire as many UT fans seem to be, but what makes me absolutely giddy about it is the fact that LSU tried to hire him last year and couldn't, and now Auburn tried to hire him and couldn't, and he said yes to Tennessee. That's as sure a sign as I know of that the times have changed. Title: Re: Interesting article on the Shoop hire from an Auburn perspective Post by: Tnphil on January 10, 2016, 06:38:15 EST It's nice to see UT hire a coach that's considered a HOT name....been a while since we've seen that here. But......I'll wait until a Florida, Bama, A&M etc. game where we are up 2 points with 3 minutes left in the 4th quarter to make a judgment.
IMO, this is where Butch made his decision to part ways with Jancek. We were never safe late in a game with our defense under Jancek the past 3 years it seems. This season look no further than OU...Florida...Ark...Bama. My gosh, just give me 2 of those games as wins!!......And even in some wins it was nail biting time. UGA took the ball over on the 1 foot line and drove the field to where we had to bat a ball down at the goal line to preserve the win. IIRC....USCe took over late on about the 15 and drove down the field and if not for a fumble on our 8 we most likely lose that game because we COULD NOT stop them the 4th. quarter. Welcome aboard Coach Shoop......Now, get us some stops in nut-cutten time! Title: Re: Interesting article on the Shoop hire from an Auburn perspective Post by: PirateVOL on January 10, 2016, 06:56:02 EST It's nice to see UT hire a coach that's considered a HOT name....been a while since we've seen that here. But......I'll wait until a Florida, Bama, A&M etc. game where we are up 2 points with 3 minutes left in the 4th quarter to make a judgment. Fundamentals need work. Tackling was, at times, horrendous. Coverage, closing on the ball, not good. The DL had the best fundamentals, IMO due to Coach Strip. While the LBs improved and were/are very good athletically all too often they were out of position - why? Zone coverage in particular needs work. FWIW we played zone much better in the bowl game (man under, zone over the top, more than we had been during the season). For a number of years, through several DCs, our safeties have been bad in zone (really, really bad under Chavis). I hope that improves under Shoop.IMO, this is where Butch made his decision to part ways with Jancek. We were never safe late in a game with our defense under Jancek the past 3 years it seems. This season look no further than OU...Florida...Ark...Bama. My gosh, just give me 2 of those games as wins!!......And even in some wins it was nail biting time. UGA took the ball over on the 1 foot line and drove the field to where we had to bat a ball down at the goal line to preserve the win. IIRC....USCe took over late on about the 15 and drove down the field and if not for a fumble on our 8 we most likely lose that game because we COULD NOT stop them the 4th. quarter. Welcome aboard Coach Shoop......Now, get us some stops in nut-cutten time! Title: Re: Interesting article on the Shoop hire from an Auburn perspective Post by: Tnphil on January 10, 2016, 07:08:15 EST Fundamentals need work. Tackling was, at times, horrendous. Coverage, closing on the ball, not good. The DL had the best fundamentals, IMO due to Coach Strip. While the LBs improved and were/are very good athletically all too often they were out of position - why? Zone coverage in particular needs work. FWIW we played zone much better in the bowl game (man under, zone over the top, more than we had been during the season). For a number of years, through several DCs, our safeties have been bad in zone (really, really bad under Chavis). I hope that improves under Shoop. Agree, Pirate....Good post! Based on what I've read on some Penn State boards Shoops has some weakness on that backend of his defense....Ouch! Title: Re: Interesting article on the Shoop hire from an Auburn perspective Post by: BanditVol on January 10, 2016, 10:06:05 EST Oh, there's a lot to disagree with there. But the gist of that piece is that Butch is seen as the hot coach that everyone wants to work for, while Mahlzan is seen as a coach in decline. A year ago, could you have imagined that? Hell, how about 3 months ago, when we were sitting at 2-3? yeah Auburn is equal to if not superior to Tennessee in facilities, tradition, recruiting base (far superior), quality of life … Knoxville may not be the garden spot of the entire world, but anyone who speaks of "quality of life" down on the plains is just plain funny :dielaughing: :dielaughing: :dielaughing: :dielaughing: And while their facilities may be close (with our recent upgrade we are one of the best in the country though) our tradition is just flat better than theirs, although they do have a fine one Anyway, this might be the best hire we've made in some time. Down the road, I even wonder if Shoop is HC material. :naughty: Title: Re: Interesting article on the Shoop hire from an Auburn perspective Post by: Black Diamond Vol on January 10, 2016, 10:34:11 EST yeah Auburn is equal to if not superior to Tennessee in facilities, tradition, recruiting base (far superior), quality of life … Knoxville may not be the garden spot of the entire world, but anyone who speaks of "quality of life" down on the plains is just plain funny :dielaughing: :dielaughing: :dielaughing: :dielaughing: And while their facilities may be close (with our recent upgrade we are one of the best in the country though) our tradition is just flat better than theirs, although they do have a fine one Anyway, this might be the best hire we've made in some time. Down the road, I even wonder if Shoop is HC material. :naughty: Yeah- the sour grapes crowd on the PSU board is saying that he'll only stay at UT 2-3 years before taking a HC job. To which I say, GOOD. I certainly hope so. If he does that well, then it probably means really good things for our program. The most inappropriate comment on VN that I still found really funny (because I'm just an ass like that): "There's so much butthurt up in PA today that I thought Jerry Sandusky had escaped from prison". :dielaughing: |