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Title: Kerry Collins hangs it up...
Post by: midtnvol on July 08, 2011, 04:14:36 EDT

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Kerry-Collins-Tennessee-Titans-announces-his-retirement-070711


Title: Re: Kerry Collins hangs it up...
Post by: 73Volgrad on July 10, 2011, 04:32:27 EDT
Good.  Now Titans might be able to put someone in at QB that can throw the ball more than 25 yards down field without timing it with an hourglass.  Collins is a last resort, main QB hurt or a mental case, type of QB.  Sorry, I cannot get worked up about this.  Face facts, the Titans head office is more worried about the dollars spent and bottom line than they are about putting a competitive team on the field.  They are too cheap to field a good team.  Do not know enough about the new caoches,b but thie old coaching staff make a lot of bone-headed choices with help from the head office.   As long as Bud Adams is in charge, Titans will be a second-rate franchise.


Title: Re: Kerry Collins hangs it up...
Post by: ReVOLver on July 10, 2011, 05:52:52 EDT
Good.  Now Titans might be able to put someone in at QB that can throw the ball more than 25 yards down field without timing it with an hourglass.  Collins is a last resort, main QB hurt or a mental case, type of QB.  Sorry, I cannot get worked up about this.  Face facts, the Titans head office is more worried about the dollars spent and bottom line than they are about putting a competitive team on the field.  They are too cheap to field a good team.  Do not know enough about the new caoches,b but thie old coaching staff make a lot of bone-headed choices with help from the head office.   As long as Bud Adams is in charge, Titans will be a second-rate franchise.

A lot of fans have that perception but I don't think that's factual at all. They will spend money and have spent it, they just haven't been great at talent evaluation lately.


Title: Re: Kerry Collins hangs it up...
Post by: 101stDad on July 10, 2011, 08:45:51 EDT
I never really understood the hate for Kerry Collins among the Titans fans.  Granted, he wasn't the most talented QB in the league, but he played hard and was a gutty QB.  He played hurt, and actually got a lot out of what God given ability he had.  He was put in a tough position, having to try to right the Vince Young fiasco ship.  I'd hate to think how badly things might have turned out with a QB of lesser effort than what Collins gave. 

Y'all know the saying - be careful what you wish for.  You just might get it?  Titans fans might just get something less than what they are asking for. 


Title: Re: Kerry Collins hangs it up...
Post by: Black Diamond Vol on July 10, 2011, 09:22:41 EDT
If I were the coach, I'd sink or swim with Jake Locker this year.  He'll either be a wonderful surprise, or he'll put them in great position in the Andrew Luck sweepstakes.  I think Luck is the next great young NFL QB.


Title: Re: Kerry Collins hangs it up...
Post by: PirateVOL on July 10, 2011, 10:10:37 EDT
A lot of fans have that perception but I don't think that's factual at all. They will spend money and have spent it, they just haven't been great at talent evaluation lately.
Bud Adams intrference - he has been the moron screwing up the works since Houston.


Title: Re: Kerry Collins hangs it up...
Post by: ReVOLver on July 11, 2011, 05:18:18 EDT
Bud Adams intrference - he has been the moron screwing up the works since Houston.

But to say that Bud doesn't spend isn't accurate IMO.

Yes, Bud interferes and yes he's guilty of getting in the way of the people who should be making the football decisions. But he's not cheap.


Title: ReVOLver, we will just have to agree to disagree..
Post by: 73Volgrad on July 11, 2011, 10:04:38 EDT
The Titans almost always draft a player from an unknown or a directional school who is just happy to get drafted and will accept near league minimum to get to play.  Then if they develop them into great players, they refuse to resign them at a higher salary to keep below the cap.  All because the idiot owner Bud signed a head case QB from Texas who will never be an NFL caliber QB.  When and if you listen to Titan announcer you can tell Titans have per-determined salary  ranges by position that must be adhered to.  But, you are right, but it is not just lately that Titans have been poor judges of talent and character.  I still contend the cheap pay scale Bud sets determines the quality of the draft picks they select.


Title: Re: ReVOLver, we will just have to agree to disagree..
Post by: ReVOLver on July 11, 2011, 10:21:06 EDT
The Titans almost always draft a player from an unknown or a directional school who is just happy to get drafted and will accept near league minimum to get to play.  Then if they develop them into great players, they refuse to resign them at a higher salary to keep below the cap.  All because the idiot owner Bud signed a head case QB from Texas who will never be an NFL caliber QB.  When and if you listen to Titan announcer you can tell Titans have per-determined salary  ranges by position that must be adhered to.  But, you are right, but it is not just lately that Titans have been poor judges of talent and character.  I still contend the cheap pay scale Bud sets determines the quality of the draft picks they select.

I just don't agree. I think drafting Vince, Pacman, Andre Woolfolk, et al were all bad moves, but I don't think think it has anything to do with money. They have tried hard to stay out of the salary cap jail that Floyd Reese put them in when they overpaid McNair and Eddie George, but other teams are winning with the philosophy of not overpaying for older players because other teams draft better.

As always, JMHO.