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Title: How about an onside kick to start the 2H?
Post by: japanvol on September 05, 2017, 03:41:47 EDT
Even if we don't recover, the way GT is moving the ball if the defense would be on the field for a shorter amount of time (they've got to be getting tired) and there would be more game time left to work with.
What do you think?


Title: Re: How about an onside kick to start the 2H?
Post by: PirateVOL on September 05, 2017, 03:42:25 EDT
Even if we don't recover, the way GT is moving the ball if the defense would be on the field for a shorter amount of time (they've got to be getting tired) and there would be more game time left to work with.
What do you think?
good idea
Nice to see you back


Title: Re: How about an onside kick to start the 2H?
Post by: japanvol on September 05, 2017, 04:14:34 EDT
Thanks.
Unfortunately we'd have no such luck and nothing was any different on that first drive, offense or defense.
Just think how bad this would be if we didn't have all summer to prepare.
This is the most disappointed I've been in a long time.
We need a miracle at this point.


Title: Re: How about an onside kick to start the 2H?
Post by: japanvol on September 05, 2017, 06:48:25 EDT
So I guess Paul Bain blocking the game winning field goal, and getting the W despite giving up 535 yards rushing, a UT historical worst, qualifies as a miracle.
What's the last UT win that qualifies as an equal or greater miracle?
Two that come to mind for are LSU in 2005 and Notre Dame in 1991.


Title: Re: How about an onside kick to start the 2H?
Post by: Creek Walker on September 05, 2017, 06:49:31 EDT
So I guess Paul Bain blocking the game winning field goal, and getting the W despite giving up 535 yards rushing, a UT historical worst, qualifies as a miracle.
What's the last UT win that qualifies as an equal or greater miracle?
Two that come to mind for are LSU in 2005 and Notre Dame in 1991.

2016 Georgia.


Title: Re: How about an onside kick to start the 2H?
Post by: VinnieVOL on September 05, 2017, 06:54:22 EDT
2016 Georgia.

Lol, and right now a goal line stand tonight vs GT seems like more of a miracle than the hail mary.


Title: Re: How about an onside kick to start the 2H?
Post by: japanvol on September 05, 2017, 07:06:45 EDT
2016 UGA didn't feel like tonight to me. Despite the deficit never being more than a 14 points it seemed like it would take a miracle to win because we had no answer for the GT rushing attack. The UGA game last year, and even in 2015 when UT was down big in the 1H, seemed like games where a win was still possible, not miraculous. To me anyway.


Title: Re: How about an onside kick to start the 2H?
Post by: Creek Walker on September 05, 2017, 07:12:40 EDT
I think in terms of sheer probability, the 2016 Georgia game takes the prize. Tonight we were never out of it. Two scores is not difficult to overcome...even though ESPN's talking idiots (Reece and Kirk; I'm not a fan of either) seemed to think so and, yes, most of us fans did, too (myself included).

But it was just about big-time plays at the right time. Some would say GaTech gave the game away by stopping themselves when UT couldn't. Maybe. But that was a heads-up play by Gaulden to knock the ball loose late in the fourth quarter. Obviously if GaTech scores there it is lights out. Paul Bain getting his big mitt up enough to block what was little more than a chip shot field goal. Taylor stuffing Marshall on the two-point conversion try.

I guess I'm with Vinnie. That stand in the second OT was darn near miraculous, given the way the D had played for most of the game. I, for one, did not think we could stop them there.


Title: Re: How about an onside kick to start the 2H?
Post by: PirateVOL on September 05, 2017, 11:49:24 EDT
I think in terms of sheer probability, the 2016 Georgia game takes the prize. Tonight we were never out of it. Two scores is not difficult to overcome...even though ESPN's talking idiots (Reece and Kirk; I'm not a fan of either) seemed to think so and, yes, most of us fans did, too (myself included).

But it was just about big-time plays at the right time. Some would say GaTech gave the game away by stopping themselves when UT couldn't. Maybe. But that was a heads-up play by Gaulden to knock the ball loose late in the fourth quarter. Obviously if GaTech scores there it is lights out. Paul Bain getting his big mitt up enough to block what was little more than a chip shot field goal. Taylor stuffing Marshall on the two-point conversion try.

I guess I'm with Vinnie. That stand in the second OT was darn near miraculous, given the way the D had played for most of the game. I, for one, did not think we could stop them there.
I suspect the defense knew the counter was coming and perhaps baited it.  If you look at the play the entire left side played the counter.
Also, don't underestimate the value of back to back TOs allow the defense a breather.  after almost a 100 snaps that was invaluable.


Title: Re: How about an onside kick to start the 2H?
Post by: BanditVol on September 05, 2017, 03:44:49 EDT
Quasi-miraculous  :toothless:

But let's not sugar coat the fact that this is the most rushing yards allowed by a Tennessee defense.  Ever.   :wtf:  Against a new QB, who, in spite of Kirk and Reece's knob-slobbering, likely and unfortunately looks a lot better than he is by virtue of the fact that he played us.

It looks as though this D has reverted to it's November form when we allowed both Missouri and Kentucky 400+ yards rushing.  The thing that gets me is that it wasn't just "option trickeration".  Their bread and butter seemed to consist of running straight at our DL on first down and consistently gashing it for 4-5 yards. That isn't going to cut it from here on out.

Did that year off in HS really soften Kahill that much?  I'm beginning to think so.

Having said that, I am very grateful and appreciative that the D made some key plays and pulled this one out. 

But oh boy, do we have something to worry about.   :doh: