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Title: Dobbs doubtful this weekend?
Post by: Tnphil on September 05, 2016, 12:37:25 EDT
Per TOS

Extremely painful rib injury.

After watching that hit several times Dobbs is lucky he got up after that hit. You could tell by his look on the sidelines he was in a lot of pain.


Title: Re: Dobbs doubtful this weekend?
Post by: PirateVOL on September 05, 2016, 12:38:41 EDT
Per TOS

Extremely painful rib injury.

After watching that hit several times Dobbs is lucky he got up after that hit. You could tell by his look on the sidelines he was in a lot of pain.
Depends on your sources
247 yes
VQ No


Title: Re: Dobbs doubtful this weekend?
Post by: Tnphil on September 05, 2016, 12:44:47 EDT
TOS said it was said on the ANML


Title: Re: Dobbs doubtful this weekend?
Post by: Creek Walker on September 05, 2016, 01:26:04 EDT
TOS said it was said on the ANML

Does that mean it originated with Hyams?


Title: Re: Dobbs doubtful this weekend?
Post by: Tnphil on September 05, 2016, 02:25:01 EDT
I've seen it said it's true and seen it reported as false. As Pirate posted....it depends on what site you are getting info.

Hope he plays for sure.


Title: Re: Dobbs doubtful this weekend?
Post by: Creek Walker on September 05, 2016, 02:39:04 EDT
I no longer have my VQ subscription, but from what I gather on Twitter, John Brice reported that Dobbs' ribs were sore and people went berserk. He asked Butch whether Dobbs has fractured ribs and Butch was coy (as usual). If Dobbs is really hurt, we aren't likely to know about it until the end of the week, because Butch will be Butch.

IMO, if Dobbs is out, Guarantano has to get plenty of reps in practice this week and be ready for his redshirt to be burned Saturday, if necessary. Not that I'm doubting Dormady's ability...well, maybe I am.


Title: Re: Dobbs doubtful this weekend?
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on September 05, 2016, 02:48:40 EDT
I no longer have my VQ subscription, but from what I gather on Twitter, John Brice reported that Dobbs' ribs were sore and people went berserk. He asked Butch whether Dobbs has fractured ribs and Butch was coy (as usual). If Dobbs is really hurt, we aren't likely to know about it until the end of the week, because Butch will be Butch.

IMO, if Dobbs is out, Guarantano has to get plenty of reps in practice this week and be ready for his redshirt to be burned Saturday, if necessary. Not that I'm doubting Dormady's ability...well, maybe I am.

I don't know.  It would be one thing to throw a true freshman in there if he were here in the spring and had gotten reps with the ones during fall.   It would be another thing if we were playing Ohio or Tennessee Tech this week.  But that's not the case.  Barring another catastrophic injury or two, I'd keep his redshirt intact.  I think Dormady will do fine.  In fact, we'll probably be a better passing offense with him.  If he doesn't play well, Jones is the next guy in.  All of this is assuming the Dobbs rumor turns out to be accurate,  of course.


Title: Re: Dobbs doubtful this weekend?
Post by: PirateVOL on September 05, 2016, 02:49:32 EDT
I no longer have my VQ subscription, but from what I gather on Twitter, John Brice reported that Dobbs' ribs were sore and people went berserk. He asked Butch whether Dobbs has fractured ribs and Butch was coy (as usual). If Dobbs is really hurt, we aren't likely to know about it until the end of the week, because Butch will be Butch.

IMO, if Dobbs is out, Guarantano has to get plenty of reps in practice this week and be ready for his redshirt to be burned Saturday, if necessary. Not that I'm doubting Dormady's ability...well, maybe I am.
Agreed
Watched him in warmups Thursday night.  He can spin it


Title: Re: Dobbs doubtful this weekend?
Post by: PirateVOL on September 05, 2016, 02:54:31 EDT
Agreed
Watched him in warmups Thursday night.  He can spin it
OTOH, they didn't sub for an obviously troubled CT Thursday ... :rolleyes:


Title: Re: Dobbs doubtful this weekend?
Post by: VinnieVOL on September 05, 2016, 03:31:03 EDT
If QD has to play, I fear it will be the Worley show all over again because of our interior OL issues.

If it's JG, DeBord may never call another forward pass.

So, I hope Dobbs is ok.


Title: Re: Dobbs doubtful this weekend?
Post by: Tnphil on September 05, 2016, 04:00:06 EDT
If QD has to play, I fear it will be the Worley show all over again because of our interior OL issues.

If it's JG, DeBord may never call another forward pass.

So, I hope Dobbs is ok.

Truer words never spoke.


Title: Re: Dobbs doubtful this weekend?
Post by: VinnieVOL on September 05, 2016, 04:54:02 EDT
Here's my thinking, if Dobbs needs to rest...sit him vs VT so that he can heal.  SEC championship is the goal.


Title: Re: Dobbs doubtful this weekend?
Post by: HerbTarlekVol on September 05, 2016, 06:42:30 EDT
If Guarantano is the QB that those who have seen him say he is, then the chances of his being here 4 years are less than 50/50.  Do we really want to waste a year of his eligibility?

Just food for thought. 


Title: Re: Dobbs doubtful this weekend?
Post by: murfvol on September 05, 2016, 10:13:48 EDT
I think Dormady can throw. Whether he can with two unblocked defenders coming at him is a different question. Play the guy who can help us win now. Don't worry about some five year horizon.

Had we beaten OU and UF last year, or even UF a prior year, the situation might be different. There are no reserve funds for this year accumulated in years past.


Title: Re: Dobbs doubtful this weekend?
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on September 05, 2016, 12:19:54 EDT
My thinking is less about preserving his eligibility and more about having doubts that he's  ready yet.  He's only been on campus for, what- 6 weeks?  I don't care how simplistic our offense appears to be, that's an awfully short time to digest it all.  If the situation dictates that he plays later in the season,  I'm fine with that.  But this early?  Against a Bud Foster defense?  I don't think so.


Title: Re: Dobbs doubtful this weekend?
Post by: murfvol on September 05, 2016, 03:09:24 EDT
That's a fair point BDV. Were he an EE, the equation would be different. That having been said , if he knows 30 plays fairly well,  that may be enough.

I'm for giving Dormady a shot if Dobbs is dinged up though.


Title: Re: Dobbs doubtful this weekend?
Post by: Creek Walker on September 05, 2016, 04:47:41 EDT
To be clear, if Dobbs can't go, Dormady is the clear starter. That's a no-brainer. What I'm saying is having JG ready in case our offense can't move the ball is an option that should be considered. With that said, most of the reasons to doubt Dormady's ability (a pro-style QB in our current offense) would also be reason to doubt JG's ability to step in right away.


Title: Re: Dobbs doubtful this weekend?
Post by: Tnphil on September 05, 2016, 05:54:46 EDT
Dormady has enough wheels to keep the defense honest......The Texas QB won't beat anybody with his legs but he kept 5-6 times last night and was effective.....and he has a arm. I believe Dormady is in the same mold. Question is...can our OL block anybody?


Title: Re: Dobbs doubtful this weekend?
Post by: tshadow on September 05, 2016, 06:01:25 EDT
As painful as it may be... our coaches need to feel the force of circumstance before it actually comes. You can't have experience without living experience. They are there to play football... put em on the field and learn how to recruit if you don't already know how.


Title: Re: Dobbs doubtful this weekend?
Post by: Creek Walker on September 05, 2016, 06:35:43 EDT
Butch says Dobbs is "sore but fine" and will start Saturday.

He also said TnPhil needs to check his sources.  :laugh: (Sorry, Phil, I think Butch's comment about checking sources was probably aimed at Volnation. Lol.)


Title: Re: Dobbs doubtful this weekend?
Post by: PirateVOL on September 05, 2016, 06:39:04 EDT
Butch says Dobbs is "sore but fine" and will start Saturday.

He also said TnPhil needs to check his sources.  :laugh: (Sorry, Phil, I think Butch's comment about checking sources was probably aimed at Volnation. Lol.)
I note it was Brice that asked the question
I also note he was tweeting while on the sideline Thursday night with the VOL Network


Title: Re: Dobbs doubtful this weekend?
Post by: PirateVOL on September 05, 2016, 06:44:26 EDT
Dobbs seems to be moving well in his presser.  He has made a point to move around and stretch and take deep breaths as he speaks


Title: Re: Dobbs doubtful this weekend?
Post by: Tnphil on September 05, 2016, 07:00:00 EDT
Butch said he will play.


Title: Re: Dobbs doubtful this weekend?
Post by: BanditVol on September 06, 2016, 12:22:37 EDT
I think throwing JG in too early might result in a "Peterman" result.  Of course, it's not UF and not the Swamp, and he likely would not start, but still.

Dormady would be serviceable iMO.

Speaking of stud QBs, Ferguson threw three TD passes Sunday for Memphis.  Granted it was against some garbage team, but our lack of passing attack almost makes me wish he had stayed.


Title: Re: Dobbs doubtful this weekend?
Post by: HerbTarlekVol on September 06, 2016, 01:30:15 EDT
Butch said he will play.

And Butch has always been so forthcoming with information ...........

Just saying.   :naughty:


Title: Re: Dobbs doubtful this weekend?
Post by: Tnphil on September 06, 2016, 01:32:01 EDT
And Butch has always been so forthcoming with information ...........

Just saying.   :naughty:

Agree....and if I was Butch and knew he wasn't playing I wouldn't put that info out on Monday either.


Title: Re: Dobbs doubtful this weekend?
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on September 06, 2016, 01:47:10 EDT
And Butch has always been so forthcoming with information ...........

Just saying.   :naughty:

Yeah.  I'm still worried that he'll be a surprise scratch on Saturday.  I'm even more worried that he'll play when he shouldn't. :frown:


Title: Re: Dobbs doubtful this weekend?
Post by: RockyMtnVol on September 06, 2016, 01:49:59 EDT
Yeah.  I'm still worried that he'll be a surprise scratch on Saturday.  I'm even more worried that he'll play when he shouldn't. :frown:

^This.  With healthy ribs, he's not that accurate and a bit loose with the football.  In my experience, really banged up ribs don't help with that.