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Title: So if Clemson was playing Bama tomorrow would Lawrence be playing or would Post by: volsboy on October 30, 2020, 10:32:47 EDT they cancel the game? :naughty: How about if it's a playoff game?
Title: Re: So if Clemson was playing Bama tomorrow would Lawrence be playing or would Post by: volsboy on October 30, 2020, 11:56:53 EDT What if Clemson loses tomorrow without Lawrence? Would it be fair to keep them out of the playoff if they win the rest of their games with him playing? That's something to ponder.
Title: Re: So if Clemson was playing Bama tomorrow would Lawrence be playing or would Post by: Cobbvol on October 31, 2020, 04:09:08 EDT I have always heard "next man up". I don't see why this approach should not be used in this scenario.
Title: Re: So if Clemson was playing Bama tomorrow would Lawrence be playing or would Post by: volsboy on November 03, 2020, 10:47:06 EST I have always heard "next man up". I don't see why this approach should not be used in this scenario. Dang. Their next man up did pretty well. Can't we just find one QB? All the elite teams seem to have two or three. Not a coincidence.Title: Re: So if Clemson was playing Bama tomorrow would Lawrence be playing or would Post by: Tnphil on November 04, 2020, 12:23:19 EST Clemson's backup true freshman throws 41 times for 330 yards without Spring practice...Summer workouts and limited camp. We have Gitmo that hasn't improved in 5 years and backups tha's been on campus 2 and going on 3 years for Shrout and that can't get on the field. Pitiful and coaching malpractice.
Title: Re: So if Clemson was playing Bama tomorrow would Lawrence be playing or would Post by: BanditVol on November 04, 2020, 12:33:40 EST Clemson's backup true freshman throws 41 times for 330 yards without Spring practice...Summer workouts and limited camp. We have Gitmo that hasn't improved in 5 years and backups tha's been on campus 2 and going on 3 years for Shrout and that can't get on the field. Pitiful and coaching malpractice. JG has improved. At times he has played very well in fact. He's just very inconsistent. Agree that I am also puzzled at seeming lack of replacement, but then again, last year Pruitt/Chaney were quick to pull him out. He then did well in relief. It's a puzzler, but let's see what happens the rest of the way. If JG throws an early stupid int vs. Arkansas, he dam well better find the bench. Title: Re: So if Clemson was playing Bama tomorrow would Lawrence be playing or would Post by: Tnphil on November 04, 2020, 03:34:41 EST JG has improved. At times he has played very well in fact. He's just very inconsistent. Agree that I am also puzzled at seeming lack of replacement, but then again, last year Pruitt/Chaney were quick to pull him out. He then did well in relief. It's a puzzler, but let's see what happens the rest of the way. If JG throws an early stupid int vs. Arkansas, he dam well better find the bench. Making the same mistakes he made 4-3-2 years ago is not improvement. He has his blind squirrel moments but I can find umpteen NAIA QB's that can do the same. Saying he has improved is like saying a case of the claps doesn't burn today as bad as yesterday. Title: Re: So if Clemson was playing Bama tomorrow would Lawrence be playing or would Post by: volsboy on November 04, 2020, 04:15:40 EST I honestly feel bad for JG. The kid has heart. I don't know how he takes all the criticism. I would have thrown in the towel long ago. For that reason he will always be a VFL for me. Until we get an elite QB, which we obviously don't have, we should expect to continue to be irrelevant. How many games remaining on our schedule will we be the favorite? Vandy?
Title: Re: So if Clemson was playing Bama tomorrow would Lawrence be playing or would Post by: BanditVol on November 04, 2020, 04:26:22 EST Making the same mistakes he made 4-3-2 years ago is not improvement. He has his blind squirrel moments but I can find umpteen NAIA QB's that can do the same. Saying he has improved is like saying a case of the claps doesn't burn today as bad as yesterday. I get your point, but there were games in the 8 game streak where he played well and was the difference in winning. He just can't do it consistently. Not arguing that he isn't a problem, he is, but saying he's not any better than he was as a true frosh is defintely a reach, lol. We can agree that he is nowhere near where he should be and that his continuing brain farts are the problem. Title: Re: So if Clemson was playing Bama tomorrow would Lawrence be playing or would Post by: BanditVol on November 04, 2020, 04:27:19 EST I honestly feel bad for JG. The kid has heart. I don't know how he takes all the criticism. I would have thrown in the towel long ago. For that reason he will always be a VFL for me. Until we get an elite QB, which we obviously don't have, we should expect to continue to be irrelevant. How many games remaining on our schedule will we be the favorite? Vandy? Literally per the ESPN RPI, we are an underdog to everyone but Vandy. It's pretty large in most cases, but we are 43% to beat Arkansas. FWIW. Title: Re: So if Clemson was playing Bama tomorrow would Lawrence be playing or would Post by: volsboy on November 04, 2020, 05:22:13 EST Literally per the ESPN RPI, we are an underdog to everyone but Vandy. It's pretty large in most cases, but we are 43% to beat Arkansas. FWIW. That's what I thought. I can't help but blame coaching. I really don't want another Franks led team to beat us this week either. Something tells me we win Saturday. Just like something told me the Bengals would beat the Titans. I think it was crappy pass defense that made me think Bengals would win.Title: Re: So if Clemson was playing Bama tomorrow would Lawrence be playing or would Post by: Tnphil on November 04, 2020, 05:33:37 EST I get your point, but there were games in the 8 game streak where he played well and was the difference in winning. He just can't do it consistently. Not arguing that he isn't a problem, he is, but saying he's not any better than he was as a true frosh is defintely a reach, lol. We can agree that he is nowhere near where he should be and that his continuing brain farts are the problem. He didn't play as a true freshman. Title: Re: So if Clemson was playing Bama tomorrow would Lawrence be playing or would Post by: volsboy on November 04, 2020, 07:06:06 EST I get your point, but there were games in the 8 game streak where he played well and was the difference in winning. He just can't do it consistently. Not arguing that he isn't a problem, he is, but saying he's not any better than he was as a true frosh is defintely a reach, lol. Did he play well against UGa, Bama and UF? He beat teams Tennessee teams should beat. He still has another chance this year to beat UF. I'm not holding my breath.We can agree that he is nowhere near where he should be and that his continuing brain farts are the problem. Title: Re: So if Clemson was playing Bama tomorrow would Lawrence be playing or would Post by: Tnphil on November 04, 2020, 09:18:21 EST Here is how much Gitmo has improved in his 5th Senior year:
Offense 3rd down conversion % 1. Texas A and M ---- 58.7 % 2. Alabama ---- 57.4 3. Ole Miss ---- 52.4 4. Auburn ---- 49.4 5. Florida ---- 48.8 6. Ga ---- 46.7 7. Ky ---- 45.1 8. Mo. ---- 42.1 9. SC ---- 40.6 10. Vandy ----39.0 11. LSU ---- 33.3 12. Miss St. ---- 32.5 13. Arky ---- 31.9 14. Tenn ---- 25.7 This is who we are ahead of nationwide on 3rd down conversion % U. Mass UNLV Syracuse UL Monroe Kansas Illinois Title: Re: So if Clemson was playing Bama tomorrow would Lawrence be playing or would Post by: BanditVol on November 05, 2020, 12:55:44 EST He didn't play as a true freshman. Okay RS freshman. Happy? :naughty: Title: Re: So if Clemson was playing Bama tomorrow would Lawrence be playing or would Post by: volsboy on November 05, 2020, 05:52:08 EST JG has improved. At times he has played very well in fact. He's just very inconsistent. So yay or neigh...is Pruitt the one to lead us to a SECE Championship ever? If not. Why keep him around? That is what any UT coach should strive for.Agree that I am also puzzled at seeming lack of replacement, but then again, last year Pruitt/Chaney were quick to pull him out. He then did well in relief. It's a puzzler, but let's see what happens the rest of the way. If JG throws an early stupid int vs. Arkansas, he dam well better find the bench. Title: Re: So if Clemson was playing Bama tomorrow would Lawrence be playing or would Post by: BanditVol on November 07, 2020, 10:40:30 EST So yay or neigh...is Pruitt the one to lead us to a SECE Championship ever? If not. Why keep him around? That is what any UT coach should strive for. Wow, you won't let go of this. I think we have to see how the rest of the season plays out, and also next season. And it's "nay". I'm not a horse. Title: Re: So if Clemson was playing Bama tomorrow would Lawrence be playing or would Post by: VinnieVOL on November 07, 2020, 11:33:47 EST So yay or neigh... (https://media.tenor.com/images/177b7d6de0724789c5795013b32f7c48/tenor.gif) Title: Re: So if Clemson was playing Bama tomorrow would Lawrence be playing or would Post by: volsboy on November 07, 2020, 11:46:37 EST lol.......how long does he get?
Title: Re: So if Clemson was playing Bama tomorrow would Lawrence be playing or would Post by: Coupe De VOL on November 08, 2020, 12:09:42 EST So yay or neigh...is Pruitt the one to lead us to a SECE Championship ever? If not. Why keep him around? That is what any UT coach should strive for. IMO, you can't begin to make an intelligent assessment on that until the end of next season, at the earliest. COVID really throws a fizzleing wrench in the whole works and mucks everything up. Obviously, I am starting to have my doubts. But I will wait and see where we are late next year. I ain't expecting much. But I am still expecting boatloads of talent to keep flowing in. We have been doing OK in that dept, I guess. |