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Title: What is our QB situation?
Post by: murfvol on October 20, 2019, 10:24:30 EDT
South Carolina is a must win, but if Maurer can't go what do we do. JG might be able to win, but surely Shrout could hand off too.

Plus, the latter might hit a deep ball. I'd be really tempted to get Jennings some snaps if Shrout can't do it.


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: Tnphil on October 20, 2019, 10:29:24 EDT
USC opened at 4.5 favorites.....If GitMoreWorse starts it goes up. He should NEVER see the field again even if we have to put a student manager at QB. JG has LOSER written all over him and has for 3 years.


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: BanditVol on October 20, 2019, 10:31:10 EDT
I think Mauer will be ready to go.  You know he wants to.   :nod: :nod:


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: Tnphil on October 20, 2019, 10:38:04 EDT
I think Mauer will be ready to go.  You know he wants to.   :nod: :nod:


If...if he's concussed again he won't go. Two times in two weeks is 2 too much to play. Hope he does but will be shocked if he plays.


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: BanditVol on October 20, 2019, 10:48:52 EDT

If...if he's concussed again he won't go. Two times in two weeks is 2 too much to play. Hope he does but will be shocked if he plays.

Bleah.  If so, I guess we find out how good Sheout is.  Decent chance he's not concussed though.  He was pretty livid that Pruitt pulled him, I think given what happened last week, Pruitt erred on the side of caution last night.


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: HerbTarlekVol on October 20, 2019, 10:50:36 EDT
Murer, Shrout, JJ is what I would like to see.

I don't want to see GuaranTANo anywhere near the field on game days for UT again. 


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: SmokeyJoe on October 20, 2019, 10:51:29 EDT
Jennings with some wildcat with Shrout could work!


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: SmokeyJoe on October 20, 2019, 10:53:19 EDT
Jennings with some wildcat with Shrout could work!

The one pass Shrout got off, that I recall, was a decent pass. Albeit incomplete.


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: HerbTarlekVol on October 20, 2019, 10:59:54 EDT
The one pass Shrout got off, that I recall, was a decent pass. Albeit incomplete.

Shrout has a very good arm.  He just has issues with decision making and trying to force the football where he shouldn't throw it. 


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: Tnphil on October 20, 2019, 11:00:00 EDT
Bleah.  If so, I guess we find out how good Shout is.  Decent chance he's not concussed though.  He was pretty livid that Pruitt pulled him, I think give what happened last week, Pruitt erred on the side of caution last night.

Maybe he's not....But something was up or Pruitt would have never pulled him or at least put him back in the 2nd half.. Pruitt knew we had zero chance with JG in there.


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: Creek Walker on October 20, 2019, 11:45:49 EDT
I'm 100% done with JG. If we have to go the UK route and start JJ at QB next week, so be it.


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: Tnphil on October 21, 2019, 12:03:24 EDT
JG should never see the field again and should have been told today to enter the transfer portal.


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on October 21, 2019, 01:27:48 EDT
Here, let me draw you a depth chart:

(https://media.giphy.com/media/l0IynvPneUpb7SnBe/giphy.gif)


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: murfvol on October 21, 2019, 02:11:20 EDT
I can't tell if BDV's depth chart is from this week or last week.


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: Tnphil on October 21, 2019, 02:42:14 EDT
We have a QB that can't stay on the field for more than 2 quarters.....A QB in JG that couldn't start at MTSU....and what I've seen from Shrout he needs a couple more seasons of Jim Bob Cooter holding the clipboard training and a Maryland transfer that can't play until next season. I'd say we are somewhere between a rock and a hard place. :toothless:


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: BanditVol on October 21, 2019, 03:55:46 EDT
Maybe he's not....But something was up or Pruitt would have never pulled him or at least put him back in the 2nd half.. Pruitt knew we had zero chance with JG in there.

Like I said, erred on the side of caution.

As for what JG did or didn't do, Trey Smith called it a "miscommunication".   I'd say rushing to run the play fast backfired.


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: Tnphil on October 21, 2019, 04:29:37 EDT
Like I said, erred on the side of caution.

As for what JG did or didn't do, Trey Smith called it a "miscommunication".   I'd say rushing to run the play fast backfired.

Watch this...Trey Smith pulling tells you where the play was supposed to go....You could have scored here.


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: BanditVol on October 21, 2019, 04:51:26 EDT
Watch this...Trey Smith pulling tells you where the play was supposed to go....You could have scored here.

I've seen the view from the top, if that's what you are trying to post.  Wouldn't mind seeing it again.   :naughty:


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: Tnphil on October 21, 2019, 02:21:48 EDT
I've seen the view from the top, if that's what you are trying to post.  Wouldn't mind seeing it again.   :naughty:

LOL...don't know why it didn't post

https://twitter.com/allenrussell2/status/1185779983630962690?s=21


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: HerbTarlekVol on October 21, 2019, 02:59:32 EDT
Like I said, erred on the side of caution.

As for what JG did or didn't do, Trey Smith called it a "miscommunication".   I'd say rushing to run the play fast backfired.

The LT kicks out.  The LG pulls to the outside.  The FB in the game (actually TE Austin Pope lined up at FB) heads towards the left side, as does the would be ball carrier, Couch.  The center said that a play was called in the huddle, and he had no idea what happened between the huddle and the snap. 

Now, tell me again that there was miscommunication.  It was a run designed to get to the outside.  The only miscommunication came from between JG's ears.  Those guys were being good team mates and not throwing JG under the bus. 

Anybody with a damned brain could see what happened. 


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: VinnieVOL on October 21, 2019, 03:30:43 EDT
Those guys were being good team mates and not throwing JG under the bus. 


This


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: BanditVol on October 21, 2019, 04:55:08 EDT
The LT kicks out.  The LG pulls to the outside.  The FB in the game (actually TE Austin Pope lined up at FB) heads towards the left side, as does the would be ball carrier, Couch.  The center said that a play was called in the huddle, and he had no idea what happened between the huddle and the snap. 

Now, tell me again that there was miscommunication.  It was a run designed to get to the outside.  The only miscommunication came from between JG's ears.  Those guys were being good team mates and not throwing JG under the bus. 

Anybody with a damned brain could see what happened. 

This is what Jesee Simonton reported:

Tennessee's players admitted a play was called in the huddle but changed at the line


So what does "changed at the line" mean?  Did JG try to audible, or did he just go rogue like most think? If he did audible, the rest of the team didn't hear it, that could be the miscommunication part.  Makes perfect sense to anyone with a full brain.   :naughty:


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: VinnieVOL on October 21, 2019, 05:03:44 EDT
This is what Jesee Simonton reported:

Tennessee's players admitted a play was called in the huddle but changed at the line


So what does "changed at the line" mean?  Did JG try to audible, or did he just go rogue like most think? If he did audible, the rest of the team didn't hear it, that could be the miscommunication part.  Makes perfect sense to anyone with a full brain.   :naughty:

You seem to be in "argue mode" and refuse to acknowledge the possibility that JG went rogue.

Did you see how they rushed to the line to try and run a play quickly?  There was no time for JG to survey the D and change the play via audible, and even then I also didn't see JG motion or say anything at the line to indicate he was changing the play.  That is a very reasonable conclusion based on watching the play.

I've seen all the reported comments that the TN beat writers are putting out there as well as Pruitt's comments, and it's quite obvious that these players were put on the spot and asked "what happened?" and they took the route of being a good teammate and didn't want to openly admit JG did the unthinkable.  I ask again, why did Pruitt blow up on JG the way he did if it was simply a matter of the rest of the team not hearing the audible?  And why did Trey pretty much shut down the line of questioning by saying "I don't want to get into it"?  There is simply no way all of the other 10 offensive players on the field didn't get JG's supposed audible.


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: BanditVol on October 21, 2019, 05:14:07 EDT
You seem to be in "argue mode" and refuse to acknowledge the possibility that JG went rogue.

Did you see how they rushed to the line to try and run a play quickly?  There was no time for JG to survey the D and change the play via audible, and even then I also didn't see JG motion or say anything at the line to indicate he was changing the play.  That is a very reasonable conclusion based on watching the play.

I've seen all the reported comments that the TN beat writers are putting out there as well as Pruitt's comments, and it's quite obvious that these players were put on the spot and asked "what happened?" and they took the route of being a good teammate and didn't want to openly admit JG did the unthinkable.  I ask again, why did Pruitt blow up on JG the way he did if it was simply a matter of the rest of the team not hearing the audible?  And why did Trey pretty much shut down the line of questioning by saying "I don't want to get into it"?  There is simply no way all of the other 10 offensive players on the field didn't get JG's supposed audible.

Nope, not refusing it at all. Just wonder what "changing the play at the line" means.  You are right about the amount of time though, I had thought of that.  So I would defnitely lean towards he went rogue.  The blocking scheme definitely was not for a QB sneak. 

But I will say this also...take a time out, don't try to rush the play, and likely this doesn't happen.  Doesn't excuse JG, but I was not a fan of the decision to try and get the play off quickly.  Still, had JG handed the ball off, we would very likely have scored.

And yeah, I know, on the view that TnPhil posted it looks like Crouch could have walked in, but you have to factor in that the defense reacted to the sneak.  Had they seen the handoff, the hole might have been filled.


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: Creek Walker on October 21, 2019, 05:28:13 EDT
You seem to be in "argue mode" and refuse to acknowledge the possibility that JG went rogue.


BanditVol in argue mode? Surely you jest!  :laugh:


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: HerbTarlekVol on October 21, 2019, 05:43:03 EDT
Nope, not refusing it at all. Just wonder what "changing the play at the line" means.  You are right about the amount of time though, I had thought of that.  So I would defnitely lean towards he went rogue.  The blocking scheme definitely was not for a QB sneak. 

But I will say this also...take a time out, don't try to rush the play, and likely this doesn't happen.  Doesn't excuse JG, but I was not a fan of the decision to try and get the play off quickly.  Still, had JG handed the ball off, we would very likely have scored.

And yeah, I know, on the view that TnPhil posted it looks like Crouch could have walked in, but you have to factor in that the defense reacted to the sneak.  Had they seen the handoff, the hole might have been filled.

Look, dumfizzle.  EVERYBODY ran the same play except for one person.  Every damned one of them.   If the play was changed, the QB forgot to relay that to the rest of the team.  The only miscoummunication came in his own head. 

You really do look stupid trying to defend the indefensible. 



Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: Tnphil on October 21, 2019, 05:48:05 EDT
Watch Trey Smith the left guard....You DO NOT pull your guard on a QB sneak. Watch the left tackle and left tight end.....You DO NOT have your left tackle and and tight end block down on a QB sneak....they are blocking Bama's defensive line into the QB sneak area....Watch our fullback and tailback going to the hole off tackle to the left where the play was meant to go until they realized Gitmo had screwed up and they went to try and help.....Watch Trey Smith block his man back into the end zone where the play was called to go.......And watch the Bama linebackers right before the snap walk up into the gaps between the left and right guard and center....Right then and there any QB on any level who had called his own damn number for a sneak would call timeout when he saw the backers walk into the gaps. It was a total screw up by the QB......Bama was in the exact defense we wanted them to be in for the play we had called...They played right into our hands and the QB screwed the pooch......My 13 year old Grandson would have scored on that play.


https://twitter.com/allenrussell2/status/1185779983630962690?s=21


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: HerbTarlekVol on October 21, 2019, 06:05:22 EDT
Watch Trey Smith the left guard....You DO NOT pull your guard on a QB sneak. Watch the left tackle and left tight end.....You DO NOT have your left tackle and and tight end block down on a QB sneak....they are blocking Bama's defensive line into the QB sneak area....Watch our fullback and tailback going to the hole off tackle to the left where the play was meant to go until they realized Gitmo had screwed up and they went to try and help.....Watch Trey Smith block his man back into the end zone where the play was called to go.......And watch the Bama linebackers right before the snap walk up into the gaps between the left and right guard and center....Right then and there any QB on any level who had called his own damn number for a sneak would call timeout when he saw the backers walk into the gaps. It was a total screw up by the QB......Bama was in the exact defense we wanted them to be in for the play we had called...They played right into our hands and the QB screwed the pooch......My 13 year old Grandson would have scored on that play.


https://twitter.com/allenrussell2/status/1185779983630962690?s=21

No need to even try any more.  That dumb MickeyFickey will never get it.  He isn't capable. 


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: VinnieVOL on October 21, 2019, 06:15:16 EDT
Fizzle and shizzle.


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: BanditVol on October 21, 2019, 07:39:55 EDT
Look, dumfizzle.  EVERYBODY ran the same play except for one person.  Every damned one of them.   If the play was changed, the QB forgot to relay that to the rest of the team.  The only miscoummunication came in his own head. 

You really do look stupid trying to defend the indefensible. 



I can always count on you to blow up and make a complete arse of yourself  :dielaughing:


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: BanditVol on October 21, 2019, 07:40:46 EDT
BanditVol in argue mode? Surely you jest!  :laugh:

Just nit picking a bit  :naughty:


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: BanditVol on October 21, 2019, 07:43:02 EDT
Watch Trey Smith the left guard....You DO NOT pull your guard on a QB sneak. Watch the left tackle and left tight end.....You DO NOT have your left tackle and and tight end block down on a QB sneak....they are blocking Bama's defensive line into the QB sneak area....Watch our fullback and tailback going to the hole off tackle to the left where the play was meant to go until they realized Gitmo had screwed up and they went to try and help.....Watch Trey Smith block his man back into the end zone where the play was called to go.......And watch the Bama linebackers right before the snap walk up into the gaps between the left and right guard and center....Right then and there any QB on any level who had called his own damn number for a sneak would call timeout when he saw the backers walk into the gaps. It was a total screw up by the QB......Bama was in the exact defense we wanted them to be in for the play we had called...They played right into our hands and the QB screwed the pooch......My 13 year old Grandson would have scored on that play.


https://twitter.com/allenrussell2/status/1185779983630962690?s=21

Yeah, I get it. the video is very convincing.


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: BanditVol on October 21, 2019, 08:10:05 EDT
No need to even try any more.  That dumb MickeyFickey will never get it.  He isn't capable. 

On the contrary, I really appreciate TnPhil's post.  Some people know how to post, others don't. 



Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: VinnieVOL on October 21, 2019, 08:16:38 EDT
Watch Trey Smith the left guard....You DO NOT pull your guard on a QB sneak. Watch the left tackle and left tight end.....You DO NOT have your left tackle and and tight end block down on a QB sneak....they are blocking Bama's defensive line into the QB sneak area....Watch our fullback and tailback going to the hole off tackle to the left where the play was meant to go until they realized Gitmo had screwed up and they went to try and help.....Watch Trey Smith block his man back into the end zone where the play was called to go.......And watch the Bama linebackers right before the snap walk up into the gaps between the left and right guard and center....Right then and there any QB on any level who had called his own damn number for a sneak would call timeout when he saw the backers walk into the gaps. It was a total screw up by the QB......Bama was in the exact defense we wanted them to be in for the play we had called...They played right into our hands and the QB screwed the pooch......My 13 year old Grandson would have scored on that play.


https://twitter.com/allenrussell2/status/1185779983630962690?s=21

If it was an audible, which it most obviously wasn't, left guard Trey Smith would've certainly heard it and not pulled.

Perfect play call and perfect execution by everyone except JG.


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: Creek Walker on October 21, 2019, 08:28:19 EDT
Man this is fun. A fight that I'm not in the middle of.  :box: :laugh:


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: Coupe De VOL on October 21, 2019, 08:53:38 EDT
I don't know if it has been mentioned before, but did Bammar sucker Git-da-fizzle-outta-here-mo into the sneak?  They left the 1 gap open, then filled it after Git-da-fizzle-outta-here-mo called out a sign or audibled or spoke in toungues or who da fizzle knows.  I have no clue what the crazy fizzle was thinking.  He fizzleing blew it, as is obvious.  I will say i am proud about his teammates and coaching staff showing huge restraint in the blame game.  Not sure if that will last, but jeez, what a Galactic sized F-up that was.  Git-da-fizzle-outta-here-mo managed the game OK when he filled in, but of course he still was able to show off all of his glaring shortcomings.  There was that one swing pass in the red zone where he overthrew a wide open vol by 3-4 yds on what woulda been a sure 6 pts.  I was not able to watch the whole game, but I saw at LEAST 2 times Git-da-fizzle-outta-here-mo deftly avoid the rush and rollout out only to ABSOLUTELY fizzleING REFUSE to look downfield and find an open receiver.  Naw, he opted for a sure 2 yd gain instead both times.  That STUPID MOTHER fizzleER.  IT'S fizzleING MADDENING.  The kid has talent, he is just a fizzleING BASKETCASE.  I Guarantee-ano you he will go on after he leaves UT to the NFL and he will have moderate success.  Why in the hell would I say somehting like that?  Well, that is just how things work for this fizzleed up, shizzlety luck program.


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: Creek Walker on October 21, 2019, 08:55:05 EDT
I don't know if it has been mentioned before, but did Bammar sucker Git-da-fizzle-outta-here-mo into the sneak?  They left the 1 gap open, then filled it after Git-da-fizzle-outta-here-mo called out a sign or audibled or spoke in toungues or who da fizzle knows.  I have no clue what the crazy fizzle was thinking.  He fizzleing blew it, as is obvious.  I will say i am proud about his teammates and coaching staff showing huge restraint in the blame game.  Not sure if that will last, but jeez, what a Galactic sized F-up that was.  Git-da-fizzle-outta-here-mo managed the game OK when he filled in, but of course he still was able to show off all of his glaring shortcomings.  There was that one swing pass in the red zone where he overthrew a wide open vol by 3-4 yds on what woulda been a sure 6 pts.  I was not able to watch the whole game, but I saw at LEAST 2 times Git-da-fizzle-outta-here-mo deftly avoid the rush and rollout out only to ABSOLUTELY fizzleING REFUSE to look downfield and find an open receiver.  Naw, he opted for a sure 2 yd gain instead both times.  That STUPID MOTHER fizzleER.  IT'S fizzleING MADDENING.  The kid has talent, he is just a fizzleING BASKETCASE.  I Guarantee-ano you he will go on after he leaves UT to the NFL and he will have moderate success.  Why in the hell would I say somehting like that?  Well, that is just how things work for this fizzleed up, shizzlety luck program.

You win the award for most fizzles in a post.

BanditVol, forfeit your trophy.


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: PirateVOL on October 21, 2019, 08:58:16 EDT
You win the award for most fizzles in a post.

BanditVol, forfeit your trophy.
What?!?  I'm not in the fizzleing running?!? :bird:
I demand a recount! :naughty:



BTW, FTR, I don't want to see Gitmo behind a Tennessee center, ever again!

I'd rather see JJ running a single-wing offense that ever seeing JG sporting #2 ever again


Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: BanditVol on October 21, 2019, 09:19:00 EDT
If it was an audible, which it most obviously wasn't, left guard Trey Smith would've certainly heard it and not pulled.

Perfect play call and perfect execution by everyone except JG.

If you beat the horse long enough, he might get up and walk.  :naughty:



Title: Re: What is our QB situation?
Post by: VinnieVOL on October 21, 2019, 09:57:40 EDT
If you beat the horse long enough, he might get up and walk.  :naughty:



If you are tired of the subject, stop opening the thread.  Easy peasy!   :dance:

You are one to talk about beating dead horses!   :dielaughing: