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Title: The FSU Taggart situation illustrates why buyouts mean nothing
Post by: Volznut on November 04, 2019, 02:22:57 EST
If they want you gone, they will come up with the buyout.

Taggart wasn't getting it done at FSU so they moved quickly.


Title: Re: The FSU Taggart situation illustrates why buyouts mean nothing
Post by: SmokeyJoe on November 04, 2019, 03:00:12 EST
Yes but Jimbo left them. No buyout. And so they were in a better position than a school like TN. In fact wouldn't A&M have paid fsu?


Title: Re: The FSU Taggart situation illustrates why buyouts mean nothing
Post by: Volznut on November 04, 2019, 03:16:00 EST
Yes but Jimbo left them. No buyout. And so they were in a better position than a school like TN. In fact wouldn't A&M have paid fsu?

Taggart has a large buyout.



Title: Re: The FSU Taggart situation illustrates why buyouts mean nothing
Post by: SmokeyJoe on November 04, 2019, 03:45:24 EST
Taggart has a large buyout.



If they want it done, it can get done. I agree.


Title: Re: The FSU Taggart situation illustrates why buyouts mean nothing
Post by: Tnphil on November 04, 2019, 03:58:39 EST
Based on what I've read the FSU big money people are paying his buyout 100%. Right at 18 million.


Title: Re: The FSU Taggart situation illustrates why buyouts mean nothing
Post by: Volznut on November 04, 2019, 05:12:20 EST
Based on what I've read the FSU big money people are paying his buyout 100%. Right at 18 million.

Yep. IMO they will go after a big name - may already have him



Title: Re: The FSU Taggart situation illustrates why buyouts mean nothing
Post by: VinnieVOL on November 04, 2019, 05:43:49 EST
Which is why I don't get the Mark Stoops talk.  Fork up that kinda buyout dough for.... Mark Stoops?  :dunno:


Title: Re: The FSU Taggart situation illustrates why buyouts mean nothing
Post by: Volznut on November 04, 2019, 06:02:14 EST
Which is why I don't get the Mark Stoops talk.  Fork up that kinda buyout dough for.... Mark Stoops?  :dunno:

Not Mark - but Bob - I could see



Title: Re: The FSU Taggart situation illustrates why buyouts mean nothing
Post by: BanditVol on November 04, 2019, 06:16:01 EST
Or everyone's favorite crazy person!  Urban at FSU.  Gators will jump off bridges en masse.   :naughty:


Title: Re: The FSU Taggart situation illustrates why buyouts mean nothing
Post by: VinnieVOL on November 04, 2019, 06:21:44 EST
Or everyone's favorite crazy person!  Urban at FSU.  Gators will jump off bridges en masse.   :naughty:

Which makes me want to see it happen.  Lol.


Title: Re: The FSU Taggart situation illustrates why buyouts mean nothing
Post by: Tnphil on November 04, 2019, 11:36:02 EST
Don't see Bob Stoops going there....he like Urban Meyer will come up for every opening the next 10 years like Gruden did for some UT fans.

I was listening to a Guru on ESPN this afternoon and he said the main ones paying Taggart's buyout just said 6 months ago they were blaming JimBo for the mess FSU is in.....Said JimBo stopped recruiting....FSU had the worse....yes worse APR for grades and graduation rates in all power 5 football. And now those same folks got Taggart's ass fired...LOL

He also said FSU was a mess and he thought the President and AD would retire before long and what coach would want to come there right now with that possibility and the fact Taggart didn't make it 2 years. Also said this firmly shows that the athletic department doesn't control FSU athletics....the big boosters do. He said FSU was in a bigger mess than any Power 5 program out there.


Title: Re: The FSU Taggart situation illustrates why buyouts mean nothing
Post by: BanditVol on November 05, 2019, 12:01:31 EST
Don't see Bob Stoops going there....he like Urban Meyer will come up for every opening the next 10 years like Gruden did for some UT fans.

I was listening to a Guru on ESPN this afternoon and he said the main ones paying Taggart's buyout just said 6 months ago they were blaming JimBo for the mess FSU is in.....Said JimBo stopped recruiting....FSU had the worse....yes worse APR for grades and graduation rates in all power 5 football. And now those same folks got Taggart's ass fired...LOL

He also said FSU was a mess and he thought the President and AD would retire before long and what coach would want to come there right now with that possibility and the fact Taggart didn't make it 2 years. Also said this firmly shows that the athletic department doesn't control FSU athletics....the big boosters do. He said FSU was in a bigger mess than any Power 5 program out there.

Hm, wow. They would have been better off sticking with Taggart until a new President and AD get established, maybe.

Speaking of which, the world's greatest AD survivor is Mal Moore.  His first act was to give Dumbose a big contract extension, then turn around and fire him.  Then he hired Franchionne, who didn't like bammer and fled west.  I guess that wasn't really Moore's fault, but still Then Mike Price.  Then Shula.  Somehow he survived all that and struck gold with Saban.  Just got lucky IMO.  But how the hell did he ever survive that decade of ineptitude to hire Saban is beyond me.  I'm surprised they didn't burn his house down, lol.


Title: Re: The FSU Taggart situation illustrates why buyouts mean nothing
Post by: VinnieVOL on November 05, 2019, 06:26:49 EST
Don't see Bob Stoops going there....he like Urban Meyer will come up for every opening the next 10 years like Gruden did for some UT fans.


Lots of Twitter chatter this morning (one being Kirk Herbstrei)t, where folks are stating they spoke to Bob Stoops and he claims he's "not a candidate".


Title: Re: The FSU Taggart situation illustrates why buyouts mean nothing
Post by: 73Volgrad on November 05, 2019, 10:02:29 EST
The FSU situation just shows that the Athletic Club can raise $20M to pay the bills if asked. My understanding is FSU had to pay the rest of the contract in full upon the firing. UT needs alumni that has that much money to give away to solve its seemingly yearly money crises.


Title: Re: The FSU Taggart situation illustrates why buyouts mean nothing
Post by: Tnphil on November 06, 2019, 12:42:54 EST
Also based on what I've read FSU still owes close to 5 million on the buyout they had to pay Oregon on Taggarts buyout there.......That's added to the 18 mil  FSU owes Taggart. They really wanted Ole Willie out of there.


Title: Re: The FSU Taggart situation illustrates why buyouts mean nothing
Post by: FLVOL on November 06, 2019, 02:53:00 EST
Also based on what I've read FSU still owes close to 5 million on the buyout they had to pay Oregon on Taggarts buyout there.......That's added to the 18 mil  FSU owes Taggart. They really wanted Ole Willie out of there.

this shows the depth of the UF/UM/FSU rivalry, and the competitiveness of the Florida recruiting grounds. To wit, look at the recruiting class Phil Fulmer brought in when Travis Henry was plucked out of Winterhaven Frostproof.

With all that said, Jeremy Pruitt will be #1 in my book when he can raid the top Florida kids.